Hi Y'all,

Soul Twins - Quick change artist, has this been booted on the Karen lable, how do you tell the difference?

Many thanks in advance

Simon

Supposedly a legal reissue from 72/73. All blue label, no silver lines across it.

Supposedly a legal reissue from 72/73. All blue label, no silver lines across it.

Thanks Pete, tis what i have in front of me, worth anything?

Simon

Supposedly a legal reissue from 72/73. All blue label, no silver lines across it.

According to Johns bootleg guide its debatable

probably as matt Lucas is on the same label design

Perhaps John could further this?

one was darker blue ,the real one, i seem to recall, ez [sold mine £40 a few years ago, ]good b side ,gets played out on occassion, ezzie

Check Popsike the blue copy with no lines has been selling for $150 167

with lines $126 170 and its styrene same as the demo?

Check Popsike the blue copy with no lines has been selling for $150 167

with lines $126 170 and its styrene same as the demo?

Thanks mate, mine is neither of these 3 though, mine is the same as the first scan (dark blue), same text etc but has no lines?

Simon

Thanks mate, mine is neither of these 3 though, mine is the same as the first scan (dark blue), same text etc but has no lines?

Simon

Yes Simon dug mine copy out and I think its the same as your copy weird.

I wonder if our copy's are East Coast and the others with the lines are West? being they are vinyl.

Edited September 12, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

Yes Simon dug mine copy out and I think its the same as your copy weird.

I wonder if our copy's are East Coast and the others with the lines are West? being they are vinyl.

Hiya Tony,

Yep, that's exactly the same as mine, be nice if it's a proper issue, picked it up for pennies!

Simon

Me 2 was £8 with postage and it has the same stamp in the dead wax as that demo.

Its always sounded good both sides so sure its ok.

Edited September 12, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

I thought the reissues were from the 70's and were vinyl with a dark blue glossy label.

soulmac.

Yes Simon dug mine copy out and I think its the same as your copy weird.

I wonder if our copy's are East Coast and the others with the lines are West? being they are vinyl.

mines the same

If its a reissue then they used the same stamper to press them up, AT stamp 53 or 23 or 35 and the matriax with 11 at the end.

I have the white demo, two awesome sides.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Yes Simon dug mine copy out and I think its the same as your copy weird.

I wonder if our copy's are East Coast and the others with the lines are West? being they are vinyl.

Hello Tony,

Sadly, the one you have in your picture is the re-issue that Pete refers too. They used the original stampers, hence the dead wax markings. (most likely done at the same time as the Luther Ingram re-issue) But I will say the sound quality on these are as good as the first press. £8 was still a bargain.

Regards,

Ady.

This is the west coast design (styrene)......

This is the west coast design (styrene)......

Many different designs for Karen, the West Coast Design arrived by chance from Soul Bowl and is a Rare one.

Not that any are that easy, one day I would love to try for all the variations,

but that would take time and a Lottery win.

My Stock copy is the 2 Line Copy on Vinyl.

The Re-Issue is the first one that I bought, still nice to have.

Edited September 13, 200816 yr by 45cellar

Hello Tony,

Sadly, the one you have in your picture is the re-issue that Pete refers too. They used the original stampers, hence the dead wax markings. (most likely done at the same time as the Luther Ingram re-issue) But I will say the sound quality on these are as good as the first press. £8 was still a bargain.

Regards,

Ady.

that is the only one pictured in this thread that has the 70s font that matches other titles like the compacts on carla

.........so that's 3 different demo designs then.

Mine is on vinyl and I much prefer the other side

Check Popsike the blue copy with no lines has been selling for $150 167

with lines $126 170 and its styrene same as the demo?

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.........so that's 3 different demo designs then.

Mine is on vinyl and I much prefer the other side

This is the west coast design (styrene)......

Originals, showing the DEMO and Stock.

Missing the West Coast Stock Copy.

Hello Tony,

Sadly, the one you have in your picture is the re-issue that Pete refers too. They used the original stampers, hence the dead wax markings. (most likely done at the same time as the Luther Ingram re-issue) But I will say the sound quality on these are as good as the first press. £8 was still a bargain.

