Chalky

are there any other letters used on any releases other than "F"? Off top of me head think it's Okeh or something like that use a letter to tell which take was used.....A = first take, B = second take etc.

125 Turn Of The Century - Money Can't/A Man In Love 126 Dee Edwards - Why Can't There Be Love/Say It Again With Feeling 127 ? 128 Dee Edwards - Why Can't There Be Love/Say It Again With Feeling 130 Third Dimension - If My Heart Was An Open Book/Important Things (instrumental) 131 Stix & Stoned - Rouge Plant Blues/? 152 Steppers - Come On And Get It/What The Problem Is 153 Albert Jones - Reflections/The Old Man 162 Final Decisions - Keep On Walking/The Hour Of Your Need ??? Albert Jones - Reflections/Up To The Sun above taken from R&B Indies, any additions??? Three label designs by the looks of it.125 to 130 (BUMP SHOP), then 131 to 153 (Automobile design) and then the last two (BUMPSHOP).

The last three I've seen sold, dealer to buyer have been more like £500. Two of those were sold for that price, the other had that on the sleeve but a deal may have been done. I think the cheapest I've seen it since it rose in popularity has been £350.

There is a great website called don't forget the motor city which is full of information regarding Motown recordings..... I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Norman Whitfield-Barrett Strong) publ. Jobete Bobby Taylor; rec 15-Dec-67 ; produced by Norman Whitfield Sep-68; LP (S): Gordy GS930 Bobby Taylor And the Vancouvers Sep-68; LP (M): Gordy G930 Bobby Taylor And the Vancouvers [DJ copies only] 01-May-06; CD (S): Motown 983 851 2 The Motown Anthology [ UK ] Gladys Knight & The Pips; rec 17-Jun-67 ; [studio] ; produced by Norman Whitfield 28-Sep-67; 45 (M): Soul S 35039 A [1st pressing] 28-Sep-67; 45 (M): Soul S 35039 A [2nd pressing] [alt mix] Sep-67; LP (M): Soul S706 Everybody Needs Love Sep-67; LP (S): Soul SS706 Everybody Needs Love Apr-69; LP (S): Motown MS684 A Collection Of 16 Original Big Hits Vol. 10 Mar-70; LP: Soul SS723 Greatest Hits Mar-71; LP (S): Motown MS730 The Motown Story - The First Decade Volume 4 13-Apr-92; CD (S): Motown MOTD 5126 Everybody Needs Love 03-Nov-92; CD (M): Motown 37463 6312 2 Hitsville USA The Motown Singles Collection 1959-1971 21-Mar-95; CD: Motown 31453 0483 The Best Of Gladys Knight & The Pips - The Anthology Series 07-Oct-97; CD (M): Motown 530 826 2 Ultimate Collection 1997; CD (S): Britannia 530 709 The Happening [ UK ] 1997; CD (M): DPSM 5240 The Complete Motown Anthology Vol 4 02-Nov-98; CD (S): Spectrum 554 145 2 Motown Chartbusters Volume 2 [ UK ] Jul-00; CD (S): Spectrum 544 313 2 The Motown Years [ UK ] 16-Jul-01; CD (M): Spectrum 544 545 2 Mod Fave Raves Volume 1 [ UK ] 23-Sep-03; CD (S): Motown B000101602 The Motown Story Volume 1: The 1960s 14-Sep-04; CD (S): Singing Machine G8857 Motown Classics - I Heard It Through The Grapevine Vol. 7 14-Sep-04; CD (S): Singing Machine G8857 Motown Classics - I Heard It Through The