Blackpoolsoul

One sold for £370 VG+ on Discogs in March this year I do know that some dealers are buying off Discogs and re-selling later ?

Cheers Mike I missed that, it helps thanks

Spotted this for sale https://www.ebay.com/itm/Northern-Soul-Anderson-Brothers-GSF-6914-I-can-see-him-loving-you-Stereo-Mono/264966533933?hash=item3db13c732d:g:5jYAAOSwbHpfzOkq How do you tell a real one from all the boots ?

Some idiot is trying to sell one for $75 on Discogs The record is worth a bout £10 These people as Tim Roth would say should seek help with their "Mental Health" (Perhaps there should be a helpline)

Looks like an old link as well Mike as it mentions VAT increasing to 20% in 2011 !!!

As the older ones of us know Soussan's Bootlegs were in them selves quite an amazing thing to produce in them 1970's days and to be honest I have a "little" admiration for the efforts that were made without the technology that is now available. It will never end as sellers cannot put "bootleg" on the listings on auction sites and to be fair at least Discogs has attempted to "slow" the process down and theses scumbags have tried to get round it buy listing them against the original release with an attempt at a "get out" clause as with the phrase "re-issue" on EBAY etc. All we can ask is that the knowledgable folks on here let Discogs know when possible and spend time adding details so in 20 years time then everyone will know (here's hoping) You may notice that in the notes section on the Billy it now draws attention to the bootleg so sellers and buyers will know If you go into Discogs and look at unofficial releases, sad to say that after years of saying they would be banned there are still plenty for sale so all these sites cannot cope with policing it (as yet)

Sadly the world we live in means that companies and websites are petrified of lawyers NOT bootleggers, so yes, I reported it/them and nothing happened and nothing will, they all appear to be spineless. If I mention them here I may get my post removed for the same/similar reasons You can PM me and I will happily give you the details

Not Original Copy, Apparently people are supposed to guess what it means. I bought a cheap record from the same seller on Discogs from the same seller in Kilburn, Derbyshire and when I asked why she was selling boots under the original listings when the boots had been blocked from sale she replied "Did you not realise that NOC meant "Not Original Copy"" What an idiot I am I thought , it must be me deceiving myself

Spot on and I can confirm all 3 copies were bootlegs, It is a problem that Discogs have been wanting to solve since the listings started when (shall we term them as idiots ?) were getting away with it. Kilburn in Derbyshire is nice at this time of the year I believe NOC Discogs is primarily a database so sadly this happens from time to time and there are a number of listings that have the same sort of false sales data attached as this one

I thought the boot had "Disc Jockey, Not For Sale" on it (perhaps it was booted more than once ?)

Exactly and Karl is spot on too A counterfeit or bootleg will never be removed from sale if it is called a re-issue, 2nd issue, carver etc. (Just plain lies in some cases) and yet some sites ban fakes (clothes, pictures, handbags etc) which to me is the same attempt at deception. If Lisa Stansfield is being booted then we are all doomed !!! This site will only allow historic boots I believe (Mike will correct me if I am wrong)

Can Steve Guarnori help you out Karl, I am sure he had something to do with the New Backbeat

That's why I asked Karl and it goes back to seller being "clever" with wording or misleading if it is a boot, as he is describing it as a 2nd issue and any unsuspecting seller would never know until it was too late. We had that case a few years back and I thought counterfeiters and those selling their goods would run and hide but perhaps I was being naive, It's never going to go away is it. Good news as well I see Discogs are now listing the most expensive 50 soul records they have sold to help the counterfeiters know exactly which records to market in the future (you may sense a little sarcasm in my comments)

Hi Discogs has this listed as a boot which is it please ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/203166734018

As above it's worth mentioning the Rock-A-Teens connection, as another act on the Roulette roster, to notorious music biz gangster Morris “Moishe” Levy. Add the R-A-T’s to the list of those who got their song-writing credits hijacked by Levy, and never reaped a dime of "Woo-Hoo" publishing action, despite the song peaking at the #16 position on the Billboard charts in 1959. But Levy wasn’t the first to fleece the R-A-T’s. That dubious distinction goes to George McGraw, owner of the Mart label, who originally released the song. McGraw followed the Levy blueprint by forcing his name onto the songwriting credits, and then leased the song to Levy's Roulette, who continued the bilkage on a grander scale.

And now I find McGraw wrote this track which Tarantino got hold of.....What a connection

I always suspected that the Salem release was a totally different group with a couple of guys doing vocals, would be nice to join the Carter Brothers with the group and get info After some digging I have no conclusions about members sadly, but turned up this photo which speaks for itself and you never know, might just lead somewhere Now added to Discogs George Donald McGraw AKA "Jolly Don" and “Cuzzin Don” was a local radio personality on WOPI and WCYB in Bristol as well as stations in Richmond, Virginia, and Salem, Virginia, in the late 1940s and early 1950s. With his access to station studios and equipment, his record company was really a P. O. Box and wherever “Cuzzin Don” told the artists to show up to record. He also owned a record store on Main Street in Salem He had the Doran, Mart and Salem labels, plus McGraw Music Co. Inc. (ASCAP) and Sugarloaf Pub. Co. (BMI), all housed at 111 Main Street, Salem, VA. He himself was an ASCAP affiliated songwriter.

https://www.facebook.com/SanDiegoNuggets/posts/happy-winter-the-nomads-were-a-popular-san-diego-band-in-the-late-1950s-and-earl/904202816333480/

Pete mentioned it and Antony claims he purchased it Ted and listed it on Discogs as Karl mentioned

https://www.instagram.com/sonoradio/ This be the man who says he bought it

Why on earth did that World Wide Web get invented sooner and all this confusion could be got rid of

"Distribution" sir the company used different names 😀

Thanks, used a different name then (again)on some releases, (more work to do)

Found this with same Distribution (I haven't seen many)

I love the other stuff too "This group was from West Chesterfield in the heart of Chatham on the south side of Chicago. They all attended Harlan high school. The group had two leading singers, Jan Jones and Finch. Jan was exceptional in everything but made bad choices. I thought Finch had the VOICE. Rumor has it that on payday they got robbed by Management which led to the break up." This probs explains why they just vanished