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For sale: NOLAN PORTER "If I Could Only Be Sure" (UK Probe PRO 580) 1972 EX £60 SOLD Classic floor-filler on a nice UK stock copy - this copy has a "Factory Sample - Not For Sale" sticker over the Probe logo on A-side. Paypal please (as gift preferably), PM if interested...

I've been using the album versions of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-MusicMax-LOCKTAB-CARDBOARD-7-VINYL-RECORD-MAILERS-/400174015559?pt=UK_Packaging_Materials&hash=item5d2c3ae447 And think they're pretty good, couple of cardboard stiffeners, plus the mailer is cardboard too, so it's like four sheets of card thick. Bit more expensive but much, much better than the card envelopes. Plus, they're easier to re-use at the other end...

The seller is really strict with gradings. I'd say his FAIR is probably most people's VG+...

EXTRA TITLES ADDED!!! Need to clear some space on the shelves and don't have time to list these separately. So, up for grabs is a nice job lot of 40 albums - hours of listening to keep you going over the cold coming months! Most are in great condition, even VG copies won't have any nasty scratches or anything... Works out at £2.50 an album - BARGAIN! Records graded first, then cover DETROIT SPINNERS - Mighty Love (UK Atlantic 1974) EX+/EX LEON WARE - Inside Is Love (US Fabulous 1979) VG+/EX (inc. "Inside My Love") LAMONT DOZIER - Peddlin' Music On The Side (US Warners 1977) EX/VG (inc. "Going Back To My Roots) VARIOUS - Blues And Soul (UK Marble Arch 1966) VG+/VG+ (inc. Spooners Crowd "Two In The Morning") LINDA LEWIS - Woman Overboard (UK Arista 1977) EX/EX PATTI AUSTIN - End Of A Rainbow (UK CTI 1976) VG+/VG+ PATTI AUSTIN - Patti Austin (German Qwest 1984) M-/EX SYREETA - Syreeta (UK Motown 1980) EX/EX BILLY PRESTON & SYREETA (UK Motown 1981) EX/EX ARETHA FRANKLIN - Sweet Passion (US Atlantic 1977) EX/EX ARETHA FRANKLIN - Who's Zooming Who? (US Artista 1985) M-/EX ARETHA FRANKLIN - Through The Storm (German Arista 1989) M-/EX MAZE - Featuring Frankie Beverley (US Capitol 1979) VG/EX DIONNE WARWICK - Dionne (UK Arista 1979) EX/EX DIONNE WARWICK - Dionne (US Warners 1972) EX/EX GLADYS KNIGHT - Miss Gladys Knight (US Buddah 1978) EX/EX PEACHES & HERB - 2 Hot (Mexican Polydor 1979) EX/EX RAFAEL CAMERON - Cameron's In Love (US Salsoul 1981) EX/EX BEN E KING - Music Trance (US Atlantic 1979) EX/EX BEN E KING - Let Me Live In Your Life (UK Atlantic 1978) EX/EX THE IMPRESSIONS - It's About Time (US Cotillion 1976) still sealed STEVIE WONDER - Light My Fire (UK Tamla/MFP 1969) EX/VG GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS / CURTIS MAYFIELD - Claudine soundtrack (US Buddah 1974) TOM JONES - Help Yourself (UK Decca 1968) VG/VG (inc. "I Can't Break The News To Myself") THE SUPREMES - At The Copa (UK Tamla Motown 1965) VG/EX THE SUPREMES & FOUR TOPS - Dynamite (UK Tamla Motown 1971) VG/VG MAJOR LANCE - Now Arriving (US Soul 1978) EX/EX JR WALKER & THE ALL STARS - Shotgun (UK Sounds Superb 1974 - 60s tracks) EX/EX FINISHED TOUCH - Need To Know You Better (US Motown 1978) EX/EX SPINNERS - Love Trippin' (US Atlantic 1980) EX/EX (inc. "I Just Want To Fall In Love") SERGIO MENDES - Love Music (UK Bell 1973) M-/EX (inc. "Love Music") ROY AYERS - Love Fantasy (UK Urban 1980) M-/VG+ RAY CHARLES - True To Life (UK London 1977) M-/EX THE CONTOURS - Baby Hit And Run (UK MFP 1974) M-/VG+ STAPLE SINGERS - City In The Sky (UK Stax 1974) EX/VG+ BETTY WRIGHT - Soul Explosion (UK RCA 1976) EX/VG+ (Inc. "Open The Door To Your Heart") CORNELIUS BROTHERS & SISTER ROSE (US United Artists 1972) EX/EX SMOKEY ROBINSON - Smokey (UK Tamla Motown 1973) M-/EX THE THREE DEGREES - So Much Love (UK Pye 1975) ROY HAMILTON - You'll Never Walk Alone (US Epic 1955) EX/VG+ Looking for £100 for the whole lot of 40 - (there's plenty of £5-10 albums in here) and I'll half in for the cost of courier (which I'm guessing will be about £10-15 in the UK). Paypal preferred - PM if interested, thanks for looking!