Grapevine Vol. 7 [band track] 03-Aug-05; CD (S): Shout B0004999-02 The Motown Box 06-Nov-06; CD (S): Motown 984 194 3 Everybody Needs Love / Feelin' Bluesy [ UK ] 25-May-07; CD (M): Hip O Select B0008993-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 7 1967 [alt mix] 25-May-07; CD (M): Hip O Select B0008993-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 7 1967 Gladys Knight & The Pips ; [live] Jul-69; LP (S): Motown MS688 Motortown Revue Live 26-Aug-05; CD (S): Hip O Select B0003623-02 Recorded Live - The Motortown Revue Collection Gladys Knight & The Pips ; [live] Oct-70; LP (S): Soul SS730 All In A Knight's Work - Live! Marvin Gaye; rec 10-Apr-67 ; produced by Norman Whitfield 26-Aug-68; LP (S): Tamla TS285 In The Groove 26-Aug-68; LP (M): Tamla TM285 In The Groove [DJ copies only] 30-Nov-68; 45 (M): Tamla T 54176 A Sep-70; LP (S): Tamla TS300 Super Hits Mar-71; LP (S): Motown MS731 The Motown Story - The First Decade Volume 5 Mar-86; LP (S): Motown 6172 Motown Remembers Marvin Gaye [with added overdubs] 14-Sep-90; CD (M): Motown MOTD4 6311 The Marvin Gaye Collection 03-Nov-92; CD (M): Motown 37463 6312 2 Hitsville USA The Motown Singles Collection 1959-1971 23-Aug-94; CD (S): Motown 31453 0355-2 The Norman Whitfield Sessions 25-Apr-95; CD (M): Motown 31453 0492-2 The Master 1961-1984 13-Jun-95; CD: Motown 31453 0507-2 Motown Year By Year / The Sound Of Young America 1968 1997; CD (M): DPSM 5942 The Complete Motown Anthology Vol 6 1997; CD (S): Britannia 530 709 The Happening [ UK ] 02-Nov-98; CD (S): Spectrum 554 146 2 Motown Chartbusters Volume 3 [ UK ] 02-Aug-99; CD: Spectrum 530 793 2 I Heard It Through The Grapevine [ UK ] 26-Feb-01; CD (S): Motown 013 185 2 Moods Of Marvin Gaye / In The Groove [ UK ] 23-Sep-03; CD (S): Motown B000101602 The Motown Story Volume 1: The 1960s 11-May-04; CD (S): Motown 066 365-2 Standing In The Shadows of Motown - De Luxe [band track only] 14-Sep-04; CD (S): Singing Machine G8857 Motown Classics - I Heard It Through The Grapevine Vol. 7 [band track] 14-Sep-04; CD (S): Singing Machine G8857 Motown Classics - I Heard It Through The Grapevine Vol. 7 03-Aug-05; CD (S): Shout B0004999-02 The Motown Box [extended soundtrack version] 03-Oct-07; CD (M): Motown 174 317 7 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 8 1968 Sounds Nice Sep-70; LP: Rare Earth RS512 Love At First Sight The Miracles; rec 16-Aug-66 ; produced by Norman Whitfield 22-Sep-98; CD (M): Motown 530 960 2 Motown Sings Motown Treasures 12-Jan-05; CD: Hip O Select B0003619-02 Motown Sings Motown Treasures The Miracles ; produced by Norman Whitfield 26-Aug-68; LP (M): Tamla TM290 Special Occasion 26-Aug-68; LP (S): Tamla TS290 Special Occasion Mar-97; CD (S): Polygram 530 774 2 Master Series [ UK ] 07-May-01; CD (S): Motown 013 183 2 Make It Happen / Special Occasion [ UK ] The Rustix; rec 02-Jul-69 ; produced by R. Dean Taylor Aug-69; LP: Rare Earth RS508 Bedlam The Temptations; rec 18-Dec-68 ; [lead - Dennis Edwards] ; produced