Posted April 24, 200817 yr Someone has just lent me this Goldmine Soul Supply CD. I wasn't sure what to expect. However, I was pleasantly suprised and am hooked on playing the excellent; I'm Standing In The Shadows....The Five Royales, Gee What A Girl....The Persians, My Baby Doesn't Love Me Anymore....The Travelers, and Love Will Break Your Heart....The Starfires. I'm sure lots on here have the CD. What are your views of this compilation? Are any of these getting an airing anywhere? Being computer dumb I am unable to post up sound clips of these records so if someone could kindly oblige. KTF. Drew.
April 24, 200817 yr I too am a fan. Not heard the particular track mentioned by The Persians, but check out another of theirs if you can, WHEN YOU SAID LET'S GET MARRIED. Bought one by The Cleftones a few months back called Heart and Soul and quite like stuff by The Orlons too. I'd certainly like to hear more of this kinda stuff!!!
April 24, 200817 yr Both sides of the Persians are good, got the record but not the technology to post a clip, played it last month at our venue. Come and give a go if you like that sort of stuff Also got a number of others that are on the CD You should also try "there she goes" by the Cleftones on Gee or "you'd be crying too" by the Matadors I've also just got a cracker by the Butanes on Enrica and another by the Clusters on Tee Gee Steve
April 24, 200817 yr Author The Persians track is cracking Jobbo/ Steve. Any one else able to post sound clips of the others I mentioned? Or alternatively, anyone willing to PM me an idiots guide to how I can play the CD on ITunes and then transfer onto here and then turn it into the format the site prefers etc? KTF. Drew. Edited April 24, 200817 yr by Drew3
April 24, 200817 yr I've also just got a cracker by the Butanes on Enrica Steve got 'don't forget i love you' by the butanes........ great 'rockin' doo wop/soul/RnB
April 24, 200817 yr Love this kinda stuff, i've got a cd by The Volumes, from "doo-wop" to "northern soul", it's got 'I just can't help myself', one way lover', 'my road is the right road', you put a spell on me', a fantastic ballad 'a way to love you' and many more great tune's. I recommend this Drew. The cd is Chex Records crcd-1002 Willie Edited April 24, 200817 yr by Soulgrit
April 24, 200817 yr got 'don't forget i love you' by the butanes........ great 'rockin' doo wop/soul/RnB Yep thats the one, cracking tune
April 24, 200817 yr The Persians track is cracking Jobbo/ Steve. Any one else able to post sound clips of the others I mentioned? Or alternatively, anyone willing to PM me an idiots guide to how I can play the CD on ITunes and then transfer onto here and then turn it into the format the site prefers etc? KTF. Drew. Will certainly be looking up all the tunes mentioned on this topic. Cheers everybody!!!
April 24, 200817 yr Will certainly be looking up all the tunes mentioned on this topic. Cheers everybody!!! try The Drivers - I get weak [RCA] Rays - Elevator Operator [XYZ] The Valiants - Walkin Girl [Ensign]..... think it came out on another label too, the name of which escapes me at the mo' loads of good doo wop/soul dancers by 5 royales on King Kev.C.