Eh? How is £45 not a lot of money? It's only on here that people say things like "oh, that's a nice cheapie, you can pick it up for about £50..." Like spending £50 is just like loose change or something. I've ordered a copy of this box set and am dreading it arriving incomplete or tracks jumping etc. I don't think paying £45 for a faulty product is something people should have to put up with, no matter what you're buying. Rant over!

Sorry I can't add too much, picked this up about ten years ago since I collect funk. But, something I found interesting is it shares a similar label design to Andrew Brown "You Made Me Suffer" which is on Brave, Sugar is on Extremely Brave. Checking the scans, both records have catalogue numbers starting BOS. So there's a connection there. https://www.popsike.com/FUNK45SuGaRTAKINCARE-OF-YOUR-MAIN-MANLISTEN/130063982391.html https://www.popsike.com/Funk-45-ANDREW-BROWN-You-Made-Me-Suffer-on-Brave/260540419482.html

Looking for: The Ambassadors "Ain't Got The Love Of One Girl On My Mind" (Arctic) BUT the re-issue, with Ambassadors Theme on the flipside. This is likely a bootleg, so I'm sure someone will have had an attack of guilt and want relieved of it... Any help please PM me - thanking you in advance...

I always used AuctionSniper, but think the 1% fee seems a bit steep looking at the competition. Not that I ever win anything!

That's something I hadn't actually considered NOT that I'm suggesting it's happened here. But if you wanted to bootleg this record, and it costs, say, £500 to press 500 - it would make more financial sense to auction ONE and sell it for £4,000 odd (and bin the remaining 499 copies) than it would to sell the 500 copies at a fiver a pop...

It was "placed there" two years ago? In the collection of a dead person? Well, that seems to have backfired a bit, then... Surely we have all bought unplayed store stock 45s which look as new as the day they were pressed 40 years ago? Mr Dobson or Mr Manship, in the name of all that is rare, PLEASE PUT US ALL OUT OF OUR COLLECTIVE MISERY!!! At least before this thread reaches 400 posts...

Just to save everyone else the hassle of looking it up, the 45 in question is "Ramblin' Rose". Don't say I'm not a kind, considerate fellow...

I think people on here would be keen to hear how you acquired this record... Did you say earlier that this copy was found two years ago? Which makes the "other" copy recently found mentioned in this thread just a co-incidence. I love the idea that bollock-rare northern soul singles can be found here in the uk in the unlikeliest places... I always assume you need to be in the US to find the rare stuff. Or have very deep pockets...

Sent you a PM about the Justine 45...

Listen to the YouTube clip a few posts back and at about 0:50 you'll hear some "strings" come in, which aren't strings... They're at the start but not so prominent...

Need to clear some space on the shelves and don't have time to list these separately. So, up for grabs is a nice job lot of 35 albums - hours of listening to keep you going over the cold coming months! Great collection builder - or for a dealer who wants to re-sell. Most are in great condition, even VG copies won't have any nasty scratches or anything... Records graded first, then cover LINDA LEWIS - Woman Overboard (UK Arista 1977) EX/EX PATTI AUSTIN - End Of A Rainbow (UK CTI 1976) VG+/VG+ PATTI AUSTIN - Patti Austin (German Qwest 1984) M-/EX SYREETA - Syreeta (UK Motown 1980) EX/EX BILLY PRESTON & SYREETA (UK Motown 1981) EX/EX ARETHA FRANKLIN - Sweet Passion (US Atlantic 1977) EX/EX ARETHA FRANKLIN - Who's Zooming Who? (US Artista 1985) M-/EX ARETHA FRANKLIN - Through The Storm (German Arista 1989) M-/EX MAZE - Featuring Frankie Beverley (US Capitol 1979) VG/EX DIONNE WARWICK - Dionne (UK Arista 1979) EX/EX DIONNE WARWICK - Dionne (US Warners 1972) EX/EX GLADYS KNIGHT - Miss Gladys Knight (US Buddah 1978) EX/EX PEACHES & HERB - 2 Hot (Mexican Polydor 1979) EX/EX RAFAEL CAMERON - Cameron's In Love (US Salsoul 1981) EX/EX BEN E KING - Music Trance (US Atlantic 1979) EX/EX BEN E KING - Let Me Live In Your Life (UK Atlantic 1978) EX/EX THE IMPRESSIONS - It's About Time (US Cotillion 1976) still sealed STEVIE WONDER - Light My Fire (UK Tamla/MFP 1969) EX/VG GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS / CURTIS MAYFIELD - Claudine soundtrack (US Buddah 1974) TOM JONES - Help Yourself (UK Decca 1968) VG/VG (inc. "I Can't Break The News To Myself") THE SUPREMES - At The Copa (UK Tamla Motown 1965) VG/EX THE SUPREMES & FOUR TOPS - Dynamite (UK Tamla Motown 1971) VG/VG MAJOR LANCE - Now Arriving (US Soul 1978) EX/EX JR WALKER & THE ALL STARS - Shotgun (UK Sounds Superb 1974 - 60s tracks) EX/EX FINISHED TOUCH - Need To Know You Better (US Motown 1978) EX/EX SPINNERS - Love Trippin' (US Atlantic 1980) EX/EX (inc. "I Just Want To Fall In Love") SERGIO MENDES - Love Music (UK Bell 1973) M-/EX (inc. "Love Music") ROY AYERS - Love Fantasy (UK Urban 1980) M-/VG+ RAY CHARLES - True To Life (UK London 1977) M-/EX THE CONTOURS - Baby Hit And Run (UK MFP 1974) M-/VG+ STAPLE SINGERS - City In The Sky (UK Stax 1974) EX/VG+ BETTY WRIGHT - Soul Expolsion (UK RCA 1976) EX/VG+ (Inc. "Open The Door To Your Heart") CORNELIUS BROTHERS & SISTER ROSE (US United Artists 1972) EX/EX SMOKEY ROBINSON - Smokey (UK Tamla Motown 1973) M-/EX THE THREE DEGREES - So Much Love (UK Pye 1975) ROY HAMILTON - You'll Never Walk Alone (US Epic 1955) EX/VG+ Looking for £100 for the whole lot of 35 - (there's plenty of £5-10 albums in here) plus cost of courier (which I'm guessing will be about £10-15 in the UK). Paypal preferred - PM if interested, thanks for looking!

