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Another message from John saying he needs to edit yesterday's post. Will post the revised version as soon as I get word.
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The other day Dave Thorley posted a Youtube link to TWPYB on Facebook. I listened to it, and as always with this song I was transported again. So, armed with Google and a lot of free time, I thought I'd have a go at finding one of the authors of that brilliant lyric so central to our Northern Soul existence. The first search on John Rhys threw up Blue Power, a website run by a blues fan called John Rhys Eddins who, it turns out, is a Brit born in Saxmundham, Suffolk in July 1941. I banged off an email to him and got a more or less immediate reply. In the email I directed him to Soul Source so hopefully he'll be on here before long. Meanwhile he's published my letter outlining to him the history of the song's impact on the scene in the UK and beyond and, amazingly, the original demo of the song which he thought we might be interested in hearing (might be!?). He says there's a strange story to tell regarding the evolution of the song , "as strange as only stories can be in 'the twilight zone' of the music business". It promises to be a fascinating one, I reckon. Here's the link: http://blog.bluepower.com/
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Hearing the demo has actually lead me to think about the song in another artist's hands, which would have been unthinkable before. Any other takers, apart from the Beach Boys?
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Wasn't aware it was old hat dave. one never stops learning on here.
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christ, hadn't thought about the minogue connection. that'll piss tobi lark off even more, if such a thing were possible... I'd never heard the piano demo before and thought it'd be nice to get the story on here. he wanted to post it on his website first though. :-)
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what interview was that mate? was it northern soul related or kylie minogue related?
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If Modern to some is anything post 1969, then it's positively ancient, innit?
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John Rhys - Co-Writer Of Time Will Pass You By View full article
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I wouldn't use the f***er for plant pot drainage.
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You'll have a load of indignant historical re-enactment buffs on yer back now.
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Know him well Manus. His family lived out at Wansford. We used to go the Haycock on Sunday lunch times in the mid 80s, get completely ripped with all the toffs, then have lunch and a long siesta at his Gran's, then do it all over again in the evening. Monday mornings used to be grim. Don't know how I even got to work sometimes. Last time I saw him was in the Gladstone Arms probably early to mid 90s. If you see him again, say hi from Mac(ky).
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So you guys are both my dad then - I'm mac manus ... my dad's from the fermanagh/cavan border. summer hols in bundoran as kid.
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Ah' perhaps I'm mistaking it for another one, gerri thomas 'look what I got'? I remember you chiding me during one of my soul police rants on that wave of stuff (barry benson, peggy march, helen shapiro, jackie trent etc) that used to drive me into M's or funk rooms, of all places, around 1978. That's how I discovered there was a DJ in Notts called Duke Polluta Funk...
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And you also love Jackie Forrest but we can't use it on this thread 'cos it was massive...
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the shamettes - don't waste your time. twee is the word.
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another soul sam spin, I fear... (bill purcell)... think I remember folk being pretty disparaging about fool's paradise - jeanette harper...
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ray pollard and gene mcdaniels for me too, around 1981, so a bit late perhaps. certainly can't remember them pre 1980. when was walter jackson's uphill climb to the bottom first played in a northern soul environment, early 80s too?
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I thought I had when I emigrated in 1991, then about 5 years later, walking past a bar in town I heard the voices of east harlem 'cashing in'. what a jolt to the senses! another four years later, an old mate said he was coming over to a soul do in my neck of the woods. I decided to check it out. it was mostly modern & crossover I think, with people like edu from barcelona on the decks. I was hooked again. Have made tons of friends here who are passionate about their soul, their soul dos and life in general.
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The question many people ask themselves is 'does it have a place alongside X, Y, Z records?'. Would it be incongruous for whatever reason? Many good Soul records were spurned in the 70s simply because they were deemed 'commercial chart fodder' or simply because the divs would be dancing to it on a Saturday night at 'Annabelles' nitespot. Of course, there was no way that records like Young Hearts Run Free, Love Machine, Car Wash etc were ever going to be enjoyed solely by the select few. I personally think that Duffy doesn't fit into a northern/rare soul context. I might be wrong.
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Enjoy your rediscovery of your dancing feet mate though I suspect the scene that you grew up on 68-72 was a far cry from what later became 'northern' soul in the mid 70s, with the championing of contemporary releases and the consequent change in tempo and dance styles. I arrived on the cusp of this change and managed to embrace the two genres, though I baulked at the Disco that became popular around 76-77. In the last few years I've got into the slower, midtempo stuff recorded 68-74 commonly known as Crossover today, though admittedly many self-styled uptempo terrorists consider it inappropriate for the dancefloor. Go with what grabs you best and try to keep an open mind, something I denied myself for years.
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No need to be snotty, Roburt. I've contributed to the thread constructively.. twice in fact. My comment was more to do with the true definition of Hootenany rather than with Joe & Eddie, whom I don't consider really representative of that particular folk phenomenon, which I think you might have been able to glean from my posts. The Chambers Brothers, Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee often played Hoots, token blacks in a sea of white faces to show how 'right on' the Hoot folks were, probably... You're also assuming a lot regarding those records you think I should go and play. Mac,
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and I'm sirhan-sirhan...
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Bugger all to do with Soul, this thread.
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More like this... https://youtu.be/BImWFB6eeJc As opposed to this... https://youtu.be/-wGgvbHcgyc
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It was also used in some folk circles to satirically to refer to the clean, safe, wholesome, ersatz folk of groups like the Kingston Trio which were being marketed by the major record companies at the time of the 'folk scare', i.e. 1958-1964... For every one of those artists there was a Rick Von Schmidt, Dave Van Ronk, Bob Dylan etc... Dylan used to lampoon them from the stage...