Simon T

Other erasons for rarity apart from disputes a) copyright inflringment allegations pressing fault on one side c) producer doesn't like the finished product d) label goes bust without paying the pressing plant e) singer / label owner dies f) singer / band signs with another label ...we could go on..... G) A lot of them are utter sh*te that no one would buy at the time, or even relatives & band members would admit to owning, & were thrown in the nearest bin! Hand on heart, I would have to admit I would have no interest in many of them whatsoever if they didn't have their ultra rariety tag.

Wot about these rarities: The Locations/Mr Diamond Man (label unsure)....anyone know? It's on 'Ron Paul'. Anyone got a sound file?

Hope this OK

One on JM's @ £15 www.raresoulman.co.uk

Seconded, top notch! I bought this again within the last four years for the princely sum of a £3; cheap and wonderful.

Chris Jackson's were acetates as far as I remember (Mick Smith would know) So there's no chance of getting a decent recording of CJ? The acetate has seen better days.

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Pete I think it's off some re-issue best of type thing out of Japan Anyway here's your list selling an acetate if it https://www.raresoul.co.uk/list130.htm

The safest way to back them up is to record them straight to a recordable CD and then transfer that recording to a PC to clean them up and burn them back to CD. Luckily, with a tape deck you don’t need a pre-amp and so you can use the ‘out’ phone plugs to plug directly into the ‘in’ of a CD recorder or line of your PC’s sound card. After a few years the iron oxide on the tapes breaks down and if you are unlucky you might only get the chance to play it once before it’s all displaced on to the tape head and that’s the end of the story. Also, inside the cassettes there usually a layer of ‘bubbled’ paper each side of the spools to cushion the spools and stop the friction of plastic on plastic occurring; again these usually get damp and puffed up and so in fact stop the spools running smoothly. Assume that you’re only getting a once chance to get a decent recording: 1. Clean the tape heads thoroughly with some alcohol and let them dry thoroughly. 2. Fast forward and rewind the tape a couple of times to loosen the tape up and hopefully get it play without jamming up. 3. Set the recording levels to about 75% (put in a decent tape to calibrate the recording levels to just touching the ‘reds’) so that you should get a fairly decent level of recording. 4. If and when the sound / recording levels start to drop off, stop the tape at a point between tunes and clean the heads again. You don’t need to bother about the CD recorder / PC recording as one side of a C90 is obviously 45 minutes and CD-Rs are around 74 minutes. 5. Once you’ve finished recording one side of the tape ‘finalise’ the CD and ‘grab’ to your PC to clean up, amplify etc 6. Finally, ‘burn’ your recordings at a low speed to a good quality CD. Alternatively, send them to me and I’ll do them for you!

Does anybody know what happened, was it withdrawn for contractural reasons? Is the track ever going to appear on a CD (the wife would never let me buy the single, even if I could find a copy)?

Don't that it's M&Vs or Barbara McNair, but there are at least two versions. Check out around 53 seconds, TT sings 'so come back', the other sings 'oh come back', but reckon backing, singers etc are the same.

Rap comes from the word rapport; in order to get on well with the ladies i.e. a good rapport, you had to have the gift of the gab and some good chat-up lines unique to the individual, and the better the persons' 'rap' the more succesful in the lurv stakes. As time's gone by this 'rapport' had been extendent to artist : audience, and now anyone and their homies. Some where, I've got a unreleased 60's / ? Motown track and the singer states he can't get started on the track until he gets his rapport sorted!

About £10 and I wouldn't think too hard to track down.

I've never heard of the LP being re-issued. Apart from the differences in logo Chi / 20th) the sleeves and the labels look pretty much the same, although all the Chi-Sound copies I've seen have had a small (gold) stamp saying 'Demonstration - Not for Sale' or words to that effect.

There's another version by Barbara McNair, or supposed to be by her

They were supposedly discovered when he died. When he Dyed? Black?

Nearly positive CJ never came on anything except a studio acetate. Sure Dave G pulled the release on SC due to contractual concerns. A mate (detroitsoulman, on here) had the 444 acetate (form Soul Bowl?) but retuned it because it was pretty knackered. Never heard a good recording of it from a test press or original tape – wonder what happened to the original recording?

Personally, I think RAP went down hill with the second NWA album, but love the first. I think the ‘gangsta’ stuff sent it on it’s own way that’s got little to do with soul or owt else, and the stuff it sampled –Rappers Delite, ‘good times’ and all that. Just gonna dig out my Boo Ya Tribe albums! PS Anyone got a 12” of 3 x Dope ‘ Funk dividends’ for sale, Arista 1998?

No probs. Always thought it sounded like a two-tone group on helium!

and have you heard the other male vocal to this mate?... not as good by any stretch...