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Just a query but if Eddie Holman wrote the lyrics why is he not mentioned in credits on any of these labels?

& where does Harthon Music Publishing come into this as they are listed on the BMI data base as publishers for IWYTWOH &  Bird walkin  ?

 

1 hour ago, Triode said:

Just a query but if Eddie Holman wrote the lyrics why is he not mentioned in credits on any of these labels?

& where does Harthon Music Publishing come into this as they are listed on the BMI data base as publishers for IWYTWOH &  Bird walkin  ?

 

I’d like to see the original acetate…..

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4 hours ago, Triode said:

Just a query but if Eddie Holman wrote the lyrics why is he not mentioned in credits on any of these labels?

& where does Harthon Music Publishing come into this as they are listed on the BMI data base as publishers for IWYTWOH &  Bird walkin  ?

 

 

2 hours ago, Chalky said:

I’d like to see the original acetate…..

I have passed on above requests to the promo guy behind the info, who is in contact with both Hollis and his mum Shirley, see what happens...

10 hours ago, Triode said:

Just a query but if Eddie Holman wrote the lyrics why is he not mentioned in credits on any of these labels?

& where does Harthon Music Publishing come into this as they are listed on the BMI data base as publishers for IWYTWOH &  Bird walkin  ?

 

It's good to see the 'real' version getting a release .. as opposed to the 'edited' version that has been available previously

The same thought crossed my mind as the Library of Congess song registration records show the writers as below 

I WISH YOU THE WORLD OF HAPPINESS; w & m Eddie Holman & Saul Solomon (James Solomon) © Harthon Productions; 3Mar66; EU931585 ... it's not unusual to see songs registered some time after they were actually recorded

And I listened to my conversation with Shirley again who stated that she recorded the song on 19 Jan 65 .. she remembers it clearly because the next day was her 18th birthday 

Andy

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On 28/11/2023 at 12:04, Mike said:

 

I have passed on above requests to the promo guy behind the info, who is in contact with both Hollis and his mum Shirley, see what happens...

here's two images passed on from the promo team

on the credits etc question, here's the labels reply

 

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So they’re credited on the B label for the original. Of course this is the same for the cover version. 

We haven’t found any information at GEMA or BMI about the publisher (at least it’s not registered at GEMA): 

 

 

 

acetate-woh.jpgacetate-2.jpg

I never realised that first release was an edited version, so the Goldmine & Beatin Rhythm are the same ?

Ive always liked the “Harthon” sound as such & also like the totally new cover version.

hopefully the writing credits situation can be resolved👍

Yes it was edited ... it was 'chopped' about with bits moved around

Here's the BMI entry for the song

https://repertoire.bmi.com/Search/Search?SearchForm.View_Count=100&SearchForm.Main_Search=Title&SearchForm.Main_Search_Text=i+wish+you+the+world+of+happiness&SearchForm.Search_Type=all

I WISH YOU THE WORLD OF HAPPINESS 696359

HOLMAN EDDIE

SOLOMON JAMES CAUDWELL

Publishers HARTHON ENTERPRISES

... and a scan of the 8" acetate I got from Eddie Holman

Andy

 

World of happiness.jpg

Just listened to all three, and the Harthon 2000 release is indeed chopped around, and editied to be much longer (two inst breaks).

However the Beatin' Rhythm from 2012 and this new one both seem to be the same, just the new on being remastered and  slightly longer at the fade out.

Here's the Beatin' Rhythm for comparison.

Just noticed the full title has changed on the new one - "The World" becomes "A World".

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