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Thought Grey Imprint was £1500, will have to check. One was sold for £2k not do long ago.

Put Oscar Perry on Andy Dyson's list, one before last. Without checking (not got list with me but it is on here) I think it was £900 and it went quickly. Rare record.

Lorenzo, you should buy this book... The In Crowd: The Story of the Northern and Rare Soul Scene by Mike Ritson (Author), Stuart Russell (Author) It will give you a very good insight into the history of Northern Soul up to the end of Wigan Casino I think, 1981. Another (and cheaper option) is The Story of Northern Soul by Dave Nowell. He is a member as well and was selling this for about 7 quid not so long ago.

he does as Mace says and I've a lot of time for Callum as well. Clearly loves the music and gets about.

Sorry Bob but it doesn't work like that here. The youngsters that attend clubs such as I've mentioned simply do not travel, a few do but by and large they don't. They have no wish to leave their own particular area. As said most that attend are old enough to be some of the kids grand-parents and no matter how funky, hip or cool its not cool enough. Added to that some of the venues are in working men's clubs, and halls that have seen better days, some venues are dumps that I've no wish to attend let alone some trendy 20 year old. Their venues are not offering anything that isn't out there across the country. It is nothing to do with the music being hip or cool or somewhere having a buzz. Plenty of places play music that is fresh, imaginative and some of the djs have records others can only dream about but they struggle to attract paying customers.

Wigan nor Stafford your typical major city like Manchester? What I'm saying is would places like the Beat Boutique in Manchester or Souled Out in Newcastle work in a much smaller town with out a large student/youth population. Would the Beat Boutique clientele travel to the middle of nowhere or some run down working mens club in some back water town or village like we used to do and still do in many cases. I accept some youngsters are into the music just like we are but others see it as a more social thing with the added bonus of some good music who are probably not into this for the long term?

What is the average attendance? I've said it before youngsters are few and far between on this scene and where there are a decent younger crowd they are city based, often with university etc. take the one in Manchester, packed but hardly any travel to your all-nighters around the country, infact not many travel outside Manchester except to maybe another Mod type club. I see Callum about and a few others but not too many. As for youth attracting youth, does that mean get rid of older More experienced Dj's for the sake of a younger one? there are plenty of more experienced Dj's offering fresh and imaginative playlists and to be brutally honest not many younger Dj's have anything to offer that isn't already on offer from more experienced Dj's with a wealth of knowledge and experience to fall back on. That's not to say youth shouldn't be given a chance to shine, they should be given a chance and Lifeline (as well as others) has given the likes of the beat boutique lads (just one turned up) the chance, Paul did a great set too. Radcliffe regularly has younger lads behind the deck. I disagree with Bob, youngsters don't want to mix with people old enough to be there grand parents wearing clothes from the 70's, it's just not cool. Many soul nights the majority are the wrong side of 40 or 50, some over 60. These can't go on for ever, sooner or later they will once again leave this scene and it will be underground with a small hardcore once again. The scene as we know it is slowly dying (attendances are suffering up and down the country even now), it wil take some years but very few youngsters are coming through to replace an ageing scene.

Here you go mate..... https://www64.zippyshare.com/v/73364592/file.html%3Cbr%20/%3E On th iPod and essential listening tomorrow along with Cliff's show.

There has been two scenes for years Bob, right back to the 70's so nothing has really changed since then,we've just got older and less inclined to travel, the high cost of travelling is also another factor why some no longer want to travel. By and large the vast majority of the scene (well two scenes) have no interest as you rightly point out in progressing musically. They simply want a night out with friends and a taxi home. They don't really care what the music is as long as it doesn't detract from their comfort zone. They don't seem to care that they heard the DJ the week before playing the same records. It's like going to the same night club for 30 odd years and listening to the same top 40! Others do care about what they hear. They still want a good night out with some laughs (contrary to what some think they don't stand there stroking their chins all night) but they wish to hear something a bit more stimulating, something they haven't heard before or for some time. They want to hear a DJ with some imagination putting together a thoughtful set. But they are in a minority. The scene is dying a slow painful death. If no one comes over to the progressive side, or the events who program DJ's with imagination, featuring unknown, semi knowns and lesser payed material along side quality oldies then not too far down the line when all the older retro soulies have disappeared there will be little of a social scene left. So in reality even though the two scenes are poles apart one does have an effect on the other.

Bob's question now has a topic of it's own as it is more relevant IMO to discuss his question in its own right, the topic can be found here...

Ok I've split the topic and Bob's question now has a topic all of it's own.

Not at all, just Bob's question and the subsequent answers have a topic of its own.

Wasn't Tommy and the Derby's was it, Ordinary Girl is featured a fair bit in the lyrics, was covered up as that.

It might be best if I split all the UK scene posts into another topic?

It doesn't do any harm but there must be 100's of oldies/newies topics. I'm at a loss to see how a listing on ebay turned into another topic discussing the merits of oldies and newies and what people get unto in their social life? This topic hasn't gone a "little off topic", its way off. No one has stopped you or anyone else starting a topic, I certainly haven't.

Have you counted how many odd weekenders there are? I counted over thirty not so long ago for this year. How do we get from talking about a record collection on ebay to another oldies newies topic?

Bit late on this one, just downloaded Cliff, thats my monday morning listening sorted.

nice one Bob, just goes to show that it is a never ending job this collecting lark and no matter what we think we know there is always more.

Yeah it did get a bit messy Steve. Think I saw one of these listed for a grand not so long ago.

didn't see this topic and started one, will merge the two.

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I thought I said I liked it...off to wash me lug oles out.

The quicker one. Forget who is on lead for which.