Chalky

Thought the second one sounded familiar. The third one not bad, last one leaves a little to be desired

Pretty sure different groups... The Kittens emerged from Chicago's west side, forming around Farragut High school student 18 years old Bernice Wills and Marshall High students Thelma Mack and her cousin Laurel Ross bopth 19. Arranger/producer Johnny Pate signed the group to ABC-Paramount in 1964, as newly appointed Midwest A&R director for the label, a position created specifically for him. As the arranger for the Impressions, he and the label created a Chicago branch around 14th & Michigan to tap into the vibrant Chicago soul scene of the '60s. Their ABC Paramount singles include "I Got to Know Him" and "Lookie Lookie." Around 1968, they began recording for Chess, with "Aint No More Room," "Hey Operator," and "I've Got to Get Over You." Their other releases were "I Need Your Love Tonight" on the Don-El label and "Foolish Little Girl" on Grant.

Never really took to Wakefield Sun for years for some reason, could always take it or leave it, preferably leave it but...I'd not heard it in a long time until Guy played it Huddersfield couple of months ago and it sounded great

VG = really f*cked at excellent prices

I'm not even registering on the Riker scale Kenny, not been out this weekend and not long since got up Two nice records all the same now are you gonna say who they are Baby I'm Sorry sounds familiar.

Saw the ep the other week...it's French. Can't say for sure if I Was Fool was on it, Dropped Your Candy was. Here's a scan of French ep I've just found after a quick surf.....

Even better Temptations is Loneliness Made Me Realise It's You That I Need

there could well be Seb, but the label is the same, certain of that. We need someone with copy of each to post run out details.

here's scan of picture sleeve...

all I'm getting is a link to rapid share and not the song...if can listen might be able to help.

Couldn't really say Andy, haven't seen any real difference with price betwen the two versions. Some probably not aware of difference when selling maybe

Gottra agree Brett, vinyl is still king at venues and will be for some time IMHO. As for Lifeline Brett, there is somewhere for a laptop and the mp3 freaks..we call it the car park

Hi Andy, I don't have as large a collection as people assume. I did have a superb collection but that was sold once upon a time. Started buying again couple of years ago when I got divorced and this my second collection is coming along nicely As for the belt...I'm obviously not as passionate about soul and have to concede defeat there

Pretty sure same label and number. Here's the one with girly backing, has drum intro....

I notice they don't include Ex or Ex+ which roughly speaking would be 75% of mint value looking at how they are pricing Vg etc. Certainly doesn't work like that in the real world.

here's something I posted a while back when this subject came up, either here or on the RSF. Think it's either Record Collector or Goldmine whose guide it is..someone like that. Don't think most dealers work to this guide though Grading Records Visual or play grading? In an ideal world, every record would be played before it is graded. In the real world, the time involved makes it impractical for most dealers, and it's rare that you get a chance to hear a record before you buy, especially if it is mailorder. How to grade your records: Look at everything about a record, the playing surface, the label, the edges, the cover. Then give it a grade based on the following criteria: Mint (M): Absolutely perfect in every way, certainly never played, possibly even still sealed. Near Mint (M-): A nearly perfect record. The record should show no obvious signs of wear. A 45 RPM or EP sleeve should have no more than the most minor defects, such as almost invisible ring wear or other signs of slight handling. An LP jacket should have no creases, folds, seam splits or any other noticeable defect. The same should be true of any inserts, such as posters, lyric sleeves, etc. Very Good Plus (VG+): Generally worth 50 percent of the Near Mint value. A Very Good Plus record will show some signs that it was played and otherwise handled by a previous owner who took good care of it. Record surfaces may show some slight signs of wear and may have slight scuffs or very light scratches that don't affect one's listening experience. The label may have some ring wear or discoloration, but it should be barely noticeable. The center hole will not have been misshapen by repeated play. Picture sleeves and LP inner sleeves will have some slight ring wear, lightly turned-up corners, or a slight seam split. An LP jacket may have slight signs of wear or may be marred by a cut-out hole, indentation or corner indicating it was taken out of print and sold at a discount. Very Good (VG): Generally worth 25 percent of the Near Mint value. Many of the defects found in a VG+ record will be more pronounced in a VG disc. Surface noise will be evident upon playing, especially in soft passages and during a song's intro and fade, but will not overpower the music. Groove wear will start to be noticeable, as will light scratches (deep enough to feel with a fingernail) that will affect the sound. Labels may be marred by writing, or have tape or stickers (or their residue) attached. The same will be true of picture sleeves or LP covers. However, it will not have all of these problems at the same time, only two or three of them. Good (G) and Good Plus (G+): Generally worth 10-15 percent of the Near Mint value. A record in Good or Good Plus condition will play through without skipping. But it will have significant surface noise and scratches and visible groove wear. A sleeve or jacket will have seam splits, especially at the bottom or on the spine. Tape, writing, ring wear or other defects will start to overwhelm the object.

