Came across this by accident on Ebay, i've got the other press which is white & red with a bell sound stamp in the run out 

This one has ARP & Bell Sound stamped in the run out 

Your thoughts would  be appreciated 

Kev 

On 27/10/2016 at 13:22, Kev John said:

Came across this by accident on Ebay, i've got the other press which is white & red with a bell sound stamp in the run out 

This one has ARP & Bell Sound stamped in the run out 

Your thoughts would  be appreciated 

Kev 

Had no response on this thread in 7yrs 

Just giving this a long awaited bump up.......!

Edited December 4, 20231 yr by Kev John

Most likely just a case of a different pressing plants done at the time of initial release. Slightly different typesetting on the red/black vs. white/red labels.

7 hours ago, Sebastian said:

Most likely just a case of a different pressing plants done at the time of initial release. Slightly different typesetting on the red/black vs. white/red labels.

Hi Sebastian

Showed it to a few collectors at our Beer And record  club none had seen a copy & 1 collector as most of the label releases on the label never seen a Red copy of the record 

Also no other Front Page releases had a full RED label only this realease !

Edited December 5, 20231 yr by Kev John

Added more info 

Agree with Sebastian. There's even 3 different pressing plants involved for their previous one so... But indeed I don't remember seing that all red variant press... Must be rarer some outside of Detroit and about at least.

Just like to trow this image out there with the date 11/2/1974 written on the label !

Is this just someone writing a date when they got it or could it be something about the date of release ?

or i'm clutching at straws......! 

Yet discogs put release circa 1970

Edited December 6, 20231 yr by Kev John

It is from 1970 or very early 1971. Was reviewed in Billboard Magazine in the January 9, 1971 issue.

The red/black variant is seemingly a whole lot rarer, but I can find two copies that have gone through ebay, is one of those yours?:

https://gripsweat.com/item/122134258864/northern-soul-the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-m-rare-red-1st-press

https://gripsweat.com/item/402760659091/victones-my-baby-changes-northern-soulsweet-soul-45-front-page-hear

3 hours ago, Sebastian said:

It is from 1970 or very early 1971. Was reviewed in Billboard Magazine in the January 9, 1971 issue.

The red/black variant is seemingly a whole lot rarer, but I can find two copies that have gone through ebay, is one of those yours?:

https://gripsweat.com/item/122134258864/northern-soul-the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-m-rare-red-1st-press

https://gripsweat.com/item/402760659091/victones-my-baby-changes-northern-soulsweet-soul-45-front-page-hear

The 2016 buy is mine Sebastion  that's why i quoted 1st press American seller quoted 1st 

Headbonedaddy was the seller 

5 hours ago, Kev John said:

Just like to trow this image out there with the date 11/2/1974 written on the label !

Is this just someone writing a date when they got it or could it be something about the date of release ?

or i'm clutching at straws......! 

Yet discogs put release circa 1970

45Cat.com place it December 1970 and Billboard mag feature it in it's January 9th 1971 edition (page 50)...

Bit more info 

The only  difference is the 2 record run outs  is the ARP stamp on the RED issue

All the etched info is exactly the same  & the Bell Sound  on both records in the same place between etched  info

 

Edited December 6, 20231 yr by Kev John

Here's another copy that sold in May 2015:

https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-1001-red-lbl-tempts-sound

 

So it was mastered and plated at Bell Sound.

Whichever pressing plant it was that pressed the red/white labelled release didn't add anything to the run-out grooves.

But when ARP pressed the red/black release, they used copies of the Bell Sound plated stamper and added their "ARP" stamp to the run-out grooves.

Edited December 7, 20231 yr by Sebastian

On 06/12/2023 at 10:13, Sebastian said:

It is from 1970 or very early 1971. Was reviewed in Billboard Magazine in the January 9, 1971 issue.

The red/black variant is seemingly a whole lot rarer, but I can find two copies that have gone through ebay, is one of those yours?:

https://gripsweat.com/item/122134258864/northern-soul-the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-m-rare-red-1st-press

https://gripsweat.com/item/402760659091/victones-my-baby-changes-northern-soulsweet-soul-45-front-page-hear

I think the 2021 Ebay sale is the one I bought. Seemed so cheap. 

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Edited December 7, 20231 yr by Kev John
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