Regards,

Ady.

Does anyone know how much this re-issue is worth?

Is this a no-no to play out or as it appears to be a proper re-issue from the 7ts is it socially acceptable to play out?

Many thanks

Simon

Originals, showing the DEMO and Stock.

Missing the West Coast Stock Copy.

West coast boot or original?

Steve J

West coast boot or original?

Steve J

Hi Steve

This is the 70's Re-Issue.

Edited September 13, 200816 yr by 45cellar

West coast boot or original?

Steve J

I thought we'd established this is a 72 re-issue?

Simon

I thought we'd established this is a 72 re-issue?

Simon

............................ How long have i to sit in the coner?

Hello Tony,

Sadly, the one you have in your picture is the re-issue that Pete refers too. They used the original stampers, hence the dead wax markings. (most likely done at the same time as the Luther Ingram re-issue) But I will say the sound quality on these are as good as the first press. £8 was still a bargain.

Regards,

Ady.

Cheers all as clear as day now except what a bout the light blue with no lines is this the first issue.

Cheers all as clear as day now except what a bout the light blue with no lines is this the first issue.

The KAREN Label different Pressing Plant / Design,

Original 60's Press

Why the different design, I'm not 100% sure.

Could be a different time or Batch., but I believe just regional pressing plant Variation.

West Coast, etc.

The CARLA Label also has different Designs depending on Pressing Plant.

Edited September 13, 200816 yr by 45cellar

What about this one then is this a 70ts re-issue.

............................ How long have i to sit in the coner?

Sorry Steve, wasn't trying to put you down, i'm just getting a bit bamboozled, it's an issue/reissue/issue/reissue etc..

Simon

What about this one then is this a 70ts re-issue.

What makes you ask that Tony? Is it because the label colour is very similar to the Quick Change Artist second press? If yes, check out the KAREN letters, plus the distance between them.

What makes you ask that Tony? Is it because the label colour is very similar to the Quick Change Artist second press? If yes, check out the KAREN letters, plus the distance between them.

Curiosity Ady , opening a can of worms and I some times like to name them all.

I see the print now that you say it makes me think the could have copied this style for the reissue.

If its a reissue then they used the same stamper to press them up, AT stamp 53 or 23 or 35 and the matriax with 11 at the end.

Correct, they did use the same stamper, it was Atlantic who re-issued it..1972. Same case with Tony & Tyrone - Atlantic, they used the same Monach stamper etc. etc. I've got these 45s fully documented in the new Price Guide 5, they all have desciptions & scans within the pages, explaining all.

For 34 years now i still dunno the difference between an orig issue and a bootleg. Best go for the demo then. Not too much confusion there.

But heres a story you might be interested in. I was hitch hiking to Wigan and was stuck at Forton Services (i think thats the one just outside Lancaster) and time is passing by and nobody is around to give us a lift when a couple of lads show up and they too want a lift and the destination is the same as me. So its chat time while waiting for the non existant transport down the road, 40 miles away. At some point in the conversation i pull out a 60 count box of records i'm taking down the Casino to hopefully sell/exchange to buy other product. The 2 lads take a look and the Soul Twins gets pulled out. I have it marked up at 4 quid. The one lad decides to buy it and even tho i tell him i dunno if its an orig release or a boot, he wants it. Well i know its in demand on whatever copy its out on so i sell it. After all its now about 1.30am and i'm totally pissed off that Wigan, just a few miles away, doesnt look like being on my agenda that night. It's a 2am start and there's no chance i'm gonna get there by then. So I pocket the money and head back to Lancaster disappointed that my night has been rather ruined by the lack of transport but i've got 20 pints worth of beer money paid for during the next week thanks to the sale of a record i loved and still do to this day. (it was only 20p a pint of Scotch Bitter in them days, 1974). And i also learnt a lesson that night. Do not hitch going there, go by train and hitch back. Northern Soul was a learning curve and i learnt something that night/early morning.