What's happened to valuations these days.

Not too long ago John Manships Book prices were tops. Mint plus a bit. Selling was JMs price less 20%

Now it looks like JMs price plus 20%

John's book needs updating as it's a while since the last edition was published. That said, what he actually sells records for is one price in comparison to eBay where prices fluctuate quite drastically at times. Because the soul market is so volatile at times with latest in-sounds being chased by a small number of highly competitive bidders, the latest price guide would be inaccurate within a few moths. Nevertheless, a new guide would be most welcome, especially a variation on the fifth edition complete with a bootleg catalogue and label scans.

the weight of the suggested book would be too much. 2.5 kg almost for 5th and poss 3 with the boot guide.  I know to import a book was the same price as the actual book 3 years ago, I actually ordered 35 to make it viable. you will probably see an app on the p.c. next.

Agree with you Tezza about prices at the moment.Seems like a lot of people just pluck daft sums out of the air at times and chance their luck that the buyer has more money than sense.It does appear to be worse now than normal with the usual 50 quid records being priced double the amount.Some of the dealers must have records unsold for years.

It's the solid gold big ticket records that are fetching the huge sums. I still believe that the majority are buying them to Dj with. It's the guaranteed floor fillers that everyone wants. Try selling most of the mid tempo / slow big ticket stuff and it's a real struggle.

 

A lot of the ones that fetch big money aren't even that rare, but everyone wants to own them. Supply and demand.

Personally I am of the opinion that a record is worth what you want to pay for it and not the price any guides say, the proof is that prices vary all over the place so who can really say what the real value is - except the buyer - feel free to shoot me down.

 

There's a lot of people that don't get that book prices are based on records in top condition, not VG+

Personally I am of the opinion that a record is worth what you want to pay for it and not the price any guides say, the proof is that prices vary all over the place so who can really say what the real value is - except the buyer - feel free to shoot me down.

You are absolutely spot on-and this is why the prices are generally so high!

 

Recession-what recession?

I think the worst is still to come for the perceived ott prices. Over the coming months there will be 1000's of  collectors or returnees who will be taking advantage of the new pension rules and will be determined to take probably  their last chance of owning that record that they have always wanted.

This is when we will see once and for all that prices are determined by buyers and not sellers.

I sometimes wonder if if there will be a market for rare soul once our generation have all shuffled off....

Personally I am of the opinion that a record is worth what you want to pay for it and not the price any guides say,

 

The record's worth what the individual with the deepest pockets is prepared to pay for it , not what you're prepared to pay .

The record's worth what the individual with the deepest pockets is prepared to pay for it , not what you're prepared to pay .

If an Auction is started and the price rockets off to an astronomical level then sobeit.  Trouble is that people are putting things on at a ridiculously high Starting Price or Buy It Now Price.  Make an enquiry about a record someone has for sale and they ask big monies.  Obviously not every record or every seller but it is starting to become the norm.