Recently didn't win this Pal Rakes and The Prophets on ebay. Never made the link to Pal and The Prophets Peace Pipe until reminded of Can't Deny The Hurt when seen on ebay. Completely different sound but obvious link (Peace Pipe also written by P.Rakes).

In the days of instrumentals Peace Pipe picked up a few play but not for many years to these ears (with the exception of an early spot at Annesley one night!!)

Can't Deny The Hurt also on Uptight as Pal Rames.

Palmer Crawford Rakes. White Country singer from Florida, he once had a website or was a web page dedicated to him.

Didnt know there was an instrumental to this one.....Delxxxx

Thanks Chalky, didn't know that.

Recently didn't win this Pal Rakes and The Prophets on ebay. Never made the link to Pal and The Prophets Peace Pipe until reminded of Can't Deny The Hurt when seen on ebay. Completely different sound but obvious link (Peace Pipe also written by P.Rakes).

In the days of instrumentals Peace Pipe picked up a few play but not for many years to these ears (with the exception of an early spot at Annesley one night!!)

If I remember right Peace Pipe was played slowed down as Space Odysse by Luther Ingram . I think it was booted in that format as well .......Can anyone else confirm ?

What does Peace Pipe fetch these days anyway ?

If I remember right Peace Pipe was played slowed down as Space Odysse by Luther Ingram . I think it was booted in that format as well .......Can anyone else confirm ?

Star Odyssey actually . Booted on a green HIB label with gold print. Same tune each side.

whilst were at it here's the Uptight 45....

Thanks again for the great info. I do like the UPTIGHT scan.

What struck me to start this topic was the difference in style (hard to discuss acurate difference between vocals and instrumentals, but going on gut feeling to the sound) between the Jamie Pal and the Prophets, the Verve Pal Rakes and The Prophets and the Warner Bros Pal Rakes which is a much more obvious country sound. Hard to credit the same people, admire the variety though. Must admit the Star Odyssey HIB boot had completely passed me by, didn't know anyhting about that. Don't think I've ever seen or heard?

Must admit the Star Odyssey HIB boot had completely passed me by, didn't know anyhting about that. Don't think I've ever seen or heard?

Here you go

Thanks again for the great info. I do like the UPTIGHT scan.

What struck me to start this topic was the difference in style (hard to discuss acurate difference between vocals and instrumentals, but going on gut feeling to the sound) between the Jamie Pal and the Prophets, the Verve Pal Rakes and The Prophets and the Warner Bros Pal Rakes which is a much more obvious country sound. Hard to credit the same people, admire the variety though. Must admit the Star Odyssey HIB boot had completely passed me by, didn't know anyhting about that. Don't think I've ever seen or heard?

Dean,you can buy my copy on Uptight if you want.!!!.Its got "Old Shep" on the reverse....

Edited May 15, 201114 yr by KevH

Star Odyssey actually . Booted on a green HIB label with gold print. Same tune each side.

Nearly right then ! Was it 76 when this got done or earlier ?

Nearly right then ! Was it 76 when this got done or earlier ?

Much later - Stafford era

Dean,you can buy my copy on Uptight if you want.!!!.Its got "Old Shep" on the reverse....

Yeh, I'm sure I remember you playing the 'Old Shep' side out one night. . See you this week

If I remember right Peace Pipe was played slowed down as Space Odysse by Luther Ingram . I think it was booted in that format as well .......Can anyone else confirm ?

What does Peace Pipe fetch these days anyway ?

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peace pipe was a russ spin at wigan

fetches 15-20...

Much later - Stafford era

I remember Mick Smith playing it at a soul night in Bedford around 76 Pete (the slowed down version that is ) . Think John Vincent (or could be Ginger) used to play it at St Ives around that time as well - If it was played at Stafford it would have been 2nd time around

Richard Searling had an acetate with Eddie Parker - "I'm Gone" on one side and the slowed down version of Peace Pipe credited as "Star Odyssey" by Luther Ingram on the flip. It was uncovered pretty quickly.

I remember Mick Smith playing it at a soul night in Bedford around 76 Pete (the slowed down version that is ) . Think John Vincent (or could be Ginger) used to play it at St Ives around that time as well - If it was played at Stafford it would have been 2nd time around

I was replying as to when the bootleg was done

"Pal Rakes - Can't Deny The Hurt" was originally played as "Court davis" and I must admit it, there are similarities - good choice of cover up names - for a change! Pal Rakes was also involved in the Bill Harner rarity on Sound Gems.

Des Parker