If the blue label Phoenix single is a re-issue, where can you buy it? Why has nobody on here seen a copy? Even on Discogs it says that "0" people own it and "1" person wants it... And if someone was going to bootleg or re-issue it, then surely they'd just make an identical copy of the yellow label rather than change credits on it... I'm a relative new-comer to collecting soul, but the yellow label copy is distributed by Jamie/Guyden - which is a Philadelphia set-up, right? The blue label copy has a Hollywood, California address on it. So, is it not more likely that the blue label copy is the original California local release which was LATER picked up for national release by Jamie/Guyden, making the yellow label the "re-issue" - or slightly later pressing? As for changing publishing details, I would have thought that was very common practice - when licensing something to just change the publishing deal (and even the writing credits in many cases...) Once again, all pure conjecture, I just can't see why someone would re-issue this, and then put a load of extra made up information to make it look LESS like an original record. BUTCH, PLEASE PUT US ALL OUT OF OUR COLLECTIVE MISERY! PLEASE!!!!!!

Sorry, I think you misunderstood my point. I didn't mean Soussan's boots looked like the original records he was bootlegging. I meant his labels would just have looked like whatever bog standard labels the typesetter was knocking out quickly in the seventies. Obviously there was no attempt to copy the 60s designs. So, what I meant was that in the seventies hundreds of titles would be passing through pressing plants - pop, soul, country, prog, rock etc. So Soussan's boots just looked like any other label - so his labels are the same as seventies originals. And not the hundreds of other records looked like his... This is pure conjecture, and you might be about to tell me that it's a very distinctive look... It wouldn't have been letraset, the labels would have been manually set up with metal letterpress type. Quickly!

Hmmm, just wondering if it's worth buying 45s off Moerer just to get his stiffeners. Buy 25 singles and you'd have 100 stiffeners... Just the excuse I needed. THANKS!!!!!!!!!

Even if the label was typeset by the same guy who typeset Soussan's boots, there must have been hundreds of releases coming out at the time. It would surely have been a case of Soussan's boots looking the same as the originals and not the other way round? As a designer, the slightly different logos on each side is interesting. The typesetter must just have run out of letter "r"s and gone with another style. They also missed the bracket off the end of the matrix number on side two. You can tell I lead an exciting life... :-}

Yup, it's a right pain sending out 15 parcels - if only LESS people bought LOTS of records!

They're not really carton mailers though, are they? More like envelope mailers. I thought you meant the more boxey ones. Which sounds wholesale also do, if you search for cruciform mailers. Handy if you're sending abroad or two or three single in the one order...

Why would you want repro sleeves? Might as well just get repro records to put in them... Always think it just looks a bit wrong. Not having a go, mind. Hope you get originals sorted for them. Manship has a section on his site for company sleeves. Not cheap, but some of them are great!

Vg+ copy just sold in sales for £385...

But maybe ALSO put they're sold beside them, in case someone (like me) wants to buy the Johnny Watson - and by powers of deduction, work out that they're actually SOLD...

I don't want to appear to knock any parties here, just wanted a bit of debate. The fact that there were copies of this for sale, the very next morning got me wondering about capitalism at work... The night costs £20 to get in, it's usually £12 - so the free single costs £8. Does this make people more likely to sell them, to recoup their costs if they're not collectors? If the singles are worth £50 immediately AFTER the night, is there any reason why Ady shouldn't just up the door price to £50? If people want to keep their singles, great. If they want to sell them, they've had a great free night out? Selling the free singles just seems to reek of opportunism, really. If nobody buys the spares for £50 and instead reasons "the night cost £20 to get in, I'll pay you £20 - you've had a free night out, I've got a rare single" then everyone's happy - maybe I'm being a bit naive.