April 24, 200817 yr A great example IMO is Escorts - You Can't Even Be My Friend, RCA (it's on Refosoul here), with its backing vocal of ShooBopDeBop. Alan
April 24, 200817 yr Rufus Wonder - Under the moon Skyliners - Everythings alright a couple that spring to mind Derek
April 25, 200817 yr Someone has just lent me this Goldmine Soul Supply CD. I wasn't sure what to expect. However, I was pleasantly suprised and am hooked on playing the excellent; I'm Standing In The Shadows....The Five Royales, Gee What A Girl....The Persians, My Baby Doesn't Love Me Anymore....The Travelers, and Love Will Break Your Heart....The Starfires. I'm sure lots on here have the CD. What are your views of this compilation? Are any of these getting an airing anywhere? Being computer dumb I am unable to post up sound clips of these records so if someone could kindly oblige. KTF. Drew. One of the great DooWop records for me , is " The Girl I Love " by The Cadillacs ........ Despite it being labelled as a DooWop record , it has a swaying / haunting ( especially the opening trumpet introduction ) rhythm backing , which , in the light of many records that have been / are being played with a similar " beat " , could do the business if given the exposure ......... I have been very tempted to give this a spin when I play a venue ; perhaps I should , and damn the torpedoes ........... Malc Burton Edited April 25, 200817 yr by Malc Burton
April 25, 200817 yr My faves :- Linda & Pretenders - Believe Me Peppers - Little Piece of Paper ...........cant think of anymore
April 25, 200817 yr Don´t forget: Four Chaps - True lovers - Co & Ce Listen in: https://www.soul-source.co.uk/rare-northern...s-true-lovers-0
April 25, 200817 yr Author Don´t forget: Four Chaps - True lovers - Co & Ce Listen in: https://www.soul-source.co.uk/rare-northern...s-true-lovers-0 Awesome!!! Don't care what its label is meant to be that is cracking mid-tempo soul to me and it would certainly have me on the dance floor if heard out!!! More please, more (with sound clips). KTF. Drew. Edited April 25, 200817 yr by Drew3
April 25, 200817 yr The last year received in a lot this song, espectacular (for me) Dubs - Just you - Wilshire https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/96653/DUBS
April 25, 200817 yr Author One of the great DooWop records for me , is " The Girl I Love " by The Cadillacs ........ Despite it being labelled as a DooWop record , it has a swaying / haunting ( especially the opening trumpet introduction ) rhythm backing , which , in the light of many records that have been / are being played with a similar " beat " , could do the business if given the exposure ......... I have been very tempted to give this a spin when I play a venue ; perhaps I should , and damn the torpedoes ........... Malc Burton Any chance of a sound clip Malc or would that knacker-up you giving it an airing at a do? KTF. Drew.
April 25, 200817 yr Any chance of a sound clip Malc or would that knacker-up you giving it an airing at a do? KTF. Drew. Bear with me , and I will give it a try to put a sound clip on ........ The Cadillacs - The Girl I Love ( Jamie ) Apologies it is only a part of it ....... Malc BurtonThe_Girl_I_Love.mp3
April 25, 200817 yr A couple of genuine doo-wop records that have been played on the scene are: The Delcos - Arabia (Showcase) The Drapers - Your Love Has Gone Away (Gee) ...and I've always thought that any DJ with a flair for the adventurous should play: Shep and the Limelites - Everything Is Gonna Be All Right (Hull) The Turbans - Three Friends (Roulette) The Temptations - Paradise (Gordy) ...and probably a few more that will come to mind later...
April 25, 200817 yr Someone has just lent me this Goldmine Soul Supply CD. I wasn't sure what to expect. However, I was pleasantly suprised and am hooked on playing the excellent; I'm Standing In The Shadows....The Five Royales, Gee What A Girl....The Persians, My Baby Doesn't Love Me Anymore....The Travelers, and Love Will Break Your Heart....The Starfires. I'm sure lots on here have the CD. What are your views of this compilation? Are any of these getting an airing anywhere? Being computer dumb I am unable to post up sound clips of these records so if someone could kindly oblige. KTF. Drew. Attached (hopefully), The Persians track. Andy
April 25, 200817 yr Don´t forget: Four Chaps - True lovers - Co & Ce Listen in: https://www.soul-source.co.uk/rare-northern...s-true-lovers-0 Nice tune Bazza
April 25, 200817 yr A cracking example of early group soul is the "Ensenadas - On And On - Tarx" Des Parker
April 25, 200817 yr A cracking example of early group soul is the "Ensenadas - On And On - Tarx" Des Parker don't forget the imperial c's and the empires both storming doowop based northern greats. Regards H (SOULSTER22)
April 25, 200817 yr Author Attached (hopefully), The Persians track. Andy Excellent Andy. Out of the four I mentioned I think this is my favourite. KTF. Drew.
April 25, 200817 yr Author A couple of genuine doo-wop records that have been played on the scene are: The Delcos - Arabia (Showcase) The Drapers - Your Love Has Gone Away (Gee) ...and I've always thought that any DJ with a flair for the adventurous should play: Shep and the Limelites - Everything Is Gonna Be All Right (Hull) The Turbans - Three Friends (Roulette) The Temptations - Paradise (Gordy) ...and probably a few more that will come to mind later... I am familiar with the Drapers tune and Paradise by the Temptations Tony and just listened to The Delcos on TSCJB. For the benefit of this know nowt Tony what do you mean by genuine Doo Wop records? KTF. Drew.
April 25, 200817 yr A cracking example of early group soul is the "Ensenadas - On And On - Tarx" Des Parker Spot on.
