Chalky

Its from around 1990

It’s you taking it way off topic again.

The Professionals only had the one track so a Steve Mancha track was used in the flip. That’s from Calloway himself as well. I thought this was well known?

Not sure what Ray Avery has to do with it either, as you say he wasn’t selling rare soul

Not sure what this has to do with rarity

No presumption about it, it is Mancha.

Carstairs is a truly crazy price. The market is fcuked, i don’t care how much it is hyped, how worldwide it is, £150 just a few years ago, £300 just a couple of months ago. To quadruple in a matter of months just shows the lack of common sense in some buyers.

I didn’t say that but It wasn’t known as Northern Soul then. But it wasn’t the northern scene it would become a few years later with plenty of brit pop R&B and mod in the mix. I have read many accounts of the arguments about the musical direction back then.

Bugger….working 🤨

I would also say from accounts I’ve read the mid 60s wasn’t the Northern scene either. The split you read aboutcoming later in the 60s. Pretty obvious that any burgeoning scene the main focus wouldn’t be the DJs the records the collecting, rather just going out and having a good time in one’s youth. I doubt any in the mid 60s thought what they were doing would grow into the monster it would in the 70s.

There are also written accounts of the disputes between traditional wheel goers, those who preferred the more mod, Brit R&B, club soul etc and those moving towards the more northern sounds and imports.

I did say in another post by the time imports were what everyone was chasing and by the time of the Torch and certainly by the time of the the Catacombs, VaVas, Mecca, Wigan.

But even Landslide was exclusive and rare at one time, just like the Melli Souls and the Dj and the track talked about. Probably dropped when other copies turned up? The Mello Souls has always been rare and expensive and will remain so but it is a record we all travelled to hear Butch spin, along with the rest of his set, the same for Guy, Keb, Rob Marriott etc etc. I agree about the majority not having the desire to Dj but that didn’t make the scene any less elitist.

To say punters weren't bothered isn't strictly true. Most I know travelled to hear what they couldn't hear anywhere else, they followed Djs, they followed the music. They might not have been bothered about what the records costs but they knew they were rare and they knew know one else could play them. The scene has always been centred around rare records, exclusive Dj plays, its always been elitist, its always had those above others but it has always been inclusive despite cliques.

Exclusivity and rarity often went hand in hand. You only had to look at venues advertising their nights. As far back as the mid 70s you would see ads for the likes of the Mecca listing their exclusives that you couldn't hear anywhere else, same for Wigan. Often they were rare at least fore a period of time. Djs got a booking for their exclusives, they still do to a certain extent but more often than not now it is how much the Dj has spent. I didn't travel all over the country to hear records I could hear in the local soul night. I wanted the rarities, exclusives, unknowns.

It's never been straight forward. Generally though it's always been about oneupmanship (in a friendly way)and who has what the rest don't. There was a time anything cheap and available would be ignored totally. As soon as other copies turned up it would be dropped, as soon as something booted it would be dropped. It's not the case anymore as there is nothing new, it is now all about how much a record costs and generally the most expensive aren't the rarest.

Hasn't it always ben about rarity and a Dj having records others didn't, certainly since the Torch from what I can see or the rise of imports rather than UK releases.

Kim in 81 is a bloke

Yep trying to get together a list of all finalists.....some confusion.

Another topic here. Was there competition in between the anniversaries? Suggestion in this topic you won mid year Janie 1975?

Stoke provides the second guest in tow weeks with the return two the studio of Tim Ashibende. Not many can match Tim's contribution to the scene or indeed his knowledge. Tune in for a cracking show.

As I said Caesar won in 1974. Top of the Pops was January 1975.

Got the CD back when it was released, some great tracks on it

First one (1974) was won by Steve Caesar with Kim (Gethro's GF) second and Gethro third. Steve has posted a photo elsewhere in the past receiving his £50 prize money with Kim and Gethro to his right.

I'm not saying it never got plays, just never any sustained. It was more a tape swapper sound for me. I love there record though.