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HI IAN 'N' PETE,, What do you mean just occurred and probably! last year I actually wrote about the volumes on PAMA and what was a legit release and any record with copyright control, was at best iffy, however after reading the issues about Simon are nothing compared to the set up at JET STAR/PAMA LTD COMPANY, THE BROTHERS have to be liked as they worked and ran the company in true Jamaican Style, the word SKANK ING is how to describe them as there is no English word, I could make one up like artherism dailyite or skamering, a small piece of info by a cleaner at Buckingham Palace ended up as a request from Chuck to put an LP out LP sell to the JAP'S? the company took on the name of JET STAR in late 67, from a deal with BOBBY PATTERSON to release his records in Europe this enabled them to call a further company JET STAR INTERNATIONAL. they also had a PAMA INTERNATIONAL CO and PAMA SUPREME as label to issue US MATERIAL? But you 2 know all this I think? therefor I am DAVE.

HI A good question, It's never stopped! in fact you here about it all the while, as it's information that the record is only for personal use! It was put on records by the insistance of the MU (musition union) before the Rock & Roll years, musicions got paid by the Band leader, and song poblishers got paid by selling sheet music, quite often they would by songs from the public at a cost of 10/- a song, the most famouse place to sell or by songs was in TIN PAN ALLEY (DENMARK STREET) SOHO,, However once the Rock & Roll records become popular and the record size ans speed changed in 1954, the first nails where being hamerd home and in 1958 the UK fuly embraced records from the US, even established continental radio sounded Americam and the first radio DJ become as popular as thhe music they played on RADIO 208 LUXEMBURG, PETE MURRY & ALEN(FLUFF)FREEMON, WHERE 2 OF THE STATIONS TOP DJ's with there Ausey twang to the vioce, But the big threat come from a Yorkshire minor who persauded the Mecca Dancehalls to let him play records instead of the band trying to play the hits of the day, the DJ Was Jimmy "now then now then sad man" Savile. he was the first recognised DJ who played records from 2 turntables, All this hapened very quick, and the MU members where loseing there jobs, as more DJs emerged, in london the all night cafe's that had been the start of the UK Tedy boy scene with it's trad Jazz or Skiffle music was replaced by a biger JUKE BOX, the sound of black America took over and with the music the TEDDY BOTS & the TRAD JAZZ soap dodgers where replaced by a more astute sub culture who where comfortable in embracing black people and haveing fun in the seady SOHO Streets with it's gambling houses brothals strip tease XXX CINIMAS homosexuals talking polari! drugs and the SCENE CLUB OR THE FLAMINGO where the live music was MOD, as TIN PAN ALLEY CRUMBLED the biggest cick in the face come from the NORTH SEA with RADIO CAROLINE and RADIO LONDON, BIG L,as a kid I wasthe right age for PIRATE RADIO, but it was the final straw for the MU, up until 1965 the MU had banned live music from the US playing in the UK, this is why all black music had a white artist doing a cover, many people have wrongly made an assumption of racism, maybe but the main reason was for them to make money by releasing a UK cover, but some people like Ronan O'Rilty the owner of RADIO CAROLINE NORTH & SOUTH pot out 3 goergie Fame 45s on the indy label R&B at the same time the LONDON in-crowd played black music in the clubs and DAVE GODIN GUY STEVENS CHRIS BLACKWELL championed the cause also the rise in white bands with a newsort of band leader ALEXIS KORNER & JOHN MAYELL had so many top sesion players come through the ranks playing a truer black sound, and over 3 years even the Lyceam got rid of JOE LOSS (March of the MODS) did not save him, the biggest influance in this transition where the Beatles In the early 1970s the musixions union had it's breakthrough, with the slogan "KEEP MUSIC LIVE" by making the BBC play at least 4 hours of live music in evey 18 hours of air time, this is why we had the RADIO SESSIONS IN CONCERT, and TOP OF THE POPS, THE OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST, LATER WITH JOOLSS To conclude the writeing is for anyone who plays any record to a live audiance, they must list and pay the artist, failing todo this has a max sentance of 5 years in the HMP, since digital technolagy has ben with us as you are aware that bit of writing that 99.9% of soulsource DJs ignor sems small fry with illeagal downloads, PLEASE DON'T MOAN ABOUT MY WRITEING DAVE

