What do you reckon is the 'One Record' that compliments both differing scenes??

Probably loads of different opinions so will record prevail or will even two people agree

on one?

My choice would be 'Heartaches And Pain'-Pages

But that's me,anyway

When you say "modern" do you mean "modern" as in today or the last few years or simply 70's northern oldies?

I personally mean both, but the DJ has to have some common sense as to how the set is 'mixed' ( )......you wouldnt go from the Mello Souls to Joey Negro et al in one foul swoop...........but there are ways & means & it shouldnt be a crusade either.......tunes have to be soulful & relative to fit, its that X factor thing again. Its just about playing good danceable soul records regardless of era or genre.

Russ

Edited April 13, 200916 yr by Russ Vickers

Right then.........

A shining freeway, a resplendent highway, a glowing pathway

Oh well if we are all at it, 'A dazzling super-highway'

Where did Northern & Modern first meet?

Easy 3 word answer - CLIFTON HALL, ROTHERHAM.....

Surely the answer is they once met on the dancefloor slapping high 5's while having a great time, where now they seem to meet at some darkened crossroads where some dodgy dealing has to be done before you can mix the 2!!

Evolution not Revolution I seem to remember someone using as a slogan, at current rate of evolution records from the 80's should hit the current scene about 2075, when only the 2 15 year old DJ's will be alive!"

As an aside I do think it quite amusing the number of crossover/modern bits that seem to be springing up out of recent converts and playlists consist of records that were so hammered 20 years ago they have become todays forgotten sounds, a bit of irony in there methinks , that and they fact they seem to be favouring cheesy sounds closer to Benny Troy than Bobby Womack makes me look forward to the evolving scene...............!

Where there should be no politics (or 40" baggies )

"Where do Northern and Modern meet"

To me they never separated....

If you love Soul music and you love dancing why would you restrict yourself to one or the other?

Now that just wouldn't make sense would it..

Julia

"Where do Northern and Modern meet"

To me they never separated....

If you love Soul music and you love dancing why would you restrict yourself to one or the other?

Now that just wouldn't make sense would it..

Julia

You must be a good dancer

Where did Northern & Modern first meet?

Easy 3 word answer - CLIFTON HALL, ROTHERHAM.....

Depends on your definition of "Modern"...........

New releases were always played alongside 60's tunes at the Mecca, St. Ives, Cleethorpes and Wigan

You must be a good dancer

It's all about not standing still Simon..in more ways than one..

I reckon it's become the most non-descriptive and often misused term on the scene, Chalks, (along with 'Crossover' of course ).

The definitions seem to be so subjective and personal these days.

The term Modern Soul has certainly lost any true and broadly accepted identity.

The descriptions, I see on here, tend to fall under the following:

Definition 1 - Modern Soul - Recently recorded Soul Music.

Definition 2 - Modern soul - All Soul Music recorded after 1969 up until today.

Definition 3 - Modern Soul - Any Soul Music from the 70's and Early 80's played on the Northern Scene.

Definition 4 - Modern Soul - Not Northern.

Definition 5 - Modern Soul - Disco.

There may be other interpretations, but those tend to be the main ones.

Sean

Well I hoped this thread might help me to describe the Village Soul events to friends who've never been,etc as I'm getting a few puzzled looks when I just call it Classic Soul. There's great music from 60's through to new release and I'm finding it hard to describe. The interview with Terry Jones in this month's manifesto is interesting and worth a read (Same subject as this thread)

This isn't just a plug btw!. Here's a playlist from a Village Soul sample Cd that was given away last summer. Compiled by Terry Jones.

Mary Mary Don't you weep - Aretha Franklin

She's not just another woman - The 8th Day

How will I ever know - Wilson Pickett

I'm not ready - Ujima

Let me take you there - Truce

Got to keep moving - Think Twice

The girls alright with me - Temptations

All I Do - Tammi Terrell

So in Love - Studip Apartment

In Ten City - Soul Central

Just to be close to you - Sandra Feva

Reach 4 u - (Next Dimension Musci) - Tara J

Testify (The UBP Sunday Vocal) - UbP Presents Jay Williams

8-3-1 - Lisa Stansfield.

Great but impossible to describe or 'pigeon hole' as most people feel the need to do..

Jayne.x

i'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover

Just imagined myself, Thorley & Vickers in a dark alley beating ourselves up like that bloke in Fight Club

Not only do I love northern and modern (in all of its iterations) but I've even been enjoying some of that R&B shite lately...

Its all NS if it gets played & danced to, why do we have to pick everything to bits, as said previously in my little world in the late seventies, it was all played in the same set without differentiating & I would dance to most records, I thought of it all as NS..............wish it was like that now, the best soul records all played in one venue, one room & you just all get on with it, if you dont like a record dont dance............

Where's Pete............?

Russ

i dont/didnt notice what era

This is Russ on Steves log in Wigan..........77 onwards.

Russ

i dont/didnt notice what era

With 'Modern Soul' being a minefield in itself without even venturing near Crossover, how about introducing Contemporary Soul as a term for new releases to simplify matters? Or to make them even more complicated.

Whichever suits I suppose...

I tried to follow this thread to the end but loss interest a bit.

I'll give you my take on it anyhow.

They don't - and never will.

To ask the question means you either don't understand and are looking for direction or you do understand and are looking for an insight.

I'm going for the latter.

You have either the ability to love 60's music - or 60's music and 70's/80's/da di da music.

Now if you love only 60's stuff, I have no doubt that you are very intelligent and have a great life just loving that....but....stop thinking about your car, and your 52" Bravia and your recently restored Scooter (that you didn't have in 1980) and you too could have a much more fun-filled, and less bitter, life.

You don't even have to come on forums like this to pass on your sh*tty-bitterness, you could just sit at home and bang you Willi J & Co mp3 on and enjoy it.

You see the secret is simply to do it for yourself.

Nobody else matters.

And if you think they do - you've missed the point.

Easy.

Surely the answer is they once met on the dancefloor slapping high 5's while having a great time, where now they seem to meet at some darkened crossroads where some dodgy dealing has to be done before you can mix the 2!!

Evolution not Revolution I seem to remember someone using as a slogan, at current rate of evolution records from the 80's should hit the current scene about 2075, when only the 2 15 year old DJ's will be alive!"

As an aside I do think it quite amusing the number of crossover/modern bits that seem to be springing up out of recent converts and playlists consist of records that were so hammered 20 years ago they have become todays forgotten sounds, a bit of irony in there methinks , that and they fact they seem to be favouring cheesy sounds closer to Benny Troy than Bobby Womack makes me look forward to the evolving scene...............!

Good shout Jocko.

But how much longer can the the 60's dancefloor hide behind their obvious musical progression?

It's took a while and I swear I am not sat here knocking it, it's positive move for them.

Good on you lads.

You see the secret is simply to do it for yourself.

Nobody else matters.

And if you think they do - you've missed the point.

Easy.

I like this.

Jayne.x