April 25, 200817 yr Author A cracking example of early group soul is the "Ensenadas - On And On - Tarx" Des Parker Sound clip please if possible. KTF. Drew.
April 25, 200817 yr Attached (hopefully), The Persians track. Andy What an absolute corker!!! Cheers for that hun!!
April 25, 200817 yr got to be two of the best of this genre:ceasers- la la i love you, commands-hey its love/no time for love. lets add the pentagons-until then. and lets add lee andrews and the hearts.
April 25, 200817 yr got to be two of the best of this genre:ceasers- la la i love you, commands-hey its love/no time for love. lets add the pentagons-until then. and lets add lee andrews and the hearts. Two great bands & tunes...but thats are (in my opinion) Harmony/vocal bands but no doo woop... Sorry for my bad english & Cheers!!
April 26, 200817 yr ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS ONE TOO !!! Thanks for the comments jobbo, try the clip below Andy
April 26, 200817 yr I too am a fan. Not heard the particular track mentioned by The Persians, but check out another of theirs if you can, WHEN YOU SAID LET'S GET MARRIED. Bought one by The Cleftones a few months back called Heart and Soul and quite like stuff by The Orlons too. I'd certainly like to hear more of this kinda stuff!!! Hi Carole heres another for ya again the fabulous PERSIANS - GEE WHAT A GIRL absolutely brilliant and this thread wouldnt be complete without VAN TREVOR - FLING OF THE PAST totally feel good tunes lv DOO WOP DI ooops sorry someone else mentioned gee what a girl Edited April 26, 200817 yr by Guest
April 26, 200817 yr Hi great thread, i've got a cd with the Upfronts on, but dont know how to put them on a sound clip, has any one got any sound clips. Willie
April 26, 200817 yr Author Hi Carole heres another for ya again the fabulous PERSIANS - GEE WHAT A GIRL absolutely brilliant and this thread wouldnt be complete without VAN TREVOR - FLING OF THE PAST totally feel good tunes lv DOO WOP DI ooops sorry someone else mentioned gee what a girl Gee What A Girl, absolutely awesome record. This tune would surely go down a storm played out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KTF. Drew.
April 26, 200817 yr best doowop meets soul tune i,ve heard has to be the five chances-stranger i love you-finch records its in refosoul somewhere i posted it a while ago.....
April 26, 200817 yr Kenny Gamble's version of Standing in the shadows is one of my personal favourites, It costs a fortune to get a copy though, There are some excellent Doo Wop records which in my opinion go great with Northern Soul. I also love Billy Keene's Finally got wise On galaxy records. Dan
April 26, 200817 yr Gee What A Girl, absolutely awesome record. This tune would surely go down a storm played out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KTF. Drew. Hi Drew i've played it out a few times got good feedback and will be playing next sun night in york so come along love the persians and WHEN YOU SAID LETS GET MARRIED is an anthem at the do we run luv Di xxx
April 26, 200817 yr ooh, ooh, ooh..... Freddy Scott Brand new world Colpix. Marcels Give me back your love Colpix Creations Lady Luck Take Ten Cleftones Do You Gee Radiants Please don't leave me baby Chess Otis Williams and the Charms In Paradise De-Luxe Artistics What'll I do Okeh Don Day Curtis Don't talk about me baby Abc/para Dynamics Moonlight Impala Vito and the Salutations EEnie Meenie Herald Utopians Dutch treat Imperial Wanderers A little too long Cub Some others, for you to be going on with!!!! All a little doo woppy their. Also second what Longy listed(Steve) and that if you're liking your Doo Wop tilt....there are plenty of early soulful recordings that aren't neccessarily doo woppy...for example Turbans The damage is done herald Wanderers Somebody elses sweetheart Cub Sidney Barnes Wait Gemini Chuck Wright Love, i won't be your fool anymore Ember Erma Franklyn It's over Epic....What Kind of Girl!! too. What a fantastic music we Love...all the early soul is where it's goin on for me...the depth in variety of mood and feel you can squaller in( JUST LIKE THE PREVERBIAL PIG) Its all being found/re-activated and played down at the Soulful Shack in Culcheth. We're not the same old same old!!!
