Modernsoulsucks

Although not so relevant back in the 70's. Im not quite sure what actual tracks I was listening to back in '76 at Wigan and the Mecca but pretty sure those I liked were mainly Black Music albeit uptempo but they didn't all sound the same to me then and don't now. I read Roger was putting Echo & Bunneymen, OMD and similar pop groups on in Liverpool at that time. Back in '68/69 he was something to do with the Magic Village in Manchester which was an "underground" [rock] venue playing the Nice amongst others. Exactly the reason I got into soul in the first place cos 6th form was full of "underground" types listening to dreary music based on old blues riffs. I too have spoken to him when he came down to my shop in Manchester back in the 90's. He didn't appear to have a clue about Northern and as that's mostly Black Music encompassing most of the major soul artists of past 40 odd years I'd question the tag "Black music fanatic", although I'd give him "Blues and R&B affectianado". I don't think his views on the scene or the music carry any more weight than some other outsider with no experience or liking for the genre. ROD

Is it not cheaper to just sell at a set price if you have a reserve in mind. It may not have been a soul 45 for all I know but if it were I'd always use SS rather than Ebay. ROD

John's blurb said not in good nick. ROD

Way before we met. If I'd known her then I certainly wouldn't have been phased by the top predator of the African savannah. Any doubts about my story could be quashed in an instant if Francis T. would only post on that thread. He was there, albeit screaming like a girl used to do back in those old 50's horror movies, which I now accept was a gross caricature and misrepresentation since undergoing extensive re-education at Camp Clare, and was almost back in Stockport before I'd clocked it was a real lion. ROD On reflection maybe I embellished his reaction to make my leap backward over the counter the more manly and heroic. Just in case he does read this.

Clare was a regular in Mr. M's and her favourite record is 7th Wonder "Captain of my ship". I've not spoken to her since before we were married. ROD

All 45s are original. Even those graded VG+ are in very very good condition apart from odd scuffs or light marks and all are guaranteed money back if not satisfied. No scratches or f**ked records here. M- is my top grade and EX is not far off that. 60's Northern 1. Joe Murphy So blue WDJ VIVID EX £25 2. Leon&Metronomes I'll catch you on the rebound WDJ EX [couple of small scuffs] CARNIVAL £25 5. Vic & Catalinas Talkin' about my girl BAR CLAY M- £15 6. Mystic Moods Astral Trip WDJ WB EX £15 7. Dave Love Coalined Baby SOLID SOUL VG+ £8 10.Embers It ain't necessary DJ BELL M- £8 [bit of paper residue in vinyl on b-side but plays fine] 11.Kennard Gardner Do the skin DORE [67807] VG+ £5 [very slt tear to label at centre] 12.Patrice Holloway Stay with your own kind CAPITOL M- £12 13.Jimmy Delphs Almost KAREN [multicolored] VG+ £5 14.Dells Thinking about you CADET EX £50 15.Billy Butler Gotta get away OKEH EX £15 16.Joe Frazier You got the love CLOVERLAY M- £5 17.Shirelles Last minute miracle SCEPTER EX £20 18.Bessie Banks I can't make it without you DJ VERVE M- £40 19.Chris Bartley Sweetest thing this ... WDJ VANDO M- £10 20.Mandells Doin' the look WDJ JUBILEE M- £10 21.Barbara Mercer Hey GW EX £5 22.Robert Moore Jo Ann DJ De LUXE M- £10 23.Johnnie M. Matthews Here comes my baby BLUE ROCK EX £5 24.Forest Hairston We go to pieces VINEY M- £10 25.Showmen The Honey House WDJ SWAN EX £8 26.Hesitations Wait a minute WDJ KAPP £15 [this has an edge crack NAP otherwise EX] 70's Soul 27.Betty Lavette You're gonna wake up wiser ATCO VG+ £10 28.Gloria Gaynor This love affair POLYDOR M- £25 29.Millie Jackson My man is a sweet man SPRING EX £5 30.Jean Carn If you wanna go back WDJ PIR [s/s] M- £5 31.Checkmates Ltd. All alone by the telephone WDJ POLYDOR [s/s] M- £50 32.David Morris Jr. Midnight Lady BUDDAH EX £10 33.Dutch Robinson Can't get along without you DJ UA EX £30 34.Rare Pleasure Let me down easy CHERYL M- £25 35.Buddy Turner You're what's missing... OCEAN/ARIOLA M- £10 s/s : single sided Please PM if interested. Payment by Paypal or cheque. Postage for 1 x 45 is £2 by recorded 1st class mail. All 45s sent out in new mailers well-packed. Thanks ROD

