Hi Guys!

Please, could somebody tell me, how to spot an original or an boot of: The Incredibles There's nothing else to say / Another dirty deal on the green Audio Arts label

Thanks,

Martin

Hi Guys!

Please, could somebody tell me, how to spot an original or an boot of: The Incredibles There's nothing else to say / Another dirty deal on the green Audio Arts label

Thanks,

Martin

According to JM's book, the original has a 4 turn run in groove and the boot a 2 turn run in.

Just checked mine, phew original ( and for sale)

Julian

According to JM's book, the original has a 4 turn run in groove and the boot a 2 turn run in.

Just checked mine, phew original ( and for sale)

Julian

Hi Martin

Originally on a Blue Label.

This Scan is from popsike.com, I think.

Pre, AMY Mala Bell Distribution Credit.

I have it on White DEMO and Green Stock Copy, AMY Mala Bell Distribution.

If you require any Deadwax Info I will have a look.

Here Is the BOOT, the first one I bought.

-----------* BOOT *

-Click On Label for Closer Look at the Label

-----------* BOOT *

Apart from the Run in Groove, The label has a Shiny but Rough embossed appearance.

A bit like the Johnny Moore BOOT on DATE. Almost like it is sprayed onto rough Vinyl.

Just looks wrong close up.

Edited August 21, 200816 yr by 45cellar

Thanks a lot, to both of you!

You're stars. Mine looks like an original than. So I'm very pleased...I have it so long, I couldn't remember in which circumstances I bought it, but everything is fine now.

Martin

Hi Martin

Originally on a Blue Label.

This Scan is from popsike.com, I think.

Pre, AMY Mala Bell Distribution Credit.

I have it on White DEMO and Green Stock Copy, AMY Mala Bell Distribution.

If you require any Deadwax Info I will have a look.

Here Is the BOOT, the first one I bought.

-----------* BOOT *

-----------* BOOT *

Apart from the Run in Groove, The label has a Shiny but Rough embossed appearance.

A bit like the Johnny Moore BOOT on DATE. Almost like it is sprayed onto rough Vinyl.

Just looks wrong close up.

Is the Blue copy the original west coast (L.A.) release, and the Green AMY MALA BELL copies the east coast distribution?

But both at the same original promotional time of the release.

Is the Blue copy the original west coast (L.A.) release, and the Green AMY MALA BELL copies the east coast distribution?

But both at the same original promotional time of the release.

I was under the Impression that the Blue copies WITHOUT Amy Mala Bell were the first for this release.

I seem to think there is a White DEMO without Amy Mala Bell Credits.

AMY Mala Bell then picking up the rights for National Distribution.

I would Imagine that regarding the time of Promotion there is little in it between the two.

I will check the Matrix on the other numbers.

Edited January 5, 200817 yr by 45cellar

ANY GOOD??

CHRIS

ANY GOOD??

CHRIS

It is actually, Is that a Monarch Press with Delta number I wonder.

Edited January 5, 200817 yr by 45cellar

It is actually, Is that a Monarch Press with Delta number.

Is the Blue copy the original west coast (L.A.) release, and the Green AMY MALA BELL copies the east coast distribution?

But both at the same original promotional time of the release.

The Earlier Audio Arts is a Monarch Delta

Being a West Coast Label, the Blue Label copies that I have are all Monarch Press.

I do see your point, and I'm wondering if the change came about when Picked up by Amy Mala Bell and Distributed Nationally.

Further Evidence of Vinyl Monarch Delta # Later in the Label, which is no surprise as it is a West Coast Label.

Edited January 5, 200817 yr by 45cellar

I was under the Impression that the Blue copies WITHOUT Amy Mala Bell were the first for this release.

I seem to think there is a White DEMO without Amy Mala Bell Credits.

AMY Mala Bell then picking up the rights for National Distribution.

I would Imagine that regarding the time of Promotion there is little in it between the two.

I will check the Matrix on the other numbers.

I've just acquired a copy, West Coast Monarch Delta.

Without the AMY Mala Bell Credits

-----------* BOOT *

-----------* BOOT *

Apart from the Run in Groove, The label has a Shiny but Rough embossed appearance.

A bit like the Johnny Moore BOOT on DATE. Almost like it is sprayed onto rough Vinyl.

Just looks wrong close up.

So what do we make of this one? 4 turns in the run-in, great sound quality, handwritten 7078 and 7079 in the run-out grooves, but looks like the scan of the bootleg. This copy has got the same kind of "watery" colouring as for example the AMY/MALA/BELL distributed Tou-Sea label (if you pour water on the label, the colour will come off... I did that with a copy of Mill Evans once... ).

So what do we make of this one? 4 turns in the run-in, great sound quality, handwritten 7078 and 7079 in the run-out grooves, but looks like the scan of the bootleg. This copy has got the same kind of "watery" colouring as for example the AMY/MALA/BELL distributed Tou-Sea label (if you pour water on the label, the colour will come off... I did that with a copy of Mill Evans once... ).

Your copy does look OK. Just the Darker Green Label Variation that was used for the Boot

---------------------------* THIS IS THE BOOT, ROUGH VINYL UNDER THE LABEL *

---------------------------* THIS IS THE BOOT, ROUGH VINYL UNDER THE LABEL *

Your copy does look OK. Just the Darker Green Label Variation that was used for the Boot

---------------------------* THIS IS THE BOOT, ROUGH VINYL UNDER THE LABEL *

---------------------------* THIS IS THE BOOT, ROUGH VINYL UNDER THE LABEL *

Great pictures, I can see the rough texture like the Johnny Moore boots! Maybe done at the same time?! Early 70's.