April 27, 200817 yr best doowop meets soul tune i,ve heard has to be the five chances-stranger i love you-finch records its in refosoul somewhere i posted it a while ago..... Top top tune and very rare, after to agree with you Cenco best doo wop meets soul 45 I have ever heard, other side is good also, "I'll Miss You (When You're Gone)", I reviewed this record a few years ago in Martyn Bradley's Soul Renaissance mag, 2005 I think, time to review it again with a sound clip. Andy
April 27, 200817 yr best doowop meets soul tune i,ve heard has to be the five chances-stranger i love you-finch records its in refosoul somewhere i posted it a while ago..... Top tune Steve/Andy . Willie Edited April 27, 200817 yr by Soulgrit
April 27, 200817 yr Hi Carole heres another for ya again the fabulous PERSIANS - GEE WHAT A GIRL absolutely brilliant and this thread wouldnt be complete without VAN TREVOR - FLING OF THE PAST totally feel good tunes lv DOO WOP DI ooops sorry someone else mentioned gee what a girl Hiya hun I'll certainly check this one out and let you know what I think. I wouldn't have heard When You Said Let's Get Married if it hadn't been for you. Big fan of the Van Trevor one too. As you know I'm a 100 miles an hour type of gal (even though I'm having trouble keeping up with 'em these days, lol) but if I do listen to slow ones they do seem to be along the Do-Wop lines. Only trouble is, some of them are so sentimental they bring a lump to my throat!!! Maybe I'm a soppy old sod deep down, lol!!!! Take Care xx
April 27, 200817 yr Author Hi Drew i've played it out a few times got good feedback and will be playing next sun night in york so come along love the persians and WHEN YOU SAID LETS GET MARRIED is an anthem at the do we run luv Di xxx York's a bit far for a Sunday night Di but I would love to hear Gee What A Girl played out. Any chance of a sound clip of WYSLGM? KTF. Drew.
April 27, 200817 yr I dunno, Drew, in answer to your question - I suppose that my idea of 'genuine' doo-wop would be group records that hark back in style to an earlier era of rhythm & blues rather than ones that try to anticipate soul. So "Paradise" by the Temptations, from 1962, would be genuine doo wop, whereas their next Gordy release, the excellent "Farewell My Love" from 1963, is on the cusp of what would become the classic Temptations soul group harmony style. Likewise "Arabia" is a hangover from the 1950s, albeit with a crunching dance beat. And something like the Drapers' "Your Love Has Gone Away" pays homage to the old Drifters sound of the late 50s (cf. "There Goes My Baby", "Oh My Love", "Sometimes I Wonder") while at the same time dipping a toe into what the group would do next with "I Count The Tears" and "Save The Last Dance For Me". (the Drapers were former members of the Drifters, BTW and in case you didn't know...) Most doo-wop collectors would tell you that doo-wop had more or less ended by the end of 1962, and that's when soul came in full time. Some doo-woppers hung in there and adapted - for instance, Vito and the Salutations, Shep and the Limelites and, of course, Lee Andrews and the Hearts all made the musical leap with ease, even though they didn't get any hit records in the 'new' format. Some of the records and groups mentioned here are indeed 'doo-wop meets northern soul' - many others are not, including, I'd have to say, more than half of those mentioned by Posstot (sorry, mate...). Doo-wop's 'first law' is that if a record is by a solo artist and it doesn't have a group vocal accompaniment, it's not doo-wop - but that doesn't mean that every group record made before or around the turn of the 60s IS doo-wop, either. For example, never in a million years would I consider my beloved '5' Royales to be a doo wop group - they came straight from the church, whereas most doo-wop groups did not come via gospel, and took the likes of the Ink Spots and the Mills Brothers as their inspiration instead. Doo-wop or not, though, the Royales are - IMO - the greatest soul vocal group of all time!. It's all a matter of personal taste, I suppose. The bottom line in judging whether a record is doo-wop or not would probably be that - to meet the criteria of this thread's title, at least - a record would have to have sounded dated by early 1964. This probably doesn't help, but I enjoyed mouthing off anyway!
