hi

a wee bit info on this great sound please.

I read it was unissued till it was released in japan in 1995 on p vine.

it was then released on a kent cd forget the date.

so i have seen it on a modern and a stateside demo

price range from 25 -for a modern to 150 for a stateside,even manship sold for only 76 so whats going on.

cheers

hi a wee bit info on this great sound please. I read it was unissued till it was released in japan in 1995 on p vine. it was then released on a kent cd forget the date. so i have seen it on a modern and a stateside demo price range from 25 -for a modern to 150 for a stateside,even manship sold for only 76 so whats going on. cheers

Issued on Modern 1026 in 1966 with You And Me Together as the flip.

Isn't there a later release with the instrumental on the flip on a green Modern label?

Issued on Modern 1026 in 1966 with You And Me Together as the flip.

Isn't there a later release with the instrumental on the flip on a green Modern label?

Simon Soussain boot I think, though it's conceivable the Biharis pressed it up for him legally, I doubt if we'll ever know!

hi

a wee bit info on this great sound please.

I read it was unissued till it was released in japan in 1995 on p vine.

it was then released on a kent cd forget the date.

so i have seen it on a modern and a stateside demo

price range from 25 -for a modern to 150 for a stateside,even manship sold for only 76 so whats going on.

cheers

It was released in the Mid-Sixties on Modern label in the USA and Stateside label in the UK.

Great record, but its not rare on USA label, so does not fetch high price.

Its been on UK lists and in collections since the 60's, so the info you have read is not right.

Popular at Manchesters Twisted Wheel allnighters etc.

It was released in the Mid-Sixties on Modern label in the USA and Stateside label in the UK.

Great record, but its not rare on USA label, so does not fetch high price.

Its been on UK lists and in collections since the 60's, so the info you have read is not right.

Popular at Manchesters Twisted Wheel allnighters etc.

anychance of someone posting images of an original and a boot please

thanks for everyones in put

anychance of someone posting images of an original and a boot please

thanks for everyones in put

VERNON GARRETT

IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

(D.Peoples)

Arranged by Arthur Wright,Produced by Richard Parker

YOU AND ME TOGETHER

(Garrett)

MODERN 1026

VERNON GARRETT

IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

(D.Peoples)

Arranged by Arthur Wright,Produced by Richard Parker

YOU AND ME TOGETHER

(Garrett)

MODERN 1026

Hi nik

I take it thats the original.

Can you possibly post a photo of the run out ,the matrix stamp number please.

How much is an american original cheers

The instrumental is legally available on Kent's Vernon Garrett CD, by the way.

Simon Soussain boot I think, though it's conceivable the Biharis pressed it up for him legally, I doubt if we'll ever know!

Take it that the instrumental is actually taken from a master copy of the backing track, as (don't know if it's the same for Vernon Garrett), the same-looking boots of Lay This Burden Down by Mary Love have the instrumental which opens up with a great count-in (presumably Arthur Wright), clapping along as he shouts "1, 2, 1-2-3" - awesome!

Take it that the instrumental is actually taken from a master copy of the backing track, as (don't know if it's the same for Vernon Garrett), the same-looking boots of Lay This Burden Down by Mary Love have the instrumental which opens up with a great count-in (presumably Arthur Wright), clapping along as he shouts "1, 2, 1-2-3" - awesome!

Yes, it is taken from a master copy of the backing track - undoubtedly the same one that I used when we put it on the Vernon CD, as a bonus track, a couple of years ago. Same with Mary.

I used to turn my nose up at these 45s all the time. Had them both on Stateside, wasn't interested in filling Soussan's pockets. Wouldn't mind owning both now, though.

Any ideas on the price for a white demo? (USA)

Any ideas on the price for a white demo? (USA)

Recently sold mine for £25 - was near mint, but had a bit of writing on the label. I'd say, realistically, £35 - £40 for a mint white demo (though one major dealer wants £75 for theirs!).

Recently sold mine for £25 - was near mint, but had a bit of writing on the label. I'd say, realistically, £35 - £40 for a mint white demo (though one major dealer wants £75 for theirs!).

Cheers Gene.

Mine has writing on the lable too. Hmmmm

Cheers Gene.

Mine has writing on the lable too. Hmmmm

i have a minter wdj somewhere 60-00 or offers if anyone wants it usa copy

great early dancer from early days of northern

I have the red version with "you and me together" on the b side. I notice that hands of time side has two matrix numbers with one of them crossed out. Are they all like this?

VERNON GARRETT

IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

(D.Peoples)

Arranged by Arthur Wright,Produced by Richard Parker

YOU AND ME TOGETHER

(Garrett)

MODERN 1026

 

 

Another Arthur Wright masterpiece

One on Ebay

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vernon-Garrett-If-I-Could-Turn-Back-The-Hands-Modern-Northern-Soul-7/171442385516?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107083358%26meid%3D4040e85e8f174b88a216eb0837a297b8%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D20140107083358%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D360957822262

I have the original, which I bought when it was out in 1966.  I never paid attention to the crossout before.  It had "MM-1026' first, and that was crossed out, and MM-1026-1 was added.  Whay did they bother to cross out the first one.  All they had to do was add the second dash and the one!  Bizarre!

 

I believe that the blue issue was a boot.  I don't think Modern had legit light blue pressings.

I have the original, which I bought when it was out in 1966.  I never paid attention to the crossout before.  It had "MM-1026' first, and that was crossed out, and MM-1026-1 was added.  Whay did they bother to cross out the first one.  All they had to do was add the second dash and the one!  Bizarre!

 

I believe that the blue issue was a boot.  I don't think Modern had legit light blue pressings.

Thanks for confirming that  the cross out is on yours also Robb. I think that the reason was that there was an extra 0 (10026) in the crossed out first matrix number.

Edited September 3, 201410 yr by Millo