Modernsoulsucks

You do,do you. I find it childish and infuriating but I am thinking about it. I wouldn't have to throw in a bit of cash too would I? It's probably going for over £200 now and Christ knows what it will be worth by Friday. Bearsy I think you've done your bit to earn your discount on Pete's next list. ROD

Unfortunately I find myself agreeing with Pete Smith, who I understand will be listing prices on his next list in pieces of silver, in that ANMHE has not been overplayed in the clubs for the simple reason that until Mick Smith had some kinda seizure this 45 was not considered suitable for playing in a Northern club because in the past the consensus was that it was not Northern, so had you waited to hear this at the Torch,Wigan,Mecca or Stafford you'd have been disappointed. Ste, I take no offence at all and now that you have inducted me into the rare soul brigade Im looking forward to discussing matrix numbers with fellow enthusiasts until my lips fall off. ROD

Most of these I got as higher graded 45s but I only collect Minty records so off-loading them. VG+ means it's very good at least. NOT just above fu..ed!! No scratches and no unsightly marks on any. Anyone wanting to hear any could phone me after 7pm on mobile 07766 765141. Quite happy to send 45s if not sure about condition. Looking for Minty ska/rocksteady, Island label 45s as well Thanks Rod Barbara Mercer "Hey" GW Ex £5 Leon & Metronomes "I'll catch you on the rebound" WDJ CARNIVAL EX £25 Vibrations "Canadian Sunset" OKEH DJ VG+ £4 Forest Hairston "We go to pieces" M- VINEY £10 Johnnie Mae Matthews "Here comes my baby" BLUE ROCK Ex £5 Mandells "Do'in the look" WDJ M JUBILEE £10 Robert Moore "Jo-ann" De-Luxe DJ M- Good semi-known £10 Showmen "The honey house" DJ Swan Ex £8 Kennard Gardner "Do the skin" Dore VG+ [slight tear near centre hole] £5 Delta 67807 Entertainers IIII "People don't look no more" Ex DORE [delta 59379] £5 Embers "It ain't necessary" Ex Bell DJ On reverse paper pressed into grooves but doesn't affect play i.e. no clicks £10

Im sure I posted this before but I guess no one pays much attention. Deffo Richard play at Wigan but it was doing nothing really. In a warehouse in Washington '81-ish and there's all these copies of the 45. Played it and thought I recognise that. Bought 10 I think. Dave and I may have kept a copy and played it. I'd estimate I left around 600+. Late 80's and 45s in warehouse long gone and no way to contact the lady who had them all, plus a few thousand soul'rare groove LPs that were not worth picking up back in early 80's. ROD

Im slightly heartened by the miniscule support I have received by other members of the head up one's own arse rare soul brigade, as we are affectionately known by Mr. Brazil. I would like to point out that I never said anything about it being rare soul or not. I just said that as a Motown 45 it was pretty poor IMO compared to most and the examples [Contours/Kim Weston] I gave are in no way "rare soul". I also said that in a short dj spot surely there are hundreds of more stimulating 45s to choose from, a point conceded by Pete "Judas" Smith. I can understand that Mick may have captured a moment by playing this 45 recently but as Pikey said we are now talking about it being the next big "handbag" sound to be tolerated at Across the Board do's. Im a big fan of Motown and have over 200 45s but for me Mr Gordy kinda lost it when the Tops got to cover pop songs and his attention moved from the streets of Detroit to the lounges of Las Vegas. This 45 to my ears falls on the wrong side of that divide. ROD

I can see Im out voted here so I will concede defeat gracefully, you cloth-eared knobheads!! Thank you for putting me in my place ROD

Well Mischief, maybe I am. I never had much of an ear for knowing what makes a good Northern 45. ROD

Sebastian, of course I bloody do but Im not spending all night typing just for you to say "oh yeah you're right". ROD

Well Chrissie and Mischief you're both entitled to your views even if completely erroneous!!! Something like the Contours "Your love grows more precious" or Kim Weston "Looking for the right guy" are "great bit"s of Motown/Soul. Not this pop schmaltz. Chrissie are you seriously suggesting that in a dj spot of usually an hour this is worth 2.30mins of anyone's time, bearing in mind what is out there to play. ROD

https://cgi.ebay.com/MARVIN-GAYE-45-AINT-NO...1QQcmdZViewItem Hope that link works!! Can someone explain why this pop favourite of my mother's is getting played at the expense of say around ten thousand and upward tunes of better quality and who on earth is bidding on it. OK it's a demo but $122 last time I looked. I know some of us think maybe the scene has lost it's focus in recent years but this.... ROD

Had a quick look at this and don't buy the argument that disco, esp as typified by compilation Ian posted, was a "natural" progression on from 60's soul aimed at the dance floor. Unfortunately I know bugger-all about 70's in depth but those of you on here who are into that era probably have "dance" records made in that period that can't be descibed as disco. Would something like Nathan Williams fall in that period. I'd contend that disco is a kinda hybrid mixing soul/R&B with pop and other influences which I would say was similar to late 60's Motown where Gordy tried to sell straight into the pop charts rather than aiming at the R&B market first. Im not saying that there weren't soulful disco 45s produced but as a general term it is not synonymous with Black Music and in fact brought about it's rather dubious reputation by re-working unsuitable material into a disco style. Having said that I have fond memories of "Theme from a Summer Place" [76?] on Columbia I think than Levine spun once or twice at the Mecca. Whilst Im actually thinking about disco played on the scene it didn't really mix too well with the 60's did it? Not talking Carstairs early era here but the whole Salsoul "Before 3001" or whatever schtick. I mean didn't Colin sorta segregate "Cheatin Kind" etc into the last half-hour when the Mecca really got into it. ROD