April 27, 200817 yr Author I dunno, Drew, in answer to your question - I suppose that my idea of 'genuine' doo-wop would be group records that hark back in style to an earlier era of rhythm & blues rather than ones that try to anticipate soul. So "Paradise" by the Temptations, from 1962, would be genuine doo wop, whereas their next Gordy release, the excellent "Farewell My Love" from 1963, is on the cusp of what would become the classic Temptations soul group harmony style. Likewise "Arabia" is a hangover from the 1950s, albeit with a crunching dance beat. And something like the Drapers' "Your Love Has Gone Away" pays homage to the old Drifters sound of the late 50s (cf. "There Goes My Baby", "Oh My Love", "Sometimes I Wonder") while at the same time dipping a toe into what the group would do next with "I Count The Tears" and "Save The Last Dance For Me". (the Drapers were former members of the Drifters, BTW and in case you didn't know...) Most doo-wop collectors would tell you that doo-wop had more or less ended by the end of 1962, and that's when soul came in full time. Some doo-woppers hung in there and adapted - for instance, Vito and the Salutations, Shep and the Limelites and, of course, Lee Andrews and the Hearts all made the musical leap with ease, even though they didn't get any hit records in the 'new' format. Some of the records and groups mentioned here are indeed 'doo-wop meets northern soul' - many others are not, including, I'd have to say, more than half of those mentioned by Posstot (sorry, mate...). Doo-wop's 'first law' is that if a record is by a solo artist and it doesn't have a group vocal accompaniment, it's not doo-wop - but that doesn't mean that every group record made before or around the turn of the 60s IS doo-wop, either. For example, never in a million years would I consider my beloved '5' Royales to be a doo wop group - they came straight from the church, whereas most doo-wop groups did not come via gospel, and took the likes of the Ink Spots and the Mills Brothers as their inspiration instead. Doo-wop or not, though, the Royales are - IMO - the greatest soul vocal group of all time!. It's all a matter of personal taste, I suppose. The bottom line in judging whether a record is doo-wop or not would probably be that - to meet the criteria of this thread's title, at least - a record would have to have sounded dated by early 1964. This probably doesn't help, but I enjoyed mouthing off anyway! Respect! KTF. Drew.
April 27, 200817 yr I dunno, Drew, in answer to your question - I suppose that my idea of 'genuine' doo-wop would be group records that hark back in style to an earlier era of rhythm & blues rather than ones that try to anticipate soul. So "Paradise" by the Temptations, from 1962, would be genuine doo wop, whereas their next Gordy release, the excellent "Farewell My Love" from 1963, is on the cusp of what would become the classic Temptations soul group harmony style. Likewise "Arabia" is a hangover from the 1950s, albeit with a crunching dance beat. And something like the Drapers' "Your Love Has Gone Away" pays homage to the old Drifters sound of the late 50s (cf. "There Goes My Baby", "Oh My Love", "Sometimes I Wonder") while at the same time dipping a toe into what the group would do next with "I Count The Tears" and "Save The Last Dance For Me". (the Drapers were former members of the Drifters, BTW and in case you didn't know...) Most doo-wop collectors would tell you that doo-wop had more or less ended by the end of 1962, and that's when soul came in full time. Some doo-woppers hung in there and adapted - for instance, Vito and the Salutations, Shep and the Limelites and, of course, Lee Andrews and the Hearts all made the musical leap with ease, even though they didn't get any hit records in the 'new' format. Some of the records and groups mentioned here are indeed 'doo-wop meets northern soul' - many others are not, including, I'd have to say, more than half of those mentioned by Posstot (sorry, mate...). Doo-wop's 'first law' is that if a record is by a solo artist and it doesn't have a group vocal accompaniment, it's not doo-wop - but that doesn't mean that every group record made before or around the turn of the 60s IS doo-wop, either. For example, never in a million years would I consider my beloved '5' Royales to be a doo wop group - they came straight from the church, whereas most doo-wop groups did not come via gospel, and took the likes of the Ink Spots and the Mills Brothers as their inspiration instead. Doo-wop or not, though, the Royales are - IMO - the greatest soul vocal group of all time!. It's all a matter of personal taste, I suppose. The bottom line in judging whether a record is doo-wop or not would probably be that - to meet the criteria of this thread's title, at least - a record would have to have sounded dated by early 1964. This probably doesn't help, but I enjoyed mouthing off anyway! Brilliant post Tony. Willie
Someone has just lent me this Goldmine Soul Supply CD.
I wasn't sure what to expect.
However, I was pleasantly suprised and am hooked on playing the excellent;
I'm Standing In The Shadows....The Five Royales,
Gee What A Girl....The Persians,
My Baby Doesn't Love Me Anymore....The Travelers,
and
Love Will Break Your Heart....The Starfires.
I'm sure lots on here have the CD. What are your views of this compilation?
Are any of these getting an airing anywhere?
Being computer dumb I am unable to post up sound clips of these records so if someone could kindly oblige.
KTF.
Drew.