Solidsoul

Northern Soul Music is a genre. A catagorie of music. It doesn't matter who invented the tag Northern Soul, it describes a scene and a type of music! I don't think people like Elvis Presley and his contemporaries went into the studio and thought "I think I will make a record today to fit into a genre" They just went with the fashions in music of the time. What was selling and getting in the charts.

So now your saying Northern Soul doesn't exist! I always laugh when someone says Northern Soul isn't a genre!

Yes and all those genres you mention are a mix up of music from all over the place. Those genres you mention are just labels put to a certain music, and that's what Northern Soul Music is. The Northern Scene is the people, the venues, the fashion, the talk. Northern Soul Music is a genre (a category of music).

If you're into Northern Soul you know what it is. If your not a Northern Soul fan, you probably will never know!

O.v.o will be around a long time yet! Never underestimate the power of the super ego!☺ I suppose o.v.o holds things on an even keel. It keeps the novice totally inexperienced Tom, Dick and Harry from dj'ing at the big venues!

I Can't Hold On - Lorraine Chandler £520. Absolute Northern Soul classic, but it has never been particularly rare. Double it's usual price.

Yes I was going to say much the same. Knowing what and when to play them makes a great DJ, not just having the rarest records. The continuity of some dj's slots is a complete mix up. Experience is needed to do it properly.

I have enjoyed the records played by the DJ's already mentioned. A few more I did enjoy, but not sure if they still DJ, are Bob Hindsley and Mick H especially when he played his lesser know stuff in the DDA room in Lowton a few years back. I know Richard Searling is not top of the tree anymore, but he has great taste in Northern Soul and can still do a great spot.

It can't be, because it's me in my house😀!

"I Love You Always/ Years Of Tears" - The Rivingtons - V.J. Nice Mint- condition. £60. Classic Stafford era double sider. "Trusting In You" - Patti Labelle and the Bluebells. - Atlantic demo in Mint- condition. £30. Great version of the unreleased Fascinations track. "How Can I Say I'm Sorry" - Jimmy Ruffin - Soul. Mint- apart from drill hole. £20. Fabulous track and one of his best. "Do Something For Yourself" - Bobby Powell - Whit. Excellent conditon. £20. Totally underated dancer. Great stuff! "Take It Baby" - The Showmen - B.B. Excellent condition. One of their best. Sold. £3 for recorded delivery or £7 for Special delivery. Payment by paypal (friends & family) or bank transfer.

A long time ago when things were different, I was offered a Four Voices for £5. I regret I didn't take it because it had a few marks on it! Back in the day, you never knew what was going to prove rare, or turn up in quantity.

Sweet Sherry - J.J.Barnes Sheer quality, and that's something I don't get tired of!

My insurance company said my records are not a collection but a lot of individual items. They said it would only be a collection, if it would be less complete by taking one away. Like a pack of cards it would be no good if you took one away. I agreed that it would not matter, apart from the value, if you took ten away.

I had a copy of The Cavilers demo and it had the very same Stan Pat sticker on the label. He must have had several copies!

Some people like paying a lot of money for records. It's the only way they can feel they are buying something worth having! I suppose I'm lucky, I like the records enough to appreciate low price records just as much as the expensive ones!

Crossover was originally meant to describe Northern Soul records that could crossover into the new Modern Soul scene. These were usually newly discoverd 70's on even 80's records. Somebody once described crossover to me as "records that were made in the 1970's, but the production/arrangement belongs in the 1960's". As time goes by, the term has evolved to mean any midtempo soulful record that sounds later than 1970. Individual people will have different definitions on it!

Two fabulous double siders, "I Don't Want To Lose You Now" and "Just Be Sincere" Jackie Wilson - Brunswick. "Dearly Beloved" and "Do You Believe It" Jack Montgomery - Scepter.

More than I sold it for😕, £25. Soul Bowl had them for £3. John Anderson must have found a batch of them. I only bought it because of the Del Larks. Back then, it was a good obscure soul record that would not have been played in a venue. I thought I did well selling for a decent profit several years later! Shame I didn't have a crystal ball!

If you have the definite original record to compare with the suspected copy, you can usually tell the difference. The plastic they use now is different from the plastic used in the 60's and early 70's. They don't make plastic like that anymore. The print would have to be the same font/style and the paper quality the same. Just small markings can give them away. It's not as easy as it first appears, as collectors and dealers have been looking at these records for 50 years!

Interesting topic. You can collect originals without spending too much money. There are plenty of originals of great records still available. If i had to start again, I think I could put together a nice little collection for myself, without going bankrupt! It's different if you want to DJ with originals, then you might have to break the bank!

Ed, Those genre's you mention, "Ska, r & b, jazz, funk, disco, 60s soul, black and blue eyed" are not pure! Just like Northern Soul, they are each made up of a hodge podge/ mixture of music! I know Northern Soul music is selected from those genre's, and others. But that does not stop Northern Soul music becoming a genre of it's own, when it all comes together!

Dictionary explanation of a music Genre; "A style or category of music"!

I know fully well what you are saying, as I have been involved with Northern Soul for a long time. But times have moved on. I think in 2021 the Northern Soul scene has been established long enough, and matured enough, for it's music to be called a genre. I think you are right that we should agree to differ on this, just different view points.

Unfortunately yes. I cringed when they were first played, and still do now! But if you look into any genre of music, you will find great records and really bad one's.

The connection is they are both within the Northern Soul genre. This is because they have been accepted, on the dance floor, by the Northern Soul fraternity. The acceptance on the Northern Soul dance floor always has been, and should be the denominator of what is or isn't a Northern Soul record! (This is just a basic view, and there are records that should be played, but haven't had the chance yet. Also there are different styles of records within Northern Soul that the DJ needs to recognise, depending on what the people want at the event.)