Actually Sean it was "Far away places" not "Watch out girl" that got plays,hence BMR bootleg. Here's a link to remake of Kurt Harris. Just heard it on Beach Radio. Thought it sounded different. https://www.paulcraver.com/biography.html ROD

There is no "My little girl" It's "Big brother" both sides Im afraid. ROD

Isn't it TanGeers on OKEH? ROD

What are you two on about? They've always turned up. Lots of copies knocking about IMO ROD

Yes I can see that. Oldies at Tesco's, newies at Harrod's Food Hall and modern at Aldi. ROD

You know how your wife asks does this outfit suit me and you can see the trap with the sharp spikes she's just dug for you. Well think of Simon's posts in the same way. ROD

I listed it at £100 the other week and no takers. Popular two-stepper back in 90's so I guess not much use to your average Northern fan, like me!! ROD

Vaneese and Carolyn Goodbye Song Polydor £75 M- [black small smudge on label] ON HOLD Jackie Wilson You brought about a change Brunswick DJ VG+ £15 [small mark on vinyl and little rub to label where sticker was] Still a very nice copy. ON HOLD Please PM if interested. Full usual guarantee if not happy. Ta ROD

Dimensions did have minor play back in early 70's. My copy is pale blue. Think Reflections but not as gritty and soulful!! ROD

https://cgi.ebay.com/DOBIE-GRAY-The-In-Crow...Q2em118Q2el1247 Here's a copy on Ebay. You'd be extremely lucky to get rid of it for a couple of quid. Sorry ROD

Played this out a few times to rousing indifference. Great 45! Think I musta heard it originally at the Pendulem in the warm-up spots there. ROD

Don't tell me to F88K off you pr*ck. I said "imagine" clueless. At such a young age I doubted you'd have had much experience of listening to Northern and going to venues to get a feel for it. F88king moron!!! ROD

Yep I found it at Ye Olde Clocke Shoppe in Kannapolis NC around 91/92. Knew the guys in there very well through getting them Beach 45s. Been through place a few times but just happened to look under a table and behind some mags there were a few boxes I'd not seen. Mostly Beach but a lot of oddball 45s. Got the Willis and that blue label thing "Little something or other" which I saved for Butch. And yes I though it had a slight reggae feel which I think is why I liked it. Also got the Sadler Panther 45 which I think Phil Wainwright got off me and a few others like Johnny Hoyle [i think]. Can't remember too well now but around 30 decent 45s. If Agent is the guy who sold another to Barry James then by my calculation he was only 26/27 at the time and I imagine clueless when it came to Northern. And now for the controversy. Most of them were or are clueless without the price guides anyway!! Very few I'd trust to tell me what a good unknown record is. ROD

