Chalky

There's been at least two copies advertised for sale on here recently for £500, seen a couple out and about too for more or less the same. Great record!!!

The Parliaments we are talking ab out is This Is My Rainy Day. I listed Cry No More few months ago on here on one of Andy Dysons lists I did. Along with Third Soul Trio on the same label.

these should keep you going... Singles Chess 1625: "Billy's Blues" / "Billy's Blues" (3/1956, with Bo Diddley & His band) Okeh 4-7095: "Baby, You're My Only Love" / "Billy's Heartache" (1957 with Bo Diddley) Chess 1820: "Reap What You Sow" / "Fat Boy" (1962) Chess 1835: "True Fine Lovin'" / "Wedding Bells" (1962) Chess 1852: "Scramble" / "Oh, What Can The Matter Be" (1963) Chess 1868: "Sugar And Spice" / "Strange Feeling" (1963) Chess 1888: "Fat Boy Can Cry" / "Count Me On" (1964) Chess 1905: "Tell It Like It Is" / "My Sweet Senorita" (1964) Chess 1922: "I Do Love You" / "Keep Loving" (1965) Chess 1932: "Sitting In The Park" / "Once Again" (1965) Chess 1941: "How Nice It Is" / "No Girl" (1965) Chess 1948: "Because I Love You" / "Mountain Of Love" (1965) Chess 1960: "Love Me" / "Why Am I Lonely" (1966) Chess 1966: "Summertime" / "To Love, To Love" (1966) Chess 1978: "Secret Love" / "Look Back And Smile" (1967) Chess 1991: "Every Day I Have The Blues" / "Ol' Man River" (1967) Chess 2002: "Cross My Heart" / "Why (Do I Love You So)?" (1967) Chess 2053: "Tell Me The Truth" / "What Have I Done?" (1968) Chess 2063: "I'm In Love" / "Crazy 'Bout You, Baby" (1969) Chess 2080: "By The Time I Get To Phoenix" / "We'll Always Be Together" (1969) Albums Chess 1496: I Do Love You (1965) (Billboard #97) Chess 1499: Unbelievable (1965) (Billboard #138) Chess 1513: Billy Stewart Teaches Old Standards New Tricks (1967) Chess 1547: Remembered (1969) Sugar Hill Chess CH-8401: The Greatest Sides (1982)

no...it'd make you a daft pillock

two groups have pages I think, Collegiates or summat like and the Rejects.

Bad Girl should be in refosoul as I posted it in the not too distant past, think I posted the flip too.

Did it not too long ago...think my contribution was Green Onions

I've not looked at the Soul Harmony singles to be honest but assumed they were different due to Cabell being Virginia (?) recording.

Known Neil long time and have seen a lot of him until recently, always up for a laugh and piss take, still threatens to take Andy Dyson outside on t'cobbles Hope your health takes a turn for the better pal, thoughts are with you right now! Hope you don't stay away all together.

Spyder Turner - Don't Hold Back

there's plenty of good forgotten oldies out there, plenty that had very little exposure in the first place.

Quality to some extent will always be a factor in the price. But I've seen very rare records fetch a pittance when other records which number in the hundreds still fetch a few hundred quid, stupidity IMO. but half those buying seem to be trophy hunters rather than collectors

Couple of years Boba. Some other records have remained covered for over ten years cause no one could find another or never knew what it was. Junior McCants was covered for something like 8 years or so. Mello Souls for quite a few years.

thing is tho' no one knew it or realised that it was Butch's Masqueraders cover up.

I'd agree with you Pete Wasn't there one for sale on here not so long ago???? Great record IMHO and seems to be geting plays again.

should be £30 now

I thought I took a copy of the scan of the last one I saw for sale but can't seem to find it. There's a scan of the flip on John Ridleys site... https://www.sirshambling.com/artists/W/walter_b.htm

seen a few over the years the last one being I think £400. Would agree hard one to get. Can anyone keep up with this these days exactly but it should be the rarity that dictates the price.

It's not as rare as the price they have been going for would suggest IMHO. There are many records way over priced due to demand rather than supply.

Dunno Bob, I didn't think they were the same I thought Rainy Day was rarer than Cry No More, seen far more of the Cry No More. The price is down to the interest created by Butch and the fact that it is a big record for him also the lack of copies in circulation. Most records Butch plays others want and are willing to pay.

I agree but they still create interest which can only be good even if it is for a short space of time. does anyone know who the Parliaments are on Cabell? Doubt they will ever benifit from the record. Any royalties from a cd would probably be swallowed up in costs to the label owner etc.

I was referring to the Mel Williams demo John not Danny Harrison which I know isn't rare. I knew of just the one Mel Williamsd demo until told on Friday by someone that they'd just got one too.

quality soul is getting harder and harder to find and some collectors put a great deal of effort in to find the next biggie. Covering them up gives them a little exclusivity until they are uncovered, surely they are entitled to that for the effort they put in to keep things fresh otherwise what would the point be? Might as well just pack the Djing in and just collect. I doubt very much it would do the original artists any favours one it's uncovered either. Take the last big cover up to get uncovered...Butch's Masqueraders which turned out to be The Parliaments. What are they gonna get out of it? Sod all. The fact the record is so good and it was covered up created lots of interest in the record. Half the fun is trying to find out what they are!!

I know current cover ups that fit none of the above criteria and loads from the past that don't either.

Doesn't everyone try and get as much money as they can for the records they have for sale. What Tommy is doing isn't the first time and won' tbe the last. Seen many cover ups in sales boxes and lists. There's always a risk in buying records of more turning up, covered up or not. I bet if you had a cover up which was a big record for you you wouldn't be best pleased if some clever tw*t uncovered it on here or elsewhere.