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Van Macoy (McCoy) ...(and then there was the Spanish Hustle) ...huge in the "night clubs" and played alongside Earl Wright "Thumb a Ride" which also came out on general release in the summer of '75 !!!!!

the slosh, momma do the slosh, everybody slosh now etc etc

yes really and read the rest of the thread and underline it yourself if you require further emphasis

Bottom line appears to be that you are somehow less entitled to an opinion if you didn't devote your life to going to niters and collecting whatever the latest rare discovery and regardless of whether it was at the right tempo to dance properly to. I'm a dancer and not a collector, and moved with the times and experienced other types of dance music when I became disenchanted with the way things where going in the early eighties..................so shoot me. I wasn't one of those who did Wigan for a couple of years, I went there and other niters 74 through 82. I continued to attend soul clubs, ok mostly local do's that my mates organised and DJ'd at right through the intervening period (including some cracking niters at the Ritz) despite the fact that I was regularly at the Hacienda and then garage clubs. Never really gave up the goat at all really, just less intensely and less frequently. Yet some of the "faith keepers" bleating on here think their's was the only scene that was ongoing. Who made the rule that we had to go to your clubs and with your intensity to be entitled to an opinion. 'You might like your exclusivity, fair enough, you might think the later discoveries are better than the old tunes but you've got to admit that in the most its not really proper dance music is it, which is probably why there is such a chasm between the dancers from the 70's and the forty somethings.

Looking forward to Burnley, I'll be the young'un then....just turned 54.........get ready lads......

Always been easy to please Pete

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Not dissing the Butch tapes, enjoyed them and the pic's were ace. The point I made was that the stuff that PeteS put in his "unpopular" sounds pod-cast included more good dance records. Also, I hate it when DJ's talk over records whether they're on the radio or not. Find it odd that you think that dancers aren't interested in music...........what are they going to dance to without it? So we agree on the elitism bit then. As to having preconceived ideas about rare soul, as I've said above I'm no expert, but my views are based on listening to Carl Willingham. I know Maria's brother Mark. Mark started collecting stuff 10+ years ago, guided by Carl & Maria and I in turn got to hear a fair bit and have been to a few of their nights........... and I still prefer my oldies. You are dead right, I need to go to places to hear this high tempo fantastic northern soul that I am obviously missing out on, so, as I have mentioned above, I'm going to get my self up to Burnley and see if I can keep up with the younger lads who apparently dance 'til dawn up there. I'll let you know how I get on.

Mel Britt..........top tune See you at Burnley

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Sorry to offend.......and it was "slosh" not "tosh".........."the slosh" being a waltz style dance popular with my parents' generation

.....smelly socks, that reminds me of another "interesting soul person"......Malcolm who was a permanent fixture on the floor in front of the stage at Wigan and who I used to see at the reincarnated wheel. :sweatingbullets:

No offence taken Bruv. I'm not going to pretend that I've heard all the stuff and yes I will gladly get up to Burnley with an open mind. Used to go to Angels to hear Curtis there.....sorry too long ago! I'm no expert mate, just like a good dance and still preoccupied catching up on the oldies that I missed 'cos I didn't spend all night plowing through record boxes.

Wasn't implying that you decried them all. Knew what you meant having read #112 on the "sounds that die thread".

1 Not all fish have scales, especially those which are indigenous to Scotland 2 Isn't banging on about being at it in the 80's & 90's just as nostalgic as banging on about the previous two decades?

If the forty somethings could play their mid-tempo slosh to full houses every week we wouldn't be having this debate. The events lists on here tell you what the majority of people want to hear when they go out and without them you have no one to DJ to. I can remember attending clubs when the manufactured stuff and "funk" created an influx of the new wave of jellybeans and drainpipes brigade so you ended up with a split club. We sat down right through their stuff and waited for our dj to come on and when he did, they sat down 'til IL and Tavares came back on. Can't see folk our age putting up money for that kind of event albeit that the 80's/90's stuff may be of a better pedigree. Having said that there was always elitism and from my earliest memories of going to clubs I recall that it wasn't cool to dance to certain records so you didn't even if you secretly liked them for fear of looking like a div but the difference is that at 50+ you aren't as susceptible to peer pressure as you were as a teenager. I've been listening to the Butch's tapes on another thread and Pete's podcast of so called tosh has more good dance records in it by far. And what's all that talkin' over the records about ? No wonder me and my mates f***ed it off in '82 Be interesting to see if the 80's & 90's discoveries are given up by today's 40 somethings in favour of newer sounds in 10 years time.

Nobody seems to know exactly where the dance style came from originally but got to be influenced by the artists and the people interpreting their stuff on dance floors in the States. Wherever it started its only still around because people copy what they've seen and put their own stamp (or stomp) on it. Good dancers aren't following any set routine they're just spontaneously dancing to the tune and making it their own.

DJ's - Love 'em or hate 'em, Levine, Roberts and Curtis were interesting, so was the bloke from Stoke..............? At a local level, Ronnie Hanley, Clarence and the Two Bald blokes kept the music going during the post Wigan / pre-renaissance era in my part of the North West and deserve credit for their efforts. Not saying they discovered or broke loads of stuff but they all educated me and other ordinary punters like me. CHARACTERS - met loads of 'em but big Willie from Ormskirk, Cesar, Gethro and Scally (Mike Atherton) spring to mind for different reasons.

I'll drink to that

I'm a punter and this is my view. The reason I went to Soul Clubs BITD was to hear sounds which, in the most part, only the DJ's playing there owned and to share a good night out with like minded people with all that entailed. I definitely got educated. The alternative was to go to a Night Club where the music came second to the activities on offer (I went there for the Jack & Danny) for a regular night out with my mates. We now have a 40+ year history where most clubs are really a hybrid of the two above and where it gets tricky is the split between the nostalgic preferences of the club-goers. What you hold the DJ responsible for nowadays depends on why you pay your money to go to his club and what your expectations are. The Promoter wants happy returning punters. Most of the punters just want a good night out with the added advantage of hearing and dancing to soul music. The DJ wants to do his thing. So for me I would have said I expected the dj to meet 1, (and if 3 happened that was a bonus) BITD but I think that in the most part people expect current dj's to meet 2 ( and if 3 happens its a bonus). Given the average age of the punters out and about now, many would take exception at someone trying to "educate" them or arrogant enough to think that they were going to impress them to the point of "having a moment in time". As no one would pay to be bored 4 should be a given. So ideally give me 1,2 & 3 everytime

Great picture of a legend. Think that Man Utd-v- Benfica Eurpopean cup final took place at Wembley, which would match with the date and him shopping in Harlow.

Thanks for sortin' that. I think another one that may have died with the Wheel was Polk Salad Annie (T J White?) never heard it any where other than the revived wheel at whitworth street

Remember hearing Travis Womack downstairs at Wigan but that was sometime after the wheel closed. One of the wheel crowd from our way, Bill O'Nea,(not sure of spelling) said their quirky pet tune was Wang dang doodle (Big Mabel?) which he always played when they let him do a set at the wheel. Never heard it out though but I taped it with loads of other stuff from his collection.

stop sitting on the fence and say what you really mean