Hi Martin

Originally on a Blue Label.

This Scan is from popsike.com, I think.

Pre, AMY Mala Bell Distribution Credit.

I have it on White DEMO and Green Stock Copy, AMY Mala Bell Distribution.

If you require any Deadwax Info I will have a look.

Here Is the BOOT, the first one I bought.

-----------* BOOT *

-Click On Label for Closer Look at the Label

-----------* BOOT *

Apart from the Run in Groove, The label has a Shiny but Rough embossed appearance.

A bit like the Johnny Moore BOOT on DATE. Almost like it is sprayed onto rough Vinyl.

Just looks wrong close up.

What a coincidence, I was just about to ask the same question :

I have just bought this, I thought it was a boot, it has 4 turn run in and 7078 & 7079 scratched

in run-out. So I guess this is an original, I have always had the blue copies before. Thanks

Chris L

What a coincidence, I was just about to ask the same question :

I have just bought this, I thought it was a boot, it has 4 turn run in and 7078 & 7079 scratched

in run-out. So I guess this is an original, I have always had the blue copies before. Thanks

Chris L

Perfectly OK, Just a Label Variation & possibly a later batch. looking at the Title

(The AMY Mala Bell White DEMO & The Light Green Stock Copy I bought from Soul Bowl in the 1970's).

Some Stock Copies are Dark Green like the copy Sebastian has.

The first Pre AMY Mala Bell - Blue Label has the Harder to find White DEMO (Styrene Monarch)

I have only just obtained this DEMO (Yesterday 21-08-08) Following years of searching.

Edited August 22, 200816 yr by 45cellar

Great pictures, I can see the rough texture like the Johnny Moore boots! Maybe done at the same time?! Early 70's.

Thanks Mate, Regarding Pictures, (It was trial and error), difficult to capture on a Photograph.

I believe that they were done around the Same time.

I know that I bought them together, from the same Source.

Roger you never cease to amaze me, your replys are brilliant, think you deserve a medal you allways go that extra mile, the photos are just fantastic.

and no I dont want to marry you

Roger you never cease to amaze me, your replys are brilliant, think you deserve a medal you allways go that extra mile, the photos are just fantastic.

and no I dont want to marry you

Hi Miff

Thanks Mate.

We bought a decent Scanner last year & I borrow my Daughters 10.1 Mega Pixel Camera.

Even using a combination of the two.

Some of the Matrix Details are virtually Impossible to capture.

nearly on topic - but The Incredibles "Stop the raindrops" is a mostly excellent record

nearly on topic - but The Incredibles "Stop the raindrops" is a mostly excellent record

Hi Dave

I agree, I'm looking to find a copy as funds allow.

I am trying for all of The Incredibles Stuff on Audio Arts!

This one arrived this morning.

Edited August 22, 200816 yr by 45cellar

Hi Dave

I agree, I'm looking to find a copy as funds allow.

I am trying for all of The Incredibles Stuff on Audio Arts!

This one arrived this morning.

Coincidently, 'Fool, Fool, Fool' is the flip to 'Stop the Raindrops'

I am just about to PM you...

Coincidently, 'Fool, Fool, Fool' is the flip to 'Stop the Raindrops'

I am just about to PM you...

Hi Dave

Thanks Mate.

I'm not too sure why "FOOL, FOOL FOOL" on two different Numbers.

Same happens with "ALL OF A SUDDEN"

nearly on topic - but The Incredibles "Stop the raindrops" is a mostly excellent record

Tidy tune'used to be in me play box 20+ years ago,bit slo' for up north tho'

Tidy tune'used to be in me play box 20+ years ago,bit slo' for up north tho'

Ken - you make me laugh mate

Just to recap, Has Anyone seen a DEMO for the Light Green Version with Title Spread over 2 Lines.

No problem regarding it's authenticity just wondering.

I have these so far for the next Release 60,007. (Think there is a Multi-Coloured Copy) -

Not sure if there is a Light Green Label Variation for this one.

Edited December 19, 200816 yr by 45cellar

Incredibly Remarkable

Incredibly Remarkable

They certainly had a Theme going with these names

Lived up to it though.

Is the Blue copy the original west coast (L.A.) release, and the Green AMY MALA BELL copies the east coast distribution?

But both at the same original promotional time of the release.

I was under the Impression that the Blue copies WITHOUT Amy Mala Bell were the first for this release.

I seem to think there is a White DEMO without Amy Mala Bell Credits.

AMY Mala Bell then picking up the rights for National Distribution.

I would Imagine that regarding the time of Promotion there is little in it between the two.

I will check the Matrix on the other numbers.

------------------STYRENE -------------------------------------VINYL

Styrene - Blue Label Stock Copy--Vinyl - Green Label Stock Copy

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I Keep Picking Up Both Types Of DEMO, Without Distribution Credit West Coast (L.A.)

& AMY, MALA BELL Distribution On The Release Numbers Through To 60009

Further Evidence Which Suggests To Me That We Are On The Correct Track Regarding This Label.

AMY MALA BELL Picked Up Distribution For National / East Coast From The West Coast Label.

Therefore, A Local Label & National Distribution During This Period.

AMY MALA BELL Then Disappears From The Credits. (Multicoloured Label) 60010

Multicoloured Label Also Used For Re-Issued Pre 60010 Numbers.

Edited August 28, 200915 yr by 45cellar

STYRENE (Monarch)

VINYL

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