HI ALL The First pick is from of me box, and was played at the Event of the Year "TORCH 11" last Saturday night, sounded excel ant, the vocal by BOBBY WELLS - BEACON 102 is rare on original yellow label and big at the WHEEL Manchester, however the Inst that come to the UK as ships ballast in 1971 was a TORCH spin "the PSYCHEDELIC THEME" It's got a nice flip side also my record for today from in my box, is another UK Release on PYE INTERNATIONAL 7N 25492 "PUTIN IT ON, PUTTIN# IT OFF" Again this sounds right to me, and would easy fit in with much roarer current music, the A side is also excel ant more up-tempo, but a great dancer, Again this is another recommended record and a bit hard to find, Value ISSUE £20+, DEMO £40+, If played demand could easy double the value. this DEMO was £5 from EBAY, 2 GREAT SOUL SIDES ***** SSHHUSH DAVE, KEEP IT AS A SECRET SOUND!

Hi great LP , the girl on the cover won the dance compitition at Cleathorps, she was from Granthem, a nice place to stop when going to Cleathorps, take a break, I mean time to break into a Chemists and load up, and stop about 10 miles out at the vilage caled Swallow, and do as the sign says, and have a great all-night chew from pier to peir, yes a good pick DAVE

HI A GREAT FIND FOR 35p, the chances of finding a real one in a junk shop would be 98% impossible, as if I remember correct, all the copays were sold to UK dealers in 76 by the owners wife, and even the master stamper was sold, making the first run of issues very rare but on styrene, not sure if they have the Nashville stamp? as the stamper would not of left the record plant if it had a distributor's monocle on, most copies are still worth £10+ first run copays £30, if you can find one?

HI Another great choice, OK! some younger members would feel that this is a cheap not rare soul? however this record was massive at BLACKPOOL MECCA when Tony Jebb played it, and back then, how many where aware it was still available at your local record shop on President? Dave

I Fully understand, and there is no need to be sorry, as I should of took time to reflect back, On a personal I got to met BUTCH through Mick Smith, not as a punter, but one mate introducing me to a Friend that I did not know, the fact that Butch was also a mate of Tim Ashabendy (who I have always looked up to) as such, I will always stick up for them, especially in incidents like this, Over the years that BUTCH has been a DJ, I cant think of any other ex WIGAN DJ, that has given so much to the RARE SOUL SCENE and as a individual has the gift of empathy tto-wardsothers, he is indeed a rreallydecent bloke, It does ssaddenme that others are not inspired by his contribution to the scene, thats not to say I have lLittlerespect for other Wigan DJs but most have some form of iirritationsince the closure of Wigan, and act as if they where above us, Ian Levine is a good example of this? To conclude I just wish for at least 18 months that every one made an effort to try and get back to some of the ununwrittenules of DOE'S & DODON T'Shat made our scene, esespeciallyn a fraternal way, that for me is erveryuch declined in fafavorf small click's who omcompetegainst each other, and establish at least 3 must attend all nighters, not all these liLittleoe's just for the locals, apart from the 100 CLUB where are the other top all nighters in the UK DAVE

HI I totally agree with that one, 2 great sides, and one of the first US imports that I had? My latest record out of my box? no I am sober. I played down the phone (as you do!} is a forgottenn jem on the B side of the MOD CLASSIC "back to Georgia". "I'm a lonely boy" has all theingredientss to be a top play on todays scene, PYE INTERNATIONAL 7N35239 RATED ***** VALUE £40-50 ISSUE, DEMO?? However I got a cop last week of Ebay £5.08 in EX condition, if someone has a sound clip please, buy it blind if you don't no it, I promise you will love it. DAVE