by Norman Whitfield 17-Feb-69; LP (S): Gordy GS939 Cloud Nine 23-Oct-00; CD: Spectrum 544 383 2 From 1966-1969 [ UK ] The Undisputed Truth ; produced by Norman Whitfield ; arranged by Dave Van DePitte Jul-71; LP (S): Gordy GS955 The Undisputed Truth This Old Heart Of Mine (Is Weak For You) (Brian Holland-Lamont Dozier-Edward Holland Jr-Sylvia Moy) publ. Jobete Tammi Terrell; rec 15-Sep-67 ; produced by Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier 06-Dec-68; 45 (M): Motown M 1138 A Jan-69; LP (M): Motown MS652 Irresistible Feb-72; LP (S): Tamla Motown STML11200 Motown Memories (16 non-stop Tamla hits) [uK] Jul-97; CD (S): Debutante 530 814 2 This Is Northern Soul! Volume 2 [uK] 1997; CD (S): Britannia 530 710 Changing Times [uK] 16-Jul-01; CD (S): Spectrum 544 491 2 Essential Collection [uK] 03-May-05; CD: Motown 067 024 2 This Is Northern Soul! The Motown Sound Volume 1 [uK] 03-Oct-07; CD (M): Motown 174 317 7 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 8 1968 The Isley Brothers; rec 01-Dec-65 ; produced by Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier 28-Jan-66; 45 (M): Tamla T 54128 A [2nd pressing] 28-Jan-66; 45 (M): Tamla T 54128 A [1st pressing] May-66; LP (S): Tamla TS269 This Old Heart Of Mine May-66; LP (M): Tamla TM269 This Old Heart Of Mine Jan-67; LP (S): Motown MS655 A Collection Of 16 Original Big Hits Vol. 6 Jan-67; LP (M): Motown M655 A Collection Of 16 Original Big Hits Vol. 6 Apr-69; LP (S): Tamla TS287 Doin' Their Thing Oct-70; LP (E): Starline SRS5043 Isley Brothers Greatest Hits Oct-70; LP (S): Motown MS715 Motown Chartbusters Volume 2 26-Feb-91; CD (M): Motown MOTD 5483 Greatest Hits And Rare Classics 03-Nov-92; CD (M): Motown 37463 6312 2 Hitsville USA The Motown Singles Collection 1959-1971 22-Jul-96; CD (S): Spectrum 552 122 2 Early Classics [uK] 1997; CD (S): Britannia 530 704 Movin' On Up [uK] 1997; CD (M): DPSM 5238 The Complete Motown Anthology Vol 2 02-Nov-98; CD (S): Spectrum 554 146 2 Motown Chartbusters Volume 3 [ UK ] 17-Jul-00; CD (S): Spectrum 544 280 2 Tamla Motown Big Hits And Hard To Find Classics Volume 3 [ UK ] Jan-01; CD (S): Singing Machine G8855 Motown Classics - Let's Get It On Vol. 5 [band track] Jan-01; CD (S): Singing Machine G8855 Motown Classics - Let's Get It On Vol. 5 11-Nov-02; CD (S): Motown 017 190 This Old Heart Of Mine / Soul On The Rocks [ UK ] 03-Aug-05; CD (S): Shout B0004999-02 The Motown Box [alternate stereo mix] 24-Nov-06; CD (M): Hip O Select B0007872-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 6 1966 24-Nov-06; CD (M): Hip O Select B0007872-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 6 1966 [alt mix] The Supremes; rec 13-May-66 ; [ L.A.] ; produced by Hal Davis, Marc Gordon Aug-66; LP (S): Motown MS649 Supremes A Go-Go Aug-66; LP (M): Motown M649 Supremes A Go-Go Sep-85; LP: Motown 5371 Sing Motown 23-Oct-00; CD (S): Motown 159 508 2 Love Child / Supremes A' Go-Go [ UK ] 11-Dec-01; CD (M): Motown 016 409-2 Anthology

