The Yank

Problem solved- "If I Love You" is on the flip side of "Stop, Look, Listen, (To Your Heart) on AVCO #4572. You can also get it by Anthony and the Imperials on the other side of "Help Me Find A Way" on United Artists #50720.

CD 2- Garland Green is in the middle of the Rose Valentine 45, top right is probably Dean Courtney. CD 4- Sam Baker, Loleatta Holloway (from left to right) CD 7 - Charles Drain CD9- Little Ann (left side), Dave Hamilton is probably in the center circle CD 14- right side is Ruby Andrews CD 17- Jackie Washington, Charmels CD 19- top row- Fantastic Four, bottom middle is J.J. Barnes

I've got an original promo of "Have Love..." on vinyl. The Golden Tiger was a reissue label used by ERA records. It's probably from the late 60's/ early 70's.

There's another version by Maryann Farra and Satin Soul on Brunswick single #55533 and on her Brunswick album.

I think you have Ruby Winters mixed up with Ruby Andrews.

Here's a few more- Nigeria = TMN South Africa = TMS Greece = GTM Sweden = TMK Argentina = TMS

According to Terry Wilson's book "Tamla Motown- The Story Behind The U.K. Singles"- TMG stands for Tamla Motown Gordy .

My copy has the same info in the run out grooves. Hopefully, both are originals?

I've never heard about Ruth recording with the Moonglows- I know she worked with the Solitaires on Old Town.

There is some kind of a stamp but its so light I can't tell what it says.

I never noticed there was no "D.J. COPY NOT FOR SALE" until I looked at your copy.

I'm really glad you re-opened this thread. I got out my copy (which I always thought was legit) to compare it to yours and noticed a huge difference between your copy and mine. Now I'm having second thoughts about my copy. Can someone post the matrix details for a East Coast vinyl copy and remove this doubt ?? Thanks in advance !!!

I don't have the "There's A ..." 45. I vaguely remember hearing it a few times on the radio. From what I remember it was below average Disco.

I read somewhere (?) Fluffy was Lola's brother. Lola did record one 45 for RCA in '75 "There's A Man Out There Somewhere". I don't think the Cuba Gooding produced songs were ever released.

No big deal !

In the words of Van McCoy... "to each his own, that's my philosophy, I don't know whats right for you, you don't know what's right for me.........."

I might sound like a Chicago song to you but every time I hear the song, the first thing I think of is "Heatwave" by Martha and the Vandellas.

Here's another less obvious one- Porgy and the Monarchs- "That Girl". I know you're thinking that sounds nothing like a Motown record but compare it to the Downbeats unreleased "You Say You Love Me".

Here's a few more for the Motown Soundalikes list- Lillie Bryant- "Meet Me Halfway" Tina Britt- "The Real Thing" This next one isn't so obvious- Larry Atkins- "Ain't That Love Enough" sounds suspiciously like Brenda Holloway's unreleased "We'll Keep On Rolling"

There were Soulettes groups in Chicago and Detroit. Also at least 2 or 3 Sequins groups.

The Soul Train/ Solar group was Shalamar.

Here's a few more- Toys- "Lover's Concerto" Lorraine Chandler- "What Can I Do" Leon Haywood- "Baby Reconsider" Connie Clark- "My Sugar Baby"

There's at least 3 Velvets- the 50's Doo Wop group, the 60's group who recorded for Monument and the Northern group with the hyphen in its name- Vel-Vets. Lots of Brothers and Sisters too .

Here's a few more for the list- Specials (Marc)/ Specials ( Satch) and the Specials on Two Tone were all different groups and so were these- Reflections (Golden World) / Reflections (Capitol) Valentines (Rama)/ Valentines (Ludix) Valentines (Sound Stage 7) Avons (Hull) were a different group from the one who recorded on Excello and Sound Stage 7 And some quick trivia - the Royals (Detroit) changed their name to the Midnighters to avoid being confused with the Five Royales (Apollo) (who started out as the Royal Sons) who had recently signed to King.

I guess the Reflections on Golden World being the same group as the one on Tigre is one of those urban legends- whoever started it must not have checked their sources. I stand corrected.