Chalky

It s bloody cheap IMHO. The soul scene have been a bunch of tight gits for years Tenner for an allnighter and still some moan. You wouldn't get a night out in a club for ten hours for a pound an hour. Bet it would cost double that in a top dance club? The cost to the average punter has hardly gone up for years, especially soul nights, we seem to want everything on the cheap. Just had a google, Ministry Of Sound, £13 10.30 till 6.30 the cheapest, many other nights at £15 and £20. Would a soulie pay £20 for an allnighter?

not being funny either Joan, I don't know one promoter who runs a venue to make a loss....whether they are a business or not. I don't see any of these who are happy to simply cover costs donate all the profits to charity. Like I said this topic after just a few posts was beginning to turn into a slag off Kev Roberts topic......don't think we done that one before There's plenty on here and on the wider scene who make a living out of the soul scene, I don't see them get a constant slagging off!

I understand Bob asked a general question and nothing against that but it was IMO heading to a slagging off of one promoter with some of the comments made, with comments like one does it to make loadsa money and inferring that's all he does it for and that the other does it to simply cover their costs, I suppose any profit will go to charity?

When it simply becomes a medium for slagging off a promoter all the time. What I said was my own personal opinion, nothing to do with being a moderator. The topic was after just a few posts turning into a slagging off of one promoter and hailing the others as saviours of the peoples scene, that to me isn't a discussion.

that's not the label on the record. plenty of US acetates such as RCA that look like above too. That track on the you tube clip was "stolen" at the rocket when Gavin taped the sets of the DJs without permission.

do we have to turn this into another slagging off of certain promoters. People have choice, go or stay away. Both are popular events and no one knows what the overheads are at either.

at the end of the day peoples time is precious and it does help if people know fully what they are opening.

Not aimed at you Mark, almost everyone does it.

Thanks for the TD sound-files Seb, will have a listen when I get home.

Can I ask again that when you ask for a value or values you mention the record in question in the actual post (this bit). Most of you are simply putting the record in the Topic Description box only and if a user is using a mobile phone then you can't see the Topic Description Box, well I can't on the iphone. Been a couple today I didn't know what you were talking about until I managed to get on the laptop! The same can be said for wants requests in the wants section.

What is the Blue Rock acetate Butch been playing last few years?

I take it this never saw the light of day on a 45?

4005 - Big Tim & The Empires - Cheaters Never Get Anywhere / My Girl's Prettier Than Your Girl Does this one exist? If so anyone ever seen one? I always thought it was never issued?

people will make a choice, they will go where there mates go, go to the one more local maybe, but its not always the scene that wins at the end of the day.

maybe

it will be the scene that eventually gives. If people keep going out to half full venues then they will eventually find something else to do. Take 50 or 60 from a major all-nighter and it shows, add those missing to those stood outside then the place can look empty. With a hardcore of around 300 all-nighter goers what is the point in splitting the crowd? As you say some promoters show no respect whatsoever!! They care little for anything other than what they do.

you can get some from Vinyl carvers but if I remember rightly they are a bit smaller than a normal label.

but some promoters seem hell bent on ruining the nighter scene with no thought put into dates they choose!

Andy Dyson has one, if I remember rightly it has the Mike Terry credit on the label. Dysonsoul@aol.com

Sad news, sympathies and condolences to his family and friends. Don't really know him personally but from the description I think I know who you mean. Anyone got a photo?

Brilliant stuff Bob. You do a fantastic job seeking out the artists we love and getting their stories told. Keep 'em coming.

IGL the other label.

Old Gary Rushbrook spin.

Butch's Entertainers IV cover up and his fantastic Gil Blanding cover up, I'll cry too I think he's called it, been playing it about three months.