All records are Mintish unless stated. That means look like store stock really. Lowest grades are EX/VG+ which means it's still a very nice record with odd mark but no scratches. Payment is either cheque made out to D.G.Withers and sent to me Rod Shard 10 Parker Ave Clitheroe Lancashire BB7 1JA Paypal also fine. I will supply details if you wish to use this method. Prompt payment required as selling these for Dave and he needs some funds to cover his UK expenses. Prices are in £ Motown 1. Amos Milburn I'll make it up to you somehow WDJ Motown EX 10 SOLD 2. Debbie Dean Don't let him shop around [stripes/Bell Sound] Motown EX 10 SOLD 3. Miracles If your mother only knew Tamla EX 25 4. Velvelettes These things will... Soul [dh] EX 12 SOLD 5. Kim Weston Helpless Gordy [dh] VG+ 8 SOLD 60's 45s I. Showmen The Honey House WDJ Swan EX 8 2. Lee Rogers My one and only DJ D-Town M- 5 SOLD 3. Forrest Hairston We go to pieces Viney M- 10 4. Mandells True love is hard... WDJ Jubilee 10 5. Gladys Love O-Gee M- 15 SOLD 6. Lee Williams Lost Love [dh] Carnival EX 35 SOLD 7. Dee Dee Warwick When love slips away Mercury VG+ 8 SOLD 8. Radiants Baby you've got it [dh/sm. sticker on label] Chess M- 15 9. Dorothy Berry You better watch out Planetary M- 50 SOLD 10. Johnnie Mae Matthews Here comes my baby Blue Rock VG+ 5 11. Robert Moore Jo ann DJ De Luxe 20 [Good R&B tinged Northern] 12. Barbara Mercer Hey Golden World M- 5 13. Bobby Womack Tried and convicted EX 15 SOLD 14. Bobby Bland Yum Yum Tree Duke EX 12 15. Vic and Catalinas Talking about my girl Bar Clay M- 20 70's 45s 1. Voicemasters Dance right into... DJ Bamboo M- 30 SOLD 2. Joe Anderson You and I [l/s version DJ] EX 10 SOLD 3. Mystic Moods Astral Trip WDJ [red star on flip] WB EX 20 4. Bobby Sheen Something new to do WDJ WB M- 50 SOLD 5. Invitations Look on the good side Silver Blue M- 20 SOLD 6. Invitations They say the girl's crazy Silver Blue M- 20 7. Larry Saunders On the real side Turbo M- 40 SOLD 8. Betty Lavette You'll wake up wiser Atco VG+ 12 9. Jesse James If you want a love affair DJ 20th Century M- 35 SOLD 10. Dave Love Coalined Baby Solid Soul VG+ 10 11. Andre Scott Cryin' in the arms of another love [sm. damage to label at top] EX 15 12. Vaneese & Carolyn Goodbye Song {small black smudge on label] Polydor M- 100 13. Hesitations Is this the way to... GWP M- 30 SOLD Albums 1. Capitols Cool Jerk Atco EX 10 2. Vandellas Dancing in the street UK TMGSTML 11099 EX 10 Full guarantee with all purchases. Any problem please return for refund. Done my best to describe condition but can honestly say that all are in collectible condition with few flaws other than odd mark or slight wear from play. Thanks ROD

I'd get off your high horse if I were you. No one has come on to say Simon has ripped them off too. I don't know him at all All the guy wants to do is send you the 45 back for you to check it is the original or not, and hopefully prove it was the copy you sent. I see nowt wrong with that. If you were then sure it wasn't, you coulda just sent it back. I actually think you've been unhelpful and coulda sorted this a long time ago. Mike recently posted about dealings on SS and too many disputes of this kind undermine confidence for all of us IMO. I've only dealt with you the once and perfect transaction so Im not doing you down. Just surprised you can't see your responsibility in this. Despite your obvious anger I do think you're now doing the right thing. ROD

You wouldn't know an antirrhiinum from a myosotis!! I certainly can't remember seeing you at the Chelsea Flower Show in 1978. Your post is just a plant to divert attention from that rather unexpected contratemps that just broke out. Clare is seeing to the bulbs she bought recently. Most of them are on their last stems as far as I can see. ROD

Hey, I hope you're not including me in that. Didn't expect him to play carvers and only replied to James that I thought Parliaments sounded muffled compared to the rest of the stuff. I think in the context of the argument on SS between Ian and James, There was no sign of the 400 or whatever "newies". There was nothing new 60's wise to me and even though I know bugger-all about 70's only Impact, James Lovejoy and Latimore track were new too. You may be right that Ian didn't set out to showcase all new stuff but if I'd been at loggerheads with James and others I certainly would have done. That spot in a club with the odd tweak woulda suited me down to the ground. I think it came well within James' reflections on the current scene where there is no oldies V. Newies but just good records delivered by enthusiastic and passionate djs. ROD

Soulsations "Here comes the pain" on Ste-al. $125 on Moerer's list. Great record but bit slow for dance floor. So Chalky what's the score with Singleton track. Unissued or what? ROD

Yes Simon Im not doubting you. All Im saying is that for the independent reader it's hard to tell what went on. However I did say that those who know you will have made up their minds and those you've bought off on SS will also know they've had problem-free transactions with you so some suspicion can only fall on Marc which isn't good for him if he continues to sell 45s on here. The earlier date of posting also counters some of Marc's argument. A scan of package with date and illegible address would aid your case I guess. ROD