There are a couple on there I'd be interested in. Any chance of emending original post to show condition. ROD

I picked up original release on USA Bullet, before Yew, of Intrigues "In a moment". £15 incP&P and I've never seen it and didn't know about it either. ROD

Gotta be Simon Sousson. He conned everbody!! ROD

Steve, I obviously can see your point but I've cleared the floor many a time wiyh 45s that went on to be huge such as Trannels, Johnnie Mae Matthews and Pat&Blenders. I don't care. Now,you and Sam are respected names on the scene. Why not leave the rare oldies at home and play what you believe in. ROD

Helena, just had a quick look ay playlists. You're right it was a lot of modern soul which I am not up on but Im sure there are others on here who are and can compare. Of the 60's playlists nothing I didn't recognise. A lot of the modern was from years ago like Matt Brown and Ernest Baker. From your 3 spots I didn't know PJ City,Mae Gem and Alfie Capers. Modern guys on here may know them. It was a mixture though with two-step/boogie/rare groove like Matt Covington 12",Sylvia Striplin,Heaven and Earth,[ I know the records cos I used to have a shop and sell this stuff] again from years ago in the UK and there seemed to be garage or YK2 soul lists as well. So although I can't be sure re. modern I don't think there's any evidence that the Swedish scene is doing anything but mixing different styles popular over here in the past. From the pictures you are all enjoying yourselves which is the main thing although I hope you all did your homework and tidied your room before you went out. ROD

Just noticed my demo is distributed by Laurie. ROD

I just had a look at Bogue's . I have a demo white with a "star" on left hand side of "Instant Heartbreak" and number is DR-1004DJ. Also a stamp but probably optional saying "THANKS Bob Sziiagy-Bill Craig SIDRA RECORDS 18292 Wyoming-Detroit MI" Matrix stamped WAKM 0326 1A" Hope that helps ROD

I think I'd agree with Maria [no need to apologise Northern/Rare pretty interchangeable terms] and Ian. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but it's still a mere copy. Maria pointed out that most if not all the 45s played started out over here in the clubs which I kinda figured they had but Im still open to correction if any of the jocks based elsewhere outside the UK would care to post their playlists to prove Maria and I wrong. That's not to say that jocks elsewhere are not as good as their UK counterparts or as enthusiastic and committed but Im wondering just how much of a two-way street it is. There's been plenty of commemts about the broad musical policy adopted elsewhere mixing soul and funk which again is a good thing because that establishes a seperate identity to that over here,but to pretend it is Northern Soul scene is rather disingenuous. Of course the scene here would be nothing without guys like Anderson etc but there were plenty of US guys into 60's soul whose influence and contribution are not recognised. However they never as far as I know claimed to be into Northern. When I was in the USA I met some of the guys into the Pittsburgh scene, went to loads of Beach clubs and a "Dusties" do in Chicago. If you want authenticity I'd go with those everytime over some transplanted Northern event. It's like going abroad and looking for the first place that does English cooking and serves pints. ROD

I emailed about Bonnie Brisker. No reply? ROD

I'll give you a tenor for 'em. ROD

Silk Falling in love...... NATION VG++-EX £25 SOLD Al Johnson Im back for more UK CBS £3 EX Vibrations Canadian Sunset OKEH DJ EX £3 Dynettes New guy CONSTELLATION £2.50 VG++ Lee & Leopards Come into my palace LAURIE DJ VG++ £8 SOLD Joy Fleming Are you ready for love UK DJ PRIVATE STOCK £5 nice modern Bob Wilson Suzy's Serenade SOUND STAGE 7 DJ Ex-M- £10 Misty Graham Soul Energy CRS DJ M- £5 Joanne&Triangles After the showers... VIP DJ £15 VG++_EX ABSOLUTE BOBBINS!!! SOLD Rozay Sam ISP M- £8 nice modern Detroit Isleys This old heart US TAMLA DJ EX £12 SOLD Dawn Baby's gone away ABC WDJ VG++ £15 Charades You better believe it HARLEM HITPARADE VG++ slt dishwarp and sound quality on all copies leaves a lot to be desired £25 SOLD Please PM if interested. I will take Paypal if you agree to pay the 4% fees. All 45s are in really good nick and guaranteed. P&P £1.50 for 1st recorded. Thanks ROD

I think he's been watching "The Wire". My apologies for mis-spelling "dawg" in earlier post. ROD

I like that "rockin' some heavy plates" Sutty. Is that anything like those balancing acts on Sunday Night at the London Pallidium. Whatever happened to variety,dog? Some of the dj's nowadays I wouldn't trust to wash plates!! ROD

I think the gentleman is saying that although he is willing to share information with those less knowledgable than himself he will only go so far. He is particularly exasperated at certain people who are forever trying to see what he's playing instead of relying on their own judgement. Im surprised you jiveass motherf**kers on here wasn't feelin' it, nahmean? ROD