Modernsoulsucks

That's the LP with Mamie Galore "No right to cry" on it, isn't it? ROD

FOR SALE Norma Jenkins WDJ Mintish Condition. OTT Offers only please What have I said? What? ROD Bit of a twee novelty record really don't you think, Ted.

So far no one's got a bad word to say for the guy and IMO I think he's stumbled on something that I've thought about for years. If you're gonna re-issue or boot something then why not take the time and trouble to duplicate the original release or label. I guess it's down to cost but by way of example what if Adey instead of putting out Lorraine Chandler "You live only once" on the give-away Kent label had issued it as a WDJ on RCA. I know copyright etc but how much better would that look if pressed as a USA 45. He had the rights anyway.I wonder if it crossed his mind or have I got too much time on my hands. ROD

I did notice that but it's not a 45 I particularly am interested in so I didn't know if by "re-issue" it referred to it coming out twice by Southbound Freeway and Tony Galla. I think that's right isn't it? So it's an actual bootleg/re-issue? There was a bidding war going on between an Irish guy and an Italian judging from bid history. ROD

https://cgi.ebay.com/NORTHERN-SOUL-NOLAN-CH...1QQcmdZViewItem Apologies if this has already been referred to. I've noticed this seller on Ebay churning out this stuff on a regular basis and getting IMO very high bids. Has he hit on a sure-fire money spinner or is it somehow unethical. I note that his opening bid is $9.99 which at roughly £6 is around or perhaps even under the going rate for a current re-issue or UK release and he is not forcing anyone to pay over that. I can't help feeling "good luck to him" but it does raise serious questions about the mental capacity of some of his customers. ROD

Rare indie soul from '81 in Mint. £120. Featuring modern track "Sweet tender loving" and 2-step "just for love" Ta ROD Also anyone interested in: Drifters EPIC DJ copy £100 5 Royales "Catch that teardrop" ABC £200 Both Mintish with full money back guarantee

Anyone with a Mintish copy of "Go Now" please. Also "The Dip" Whispers on DORE, Larks "For the love of money" on AROCK and Creations "Just remember me" on GLOBE. Ta ROD

It's a bidding war I think. Lunacy!! ROD

I think the Rays[with Hal Miller] did the original on XYZ 102 and then picked up by Cameo and released Cameo117. Also was covered by Diamonds on Mercury and so I've read Steve Gibson & Redcaps on ABC. Herman's Hermits had a big hit with it in '65. Before being too impressed I just looked up details on internet!! ROD

Off their LP on Brunswick I reckon "She'd never say it" or similar title. Not a 45 I don't think. Kinda bouncy early 70's. ROD

"Well Simon, perhaps few right now would ever want to concede or contemplate this ... but possibly the future and cutting edge of rare soul appreciation may lie overseas, outside the UK ???" We are talking about the UK scene aren't we? So the fact that there's a night on in Melbourne really has no bearing on whether scene here is contracting again. I would like to know though what 45s they play overseas that we don't or haven't at some stage. I was coming home from Winsford the other night at 4am with hardly any traffic on the road and lights out in all the houses and I was thinking to myself that I'd left 200 people dancing away in some small market town in Cheshire. I think that can be considered "underground" still despite odd bit of Media coverage. ROD

Quite agree,Simon. That Dean Anderson!! Most softly-spoken polite headbanger I've ever met. And Guy "Mephistopheles" Hennigan was a Machiveallian manipulator without equal.Forcing me to take the Groovettes and Larry Wright for some imagined favour I'd done him. Thoroughly nasty pieces of work,the pair of them!! ROD

JT, if someone takes the trouble to sign up to Ebay and get Paypal access how on earth is anyone NOT going to see this 45. Fact that it's $2000+ is going to deter most buyers anyway. Having said that a mate of mine on this site wasn't aware that USA Ebay carried more soul 45s than UK Ebay. He runs his own successful company so not a surprise that he was somewhat slow on the uptake. A nice bloke despite being a capitalist oppressor of the working class. I hope I've not given anything away there but hey Im quite happy for other people to have same opportunities as me. ROD

I'd agree with that with the proviso that it's the guides that have inflated the prices in the first place by assuming that all 45s have risen along with certain collectible titles. Unless JM and TB got their valuation off the top of their heads then whatever benchmark they originally used is no longer valid because it's now evident a lot esp. at cheaper end don't sell for that. I don't like the guides but Im sure John and Tim put a lot of work into compiling them so only conclusion to draw is that there is a downturn. ROD

Just had a look at that,Adam. Curious!! ROD

I think you'll find there's a few buyers in the past who haven't checked. ROD

Pete,I meant if you're gonna rip some buyer off then why not Al Williams,Cairos, William Powell etc. ROD

Seller seems to have good feedback and been on Ebay for a good while. Bit of a cheapish 45 to try to scam a buyer? ROD

I know it sounds unlikely but I think I've seen Alvin Cash "Twine time" on XL a couple of times on Ebay. ROD

I think this ad just sums up for me the complete farce that is 45 valuation https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...47&ssPageNa Over £1600 yet seller will take less than 25% of that at set sale. The final bid is roughly 13% of total supposed value. I couldn't have been the only person on here to see this [Pete S.?]. ROD

So Mark you're playing that readily available '77 issue of that rare '67 song then? What did I say? What? What? See you Sat. ROD

Headsy I've no idea. To me nothing cos I collect originals. To the Ebay browsers below £5.99 cos nobody bid. To the buyers looking at John's site below £20 cos it's still there. How you arrive at an actual value from that info I haven't the foggiest. I would say that just because an original of Chalfontes IMO is £30-40 say, it doesn't follow that there's a demand for the re-issue to give it any value other than the 85p or whatever it originally sold for. As for current 45s like Grapevine whilst I accept the argument about limited runs and costs I don't know enough about licencing and pressing up a 45 to know whether £10 is reasonable. I do know that I prefer to spend that money on USA originals and hang on for a cheaper deal when buying that stuff. Are Kent 45s same price as Grapevine? All in all bit of a tendency to over-inflate and maybe us buyers are perhaps not getting as good a deal as we should. ROD

Dave, ta for that. What can one say really. There's no rhyme or reason to any of this valuation lark that I can see. ROD

Sorry. Three copies of re-issue. No bids at all. I reckon your estimation may be a bit out. This is not a go at you but this is second time today when sales price are quoted for re-issues with what to me appears no grounding in reality. I assume it's JM bootleg guide that lists "value". I use that term loosely. ROD

Headsy, you may wanna look at this https://search-completed.ebay.com/search/se...o%3D2&fgtp= ROD