"I've got to have your love/things won't be the same"

Hi guys and gals.Whats the difference between the boot and original.?

Sorry if its been discussed before..Kev.

"I've got to have your love/things won't be the same"

Hi guys and gals.Whats the difference between the boot and original.?

Sorry if its been discussed before..Kev.

Original has 2 unreadable but solid matrix stamps

and URJ scratched into dead wax

according to JM

ATB Steve a.

Original has 2 unreadable but solid matrix stamps

and URJ scratched into dead wax

according to JM

ATB Steve a.

So if it hasn't got the solid matrix stamps then its a boot? I've had my copy since the 70s and always thought it was original, but not according to the above information, have you got any more information about it? or anyone else

Thanks in advance

Steve

Original has 2 unreadable but solid matrix stamps

and URJ scratched into dead wax

according to JM

ATB Steve a.

Bet you're relieved eh pal,

Class double sider, the Very EP-I-TO-ME of

Quality Underplayed Soul

ATB

TP

ummmm Mine is different to the one in Manship's new guide....here's a pic

if you hold it with C66-298 at 6 'o'clock you see urj scratched at 3 'o'clock and a stamp at 9 'o'clock that looks like ARP

Edited January 23, 200916 yr by Val

ummmm Mine is different to the one in Manship's new guide....here's a pic

My one is different to that one too, it's got Constellation going straight across the top of the lable

My one is different to that one too, it's got Constellation going straight across the top of the lable

With no stars? I've got that. They're orig with all the stamps.

To be honest didn't know it was booted. real common 45 at one time.

ROD

With no stars? I've got that. They're orig with all the stamps.

To be honest didn't know it was booted. real common 45 at one time.

ROD

2nd issue?.Mine's plain written Constellation across the top.

C66-298 scratched in at 11.00 oclock on "Love" side.

C66-297 on "Things" side at 4.00 oclock.

Styrene ,moulded label.

2nd issue?.Mine's plain written Constellation across the top.

C66-298 scratched in at 11.00 oclock on "Love" side.

C66-297 on "Things" side at 4.00 oclock.

Styrene ,moulded label.

Must be the boot then, as mine is vinyl with the stamps.

ROD

Must be the boot then, as mine is vinyl with the stamps.

ROD

trying hard to make it orig .

trying hard to make it orig .

There's a lot of Constellation stuff that came out on both label designs. Im sure Boba will confirm.

Are you sure yours is styrene with no stamps. I can't believe they booted it.

ROD

Class double sider, the Very EP-I-TO-ME of

Quality Underplayed Soul

ATB

TP

I agree. Fond memories of this one from the Cats etc. C.mid-73, but it's suffered since due to it being a "cheap" record for many years. I do seem to recall that it may have been bootlegged, but I'm not certain. If so it would have been done in 1973. (I bought a demo just to be sure!) I love it!

Edited January 24, 200916 yr by mel brat

2nd issue?.Mine's plain written Constellation across the top.

C66-298 scratched in at 11.00 oclock on "Love" side.

C66-297 on "Things" side at 4.00 oclock.

Styrene ,moulded label.

dont want to seem pedantic however:

C66-297 scratched in at 11.00 oclock on "Things" side.

C66-298 on "Love" side at 4.00 oclock.

dont want to seem pedantic however:

C66-297 scratched in at 11.00 oclock on "Things" side.

C66-298 on "Love" side at 4.00 oclock.

LABELS are NOT put on the same angle on each individual press, it depends how they came from the printers, how they were packed at the printers, how they were removed from the box and how they were loaded in the "hopper" you can't hold a label straight and say the matrix is at a specific place, labels are pressed on at any old angle, depending on the position they land on the vinyl at.

You have to hold the matrix in a specific place. they read it through the "clockface" way.

Mill Evans was counterfeited, as Mel Bratt correctly stated in the early 70s. They were STOCK copies.

The different label design used the same masterplates as far as i'm aware but I will check that over and get back to you, if they are different.

John

So was it just the straight constellation design that was booted John?

What would an original WD of this go for?

Have had one for a while and I can't stand the record....

It goes for around £25 to £30,is it still available.