Suspicion has to be up there

The scene doesn't need a weekly all-nighter at the same venue. The scene already has several well run all-nighters that more or less cater for everyone. I also doubt you would get 1500 bodies into an all-night venue every week. The hard core all-nighter crowd is probably 3/400.

what are you interested in? the vast majority of the stock on the site are generally unplayed. The rarer stuff in picks and predictions for example are graded. You can always get in touch via the website to Andy directly and he will be more than happy to help you with any queries you have. Alternatively drop Andy an e-mail directly @ Dysonsoul@aol.com

some info HERE about one of the Charades group.

Try Andy Dyson, I'm sure he did have one, whether or not still there I don't know. Dysonsoul@aol.com

There are four on popsike from July to October last year, $655, $708, $765 and $1085. At todays conversion rate that would make it approx £430 to £712. There was loads of copies about a while back and was very indemand.

I'd forgotten all about that Benji......

Don't think there is a boot of Johnnie, wouldn't surprise me if someone has booted the Kent cd version that was credited to Audrey but in fact more than likely the writer Sharon McMahon.

I doubt it would make my top 500 to be honest. Great as a newie back in the late 70's no doubt but it's tiresome now, so overplayed. If it wasn't for the fact it is so rare and all the hype etc surrounding it I doubt DJ's would give it a second look now.

don't think I've seen too much of a difference when seen listed for set sale or in a record box.

1978 was when it was first played wasn't it?

You haven't been looking hard enough. It is as rare as hens teeth Tony granted but I promise you a mate of mine has had one maybe two off e-bay. I distinctly remember the first about 3 years ago cause I'd just saved all the relevant places to look on e-bay in his bookmarks, that night one of the first he found was Paul Kelly. I think he has had another since plus the one to another buyer on just recently.

Lp track..... Who You Gonna Run To (William Robinson) publ. Jobete Brenda Holloway ; produced by Hal Davis, Marc Gordon 03-Jun-02; CD (M): UMO 544 619 2 A Cellarful Of Motown [ UK ] Chuck Jackson ; produced by Smokey Robinson, Terry Johnson [unreleased]; 45 (M): V.I.P. 25067F A 10-Oct-05; CD: Motown 983 293 1 The Motown Anthology [ UK ] Mickey McCullers; rec 05-Feb-64 ; produced by Smokey Robinson 07-Oct-64; 45 (M): V.I.P. 25009 A 24-Feb-06; CD (M): Hip O Select B0005946-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 4 1964 The Temptations; rec 14-Jan-65 ; [lead - Paul Williams] ; produced by Smokey Robinson 15-Jun-66; LP (S): Gordy GS918 Gettin' Ready 15-Jun-66; LP (M): Gordy G918 Gettin' Ready 20-Sep-94; CD (M): Motown 31453 0338-2 Emperors Of Soul 18-May-99; CD (S): Motown 31454 9514 2 Gettin' Ready "Don't Forget The Motor City"

I know

The Upset has been on a couple of times, my mate got one off there two or three years ago.

Whats the point? Most are now dead, others probably too old to travel now and they might not be able to play like they could. It would be like seeing the four tops with just one of the tops, disappopinting

Any chance of some current plays from the up coming DJ's, might get them some work if promoters knew what they played. Many promoters won't give someone a set on word of mouth or some recommendation from their mates. Do they have something to offer that isn't there already???? Lifeline always on the lookout for up coming DJ's with something to offer.

several documentaries about Motown on radio 2, some have been aired some to come. https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/documentaries/motown_index.shtml

I can see the Turbines on Cenco as a buy it now, can't see a Fred and the Turbines??

Dunno if already mentioned as I haven't read all posts but I don't know if anyone listens to radio 5 live but about 3.00pm this afternoon Simon Mayo did a 50 years of motown bit, Martha Reeves, Richard Street and others on the show. Missed most as I was getting loaded at the time Heard Simon talk to Dennis Coffey on the phone mind.

I thought it was cheap compared to the one priced $1899 on another site Hope you find one Pete. If you find two at a reasonable price giz a shout