Chalky

usually the skinny ones who dance with no shirt these days, there's not many though. Still plenty in vests.

some still do..when they spin you get covered in there sweat.....yuk

I think 99% know what they are listening to and who plays what. Why this argument keeps arising I don't know because it is practically irrelevant in the real world. As said most don't care when at a soul night and by and large nighter DJ's stick to the rule, most promoters know what they are getting with most DJ's. Some venues do play boots though and are quite happy to do so without advertising the fact.

I can see your logic with the instrumental but it is still a bootleg as it was an unauthorised release, done without the necessary licensing or any monies going to the owner of the track. Why play an instrumental though when there's a better vocal, it's inferior. Maybe CD players should be installed in this day and age, save the cost of a carver.

Bob, I hope you realise the trouble this is gonna cause with yet another genre to add to the Northern Soul Family........Spacey Detroit night coming your way soon!!

It's listed in both R&B Indies and Soul Harmony Singles

Think someone got a bargain at £47.

what happens if you pay your money expecting to hear originals? You then get a DJ playing boots? Does the promoter reimburse monies if asked? The promoters should state their stance then punters can make the choice then, solves all the arguing doesn't it. Why though does a promoter feel the need to book a DJ who plays boots? This is something I can't understand. There are 100's out here with the real deal so no need what so ever to go down the path of boots even at local soul nights. Many happy to DJ for very little by the way of a fee.

just didn't feel like we were very welcome there, wasn't just me who felt that way, it was all in our little group and one was the main guest DJ. No big deal, one venue out of 1000's.

Not sure Pete, just going by the comments, can't remember if I've ever seen that one??

Quickly scanning the comments Dave himself responds in the comments on the Sweets video. The dancers are Dave himself, Sandy, Johhny Burke, Julie Bebb & Sue Hollis.

the comments on YT say most of the footage was from a documentary called The Sound Of¯»¿ The Crowd.

There has been more than the one listed in popsike on ebay. Seen a few over the years.

Omnibus was the program. Details are in the comments.

The one where he has no shirt on and three lasses is a granada show I think. If you look for the Sweets track on Youtube the goo0d one by Bigcityrob or something like that all the info is in the comments.

I think if Kev Roberts thought a monthly Kings Hall would work he would have done it by now. Two saying s come to m ind, less is better and quality not quantity. Kings Hall is fantastic as an oldies all-nighter. I wish every all-nighter had the same capacity and atmosphere.

But the Sweets is still a bootleg, no one gained financially except the bootlegger. I can't see the point doing a cut from an LP, just take the LP with you. Why spend £20 on a cut when you can spend that elsewhere.

Has anyone said it is wrong to put on a local soul night? I don't remember reading that bit. The biggest complaint locally would appear to be the number and in some cases the quality (whatever the policy). I've already said there are two venues just a few miles apart on this weekend and another not too far up the road....does that make sense to you? Sure as hell doesn't to me.

The only place I've ever honestly felt unwelcome was at an oldies venue.

Peggy, don't think Kings Hall is monthly and many who attend there plan for it and don't even attend other allnighters.

Unissued material has been played off an emi disc carver or whatever you want to call it for decades, even by those at the top of the dj tree. If you have permission and the only original source is tape what is wrong with that? We would never have heard some fantastic recordings if followed what some say.

If it's unissued get it cut. If a promoter wants to allow the use of bootlegs then he or she should say so then people can make up their own mind whether to attend or not.......simple really.

shouldn't this topic be in events?

Can we take the personal stuff to PM's or simply ignore?

When I was 18 soul nights and all-nighters catered for what I wanted. All the DJ's were allowed to use imagination, all sought the next new big record. You went to a nighter but you went to a local soul night before hand. Sure there was still the politics, they've always been there regardless what people think. It still does cater for what I want but on a lot smaller scale, most all-nighters don't have anything new and there is a ridiculous amount of promoters and promotions clashing. As I said in an earlier post 21 venues all local to me, some towns/cities with several events in one weekend some just a few miles apart on the same night. Today time, family, work, money, all have an influence in what we do at the weekend and we want to utilise all of those the best way we can yet all the clashing is having an adverse affect on our nights out. Sure there are venues that cater for everyone but they could be and should be so much better, especially locally. Grumbling and moaning has always been there too, the same argument we have now have always been there too, oldies vs. newies etc. Back in the day you didn't have an outlet at your finger tips to express your feelings and opinions like you have now with soul source. You had to send a letter to one of the few magazines running and by the time it was printed the argument was probably irrelevant by then......that is why you seem to get more grumbling and moaning but in reality nothing has changed just the method.