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  • Gene you never cease to amaze me especially when you were the one out of us lot who got the majestics , we were all jealous dude

  •   Karl, you can still get a decent Garrard 4HF on Ebay occasionally.  I got mine from there 8 years ago for £55 (they're quite a bit more now), but had to pay over £300 to recondition it,

  • There is the other advantage of 78s, they have a monster sound unlike anything else. I could think of a few 45s that would sound incredible on 78.

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That , Sir is stunning .

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That , Sir is stunning .

 

Exactly.  Who'd have thought 78s were still pressed as late as 1967, let alone by someone like Desmond Dekker?

Is there any footage any where of 78's being made ? I've googled a couple of times and come up with nothing . Burning question now , is the plant needed to make 78's still in existence ? I was told at Leicester record fair once that 78's were still being produced in India and China ? any one confirm.

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Apparently, Sharmo, 78s were still being pressed in the Phillipines, Brazil and India as late as 1966 (maybe later, who knows?).

 

I don't know if this is of help.  Some of this video shows Prince Philip visiting Decca's pressing plant in 1957, and how 78s are pressed (I think).

 

PS - there's no sound with the film.

 

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/prince-philip-visits-decca-factories/query/joy

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Just can't understand why this even exists as a 78, six years after most countries stopped making them.

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Just can't understand why this even exists as a 78, six years after most countries stopped making them.

 

Apparently, the reason 78s were still being pressed in India in the mid-60s was to serve people in parts of the country which were poorly served by electricity, and had to still rely on portable wind-up gramophones.  I wonder if this was the same in other far Eastern and African countries?

Very strange gene how on earth did you find this

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Very strange gene how on earth did you find this

 

Karl, I post 78s and 45s on 45cat, and its sister site 78worlds, and whilst I was browsing the forum one day, I turned this up.  I couldn't believe what I was seeing!

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Gene you never cease to amaze me especially when you were the one out of us lot who got the majestics , we were all jealous dude

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Gene you never cease to amaze me especially when you were the one out of us lot who got the majestics , we were all jealous dude

 

Those were the days, Karl!  Glad you've got back in touch after nearly 30 years as well!   :thumbsup:

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Maybe to cater for those who only had 78 players Pete.

Some people still only have Black & white TVs but not for much longer!

 

78 only players?  What, from the 40's?

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78 only players?  What, from the 40's?

 

Countries like India were still producing portable gramophones well into the 1960s, like the one in the pic below.  I believe Thorens made the springs.  In fact, all the reproduction gramophones that sell over here on places like Ebay are still made in India today!

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I thought i was going back in time trying to get a garrard deck original sound man style

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I thought i was going back in time trying to get a garrard deck original sound man style

 

Karl, you can still get a decent Garrard 4HF on Ebay occasionally.  I got mine from there 8 years ago for £55 (they're quite a bit more now), but had to pay over £300 to recondition it, as some of the rubber flex was disintegrating, and it needed a greasing and general service.  I mounted it on an old Goldring GL75 plinth, and to this day it's still my main turntable at home (pic below).

 

As far as I know, Jah Shaka still uses one when he plays out.

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Goes to show there are some real gems out there.

Being a shaka ite thats exactly why i want one , trust you to have one bet you got a technic as well , seriously though thats beautiful dude , where did u get it revamped looks new

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Being a shaka ite thats exactly why i want one , trust you to have one bet you got a technic as well , seriously though thats beautiful dude , where did u get it revamped looks new

 

Visually, it was near perfect (bar a little tarnishing to the chrome arm), so that didn't need seeing to.  The technical maintenance was carried out by London Sound in Raynes Park, West London.

 

https://www.londonsound.org/

 

Never had a Technics turntable, though that would be my next weapon of choice!  What I love about the 4HF is that it has 4 speeds, which means it also plays 78s (ideal for my Vera Lynn collection! :lol: ).

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Apparently, Sharmo, 78s were still being pressed in the Phillipines, Brazil and India as late as 1966 (maybe later, who knows?).

 

I don't know if this is of help.  Some of this video shows Prince Philip visiting Decca's pressing plant in 1957, and how 78s are pressed (I think).

 

PS - there's no sound with the film.

 

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/prince-philip-visits-decca-factories/query/joy

That was interesting that chap smashing the ols 78's up didn't seemed bothered by a lot did he ? The machine with the rollers is a Banbury calendar and are still used today I think Quinvey on here used to work one at the old Wardle Storey's plant in Earby. thank You.

The Beatles 78's from India are worth a small fortune

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That was interesting that chap smashing the ols 78's up didn't seemed bothered by a lot did he ? 

 

They were obviously factory rejects, though at the same time I'd hate to think what future rarities would have been amongst that lot!

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The Beatles 78's from India are worth a small fortune

 

Yep - certainly in the higher three-figure sums.  Beatle 78s weren't just pressed in India though, but also in:

 

Argentina

https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/75202

 

Phillippines

https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/pal60263

 

Colombia

https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/nco300938

 

....and, of course, India

https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/r5084

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Visually, it was near perfect (bar a little tarnishing to the chrome arm), so that didn't need seeing to.  The technical maintenance was carried out by London Sound in Raynes Park, West London.

 

https://www.londonsound.org/

 

Never had a Technics turntable, though that would be my next weapon of choice!  What I love about the 4HF is that it has 4 speeds, which means it also plays 78s (ideal for my Vera Lynn collection! :lol: ).

 

 

Would love a garrad 4hf myself but they are silly money now a freind of mine builds period valve sounds systems and has garrards.

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Would love a garrad 4hf myself but they are silly money now a freind of mine builds period valve sounds systems and has garrards.

 

You can probably get a 4HF on Ebay in reasonable nick for about £150 without a plinth.  Obviously the Garrard 301 and 401 really do go for a king's ransom, but the 4HF does at least come with its own tonearm!

 

One here actually:  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GARRARD-4HF-H-IDLER-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-WORKING-/121253412240?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item1c3b443d90

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There is the other advantage of 78s, they have a monster sound unlike anything else.
I could think of a few 45s that would sound incredible on 78.

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There is the other advantage of 78s, they have a monster sound unlike anything else.

I could think of a few 45s that would sound incredible on 78.

 

Absolutely - due largely to both deep grooves and the fast speed they play at.

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