Kev John Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Came across this by accident on Ebay, i've got the other press which is white & red with a bell sound stamp in the run out This one has ARP & Bell Sound stamped in the run out Your thoughts would be appreciated Kev Edited October 27, 2016 by Kev John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) On 27/10/2016 at 13:22, Kev John said: Came across this by accident on Ebay, i've got the other press which is white & red with a bell sound stamp in the run out This one has ARP & Bell Sound stamped in the run out Your thoughts would be appreciated Kev Had no response on this thread in 7yrs Just giving this a long awaited bump up.......! Edited December 4, 2023 by Kev John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Most likely just a case of a different pressing plants done at the time of initial release. Slightly different typesetting on the red/black vs. white/red labels. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sebastian said: Most likely just a case of a different pressing plants done at the time of initial release. Slightly different typesetting on the red/black vs. white/red labels. Hi Sebastian Showed it to a few collectors at our Beer And record club none had seen a copy & 1 collector as most of the label releases on the label never seen a Red copy of the record Also no other Front Page releases had a full RED label only this realease ! Edited December 5, 2023 by Kev John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 Added more info Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Agree with Sebastian. There's even 3 different pressing plants involved for their previous one so... But indeed I don't remember seing that all red variant press... Must be rarer some outside of Detroit and about at least. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) Just like to trow this image out there with the date 11/2/1974 written on the label ! Is this just someone writing a date when they got it or could it be something about the date of release ? or i'm clutching at straws......! Yet discogs put release circa 1970 Edited December 6, 2023 by Kev John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 It is from 1970 or very early 1971. Was reviewed in Billboard Magazine in the January 9, 1971 issue. The red/black variant is seemingly a whole lot rarer, but I can find two copies that have gone through ebay, is one of those yours?: https://gripsweat.com/item/122134258864/northern-soul-the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-m-rare-red-1st-press https://gripsweat.com/item/402760659091/victones-my-baby-changes-northern-soulsweet-soul-45-front-page-hear 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Sebastian said: It is from 1970 or very early 1971. Was reviewed in Billboard Magazine in the January 9, 1971 issue. The red/black variant is seemingly a whole lot rarer, but I can find two copies that have gone through ebay, is one of those yours?: https://gripsweat.com/item/122134258864/northern-soul-the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-m-rare-red-1st-press https://gripsweat.com/item/402760659091/victones-my-baby-changes-northern-soulsweet-soul-45-front-page-hear The 2016 buy is mine Sebastion that's why i quoted 1st press American seller quoted 1st Headbonedaddy was the seller Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Kev John said: Just like to trow this image out there with the date 11/2/1974 written on the label ! Is this just someone writing a date when they got it or could it be something about the date of release ? or i'm clutching at straws......! Yet discogs put release circa 1970 45Cat.com place it December 1970 and Billboard mag feature it in it's January 9th 1971 edition (page 50)... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) Bit more info The only difference is the 2 record run outs is the ARP stamp on the RED issue All the etched info is exactly the same & the Bell Sound on both records in the same place between etched info Edited December 6, 2023 by Kev John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Here's another copy that sold in May 2015: https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-1001-red-lbl-tempts-sound So it was mastered and plated at Bell Sound. Whichever pressing plant it was that pressed the red/white labelled release didn't add anything to the run-out grooves. But when ARP pressed the red/black release, they used copies of the Bell Sound plated stamper and added their "ARP" stamp to the run-out grooves. Edited December 7, 2023 by Sebastian 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Markw Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 06/12/2023 at 10:13, Sebastian said: It is from 1970 or very early 1971. Was reviewed in Billboard Magazine in the January 9, 1971 issue. The red/black variant is seemingly a whole lot rarer, but I can find two copies that have gone through ebay, is one of those yours?: https://gripsweat.com/item/122134258864/northern-soul-the-victones-my-baby-changes-front-page-m-rare-red-1st-press https://gripsweat.com/item/402760659091/victones-my-baby-changes-northern-soulsweet-soul-45-front-page-hear I think the 2021 Ebay sale is the one I bought. Seemed so cheap. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Deleted Edited December 7, 2023 by Kev John info not correct Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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