Blackpoolsoul

Wow, how dare you suggest that, I have know John since I was a teenager and he would never do that. in fact I have been a supporter of his amazing videos on You Tube of how to spot fakes and have spread the word to others. Karl, if you are going to continue trying to distort what I say then do as you will, it's just silly

Let me get this straight Karl and based on your comments. John put it up for auction, even though he did not trust the disc 100%. How odd is that? Why did he not ask the same facebook page that outed it's authenticity or even his own, so he could get the responses and advice that have happened. I am fully entitled to my opinion as you are yours and I will always make MY point as others will theirs. You state "I always seem to think the worst and continually stir the pot and that someone is up to no good" which is a lie and you have no authority to say this whatsoever, so please be careful with your personal comments. Let me throw a couple of positive things in for you. Buyers will be checking, more carefully perhaps, if the purchases they make are credible The record may create yet more advertising for John, he will be happy with that.

For some, the emotions maybe there, I think it goes deeper, when we are talking about a record market that has now pushed itself into the realms of price madness and dealers like John are commanding such high prices, to the bewilderment of some and the satisfaction of the sellers bank managers. Soul detectives have spent years trying to uncover the bootleggers works since Jeff King was first jailed for his efforts and Simon Soussan ruled the counterfeit market in boxes at Northern Soul venues and lists galore and to see the "famous Dj's" and suppliers booting tunes and a dealer or dealers getting it wrong is sad and really disappointing. As far as the red herring, John clearly must now the supply source then (if knows) and out them to protect his reputation.

You see how old I am, I read this and had completely forgotten, cheers buddy

Looks like the Triangle Records place was bulldozed down and replaced, this new house was built in 2009

Nabay Restum AKA Nicki Robbins (stage name) was Lebanese and was raised in the South end of Dearborn, Michigan Nabay also sang with the The Royaltones in some of the local clubs. Ali Bushamie started off as a saxophone player that played with the Counts. The Counts was one of the early groups that Bob Babbit played Upright Bass in. The group consisted of Ali Bushamie (sax) Gene Malido (sax) Norman Sands (drums) and Nabay(Nabay Restum)vocals.

Thing is Dave, there are people who "could" have been fooled and if wasn't for Karl's FB page, it "might" have not been ratted out in the way it was (I had no idea) and a young gun, with a large bank account could have bought a pup. There are, as you know, plenty of counterfeit purchase histories spattered all over popsike and other auctions. I have never seen much about the whole Vent label and publishing and always had may doubts about the LP's background and maybe this might shed some light to satisfy my curiosity, if nothing else, maybe that is for another thread (unless I missed it)

There is little to argue with that and we ALL agree mistakes can be made. I and others, I guess, are just hoping that John will tell us HOW the error occurred. John quotes "The Home of Rare Vinyl Records John Manship Records have been supplying collectors worldwide with rare vinyl records since 1969. We are universally recognised as a world authority on rare soul vinyl. Our whole stock has been handpicked and is arguably the most comprehensive stock of rare soul vinyl anywhere in the world."

Your "rare soul" FB page has no doubt saved a trusting buyer from spending on a potential disaster.

Here are the group members

Selecta Disc and 1976 are very interesting connections, did SS boot it then as a white one, I wonder ? Rob may remember it if someone asks him

Indeed and me more than most, however, this was a big deal and a big ticket thing and I would have expected John to get this right, with his experience and vast knowledge, I don't get it at all.

He described it on his auction totally differently and convinced me (at first) it was a grail and has made, IMHO, a huge error. Perhaps the blonde girl from Bristol (I forget her name) will interview him again and question what happened, so we can watch on You Tube, but some how I doubt it and he will be hoping that the story will go away very very quickly. I think it will be very honourable of him to tell us the facts, his wife is on here now, maybe she will do it.

Been around £100 price for a few years so someone got a bargain........not

Can't wait for a conversation about The Ethics on his next auction, what a blast that will be

John will tell you if you ask him, surely (in confidence)

I sort of meant without the private bits crossed out as I am genuinely struggling to see John ever sending mail like that to anyone, he keeps his business very private and would love and be amazed to be proved wrong

I have never known John ever break confidentiality about anyone before, so you are very lucky you managed to get him to do that. Can you show us the email please ?

Well remembered, I forgot to wonder

If he does, he can stop at our house (we have a sun bed for those performance tans)

Great tune and one of my top ten now, it was missed by so many people, being on Acid Jazz label ? £50 but will increase when the Northern DJ's hear it and claim it is their's Those CD things ruin my stylus though, so I bought plastic

Will he do one of those "50 only" things so you can get one

I think Henry Stone's Hot Productions who released this CD in 1996 went belly up in 1998 and were just doing CD's

It sold on eBay 20th August for £19 (demo) I might post it as one of the "funniest" things I have ever read "excruciating" rare

Because not all bootleggers have brains