half dozen that have graced the player this afternoon..... Bessie Banks - I Can Make It (Without You Baby) Billy Miranda - Count Your Teardrops/Could've Had A Good Thing Going Tommy Navarro - I Cried My Life Away Jimmy Beaumont - I Never Loved Her Anyway Spyder Turner - I've Got To Get Myself Together

I agree entirely Antellects, Mello Souls, Patrinell Staton etc spring to mind as records which have in recent years gianed a wider audience....not all on boots mind Many of the records some so called big boys play are what we were listening to before the revival in the scene...just taken them ten years to get over the stuff they used to know and move on a bit. There are still 100's from the 80's that haven't been played to the returnees that maybe one day will get another airing

The point I was trying to make is the nighter scene will not survive without the collectors and dj's who seek out new records. I have nothing but admiration for the work of the cd producers, buy many of them myself as it's a great way to hear some new soul music, particularly the Kent cds. But what I was trying to say was how many are nighter material that are brand new and never been played? Helping the dance side of the scene progress? Most that is nighter material has already been played. Without the nighters this scene will quickly die IMHO. Without the vinyl much of the interest in the scene will quickly disappear. You only have to read Soul Source to see how much of the content is related to vinyl, you only have to look in sales and wants to see the interest and you only have to look at ebay, John Manship's autions and other auction sites to see the vast interest and money that changes hand.

So you can't be getting on in years or be a little older and be open minded

Truce...didn't know we was fighting so no truce to declare IMO. I basically believe you have no real idea of where the new records come from in the first place. It's collectors seeking them out. I also had e-mails from artist thanking me for keeping their music alive by playing it out at venues after they've seen my playlists, I know others have too. Many others are also in constant touch with the artists and some are even great friends with them.

Maybe it is crap to some, but it's to my ears that my collection matters, after all I buy them for my benefit. Sour grapes. No sour grapes here, done more than my fair share me thinks to promote Northern Soul, here and elsewhere. I done more than my fair share to help educate others to this wonderful music and will continue to do so for as long as I have something to offer or until I'm told to go away And I never boast, not in my nature. And I've no beef with you whatsoever just with some of the comments you made. And as for trying to justify my "over priced collection"....laughable comment I don't have to justify anything to anyone.

second candidate for the days most stupid comment How many records on cds, and I'm talking new discoveries, make it to be major spins on the scene? You probably do as much damage to the cd producers as anyone. Offering all their hard work free for others to download.

probably the candidate for the days most stupid comment makes you wonder why collectors bother in the first place, why promoters bother promoting progressive venues and continue pushing this scene forward. The stuff that comes out on cd is usually fom back catalogues of labels already in the public domain or owned by companies like Ace. There are many records out there from collectors that aren't on cd and probably more than likely won't be, one off's, studeo acetates etc etc. People like Ady Croasdell, Tim Brown are collectors. Ady plays many records in his sets not available on cd. Same can be said for Tim, Butch, Andy Dyson and so on.

Do you seriously think that all my collection is on the internet and will be in future? I doubt it very much. And I can promise you there are plenty and I mean plenty of quality records that aren't digitalized and more than likely won't be as well. There are also plenty that haven't been put to cd yet, many of the top collections from top DJ's are not available. Maybe I should stop sharing stuff for you to glean off for free.