HI PETE I must have done more damage than I released as them years were VERY hedonistic, anyway it was before the TORCH closed (I think!) What year was the 1st boot of DUKE BROWNER and all the CANTERBURY & SOUL-TOWN BOOTS? They were before things like ROCKY ROBERT'S, FREDDIE CHAVEZ, LESLEY UGGAMS and so on, and by 75 you could get most of the early Wigan records on BOOTLEGS, In 73 Chris Button's Out of the Past label turned into the white label OOTP, someone must no the order on when they where released? JM BOOK misses the years out! DAVE

HI MATE Carl Jung put a great emphasis on symbols and how they could be interpreted, however as your use of a handle which means a meadurement of length, maybe! a few words might explain why you chose to high lite my entry, which is adult (factual) answer, as the symbol chosen is parental, which is based on what you have been told, false or true! and verges on you inner child (emotions & feelings) to cover your eyes means fear! and your difficulty to express, yet your user name would suggest that you have a desire to express,? Are your feelings of shame & embarrassment the right ones to use as a reply to my answer about a individual who is not afraid to act on his convictions, with actions that may outrage some, but be fully accepted by others, In this ase a protest from a top collectors / DJ being P***ed of at expensive record in his play list is being played, by someone from a $10 disk in front of him? In all my years on the scene, there are Doe's & Dont's, and the act of the individual is a you Don't do this BIG Time, Bootlegs CD's and all the other crap like badges photo copies that are done for the sole intention to exploit the scene,& make money, memoribila should not be sold at rare soul event's if counterfate? however I agree with Ady C about a large amount of people Will buy these product, however the same people should not try and pass them of as the real genuine product, indeed if they do not know the difference don't exploit them to line your pockets. The SOULFUL thing is to educate them! That would eradicate the need to take matters in hand, why did nobody tell the DJ what is acceptable to play, and why was he playing a record from another DJ play list on the same night, again, that's another no no!! DAVE where has my hammer gone? (I LOVE THE RARE SOUL SCENE) KILWORTH

Hi I am the first to admit that I have many gaps in my Grey matter, and sometimes get things woefully wrong? so to correct this I go by as many bench mark references as I can, in 72 I used to get records from junk shops in Harts & Beds Luton was good, MOORE'S, REDIFUSION, SELECTOR (Hector) Carlo's Bedford, DAVIDS BOOKSHOP & their warehouse in the Spirella building Letchworth, Contempos Hanaway street, Pete Waterman Coventry & Mick Smith, Added to this I look at the many people who went to Blackpool Mecca Torch Up the Junction Bletsoe Market Harboro Shades & the CAT'S who dropped of the scene after the TORCH closed in March 73 and who drifted back at the end of 74, you would be surprised how many faces did not go to Wigan in the first year, Now it's a fact that a Friend of mine & Mick's Billy Mac bought the Butch Baker JOKER on cherub Boot, and he dropped it on the steps coming out of the Cats, knocking a chip in it? now Billy did not go to Wigan nor did most people from the south including Mick, So the record must have ome out in 72? as it was around the time KIETH M, covered Buster Pearson up and be for Jerry Williams and Otis Smith were reissued in 73, I may be wrong, somewhere I have a list of records from that period, i will try and find it?

Hi The answer is NO, as long as you are not threatening to harm anyone, a hammer is not classed as a weapon and as such it does not come under the offensive weapon category, hence it's popularity in the EAST END, Also a club dance hall, is classed as private property, the POLICE are very reluctant to prosecute any acts of violence that are lower than section 18, and for taking a record of a turntable and spinning it away, would not be sen as unlawful at any time, When it comes down to it, unless the clubs owners want to press charges, it would be unable to prosecute, this is why clubs have there own security staff to police, the #1 crime to go to court is theft of belongings, not even the use of Drugs on premises goes to court unless the owner wants it to, as if there is a raid, all you need to do is drop it on the floor, it's the owner who gets done. clubs are shut down when the owner loses control of the club, as it's far to expensive for any police force to do more than 2 major operations in a year, that's why drug dealers like to grass up the competition, with the knowledge that the police budget has become more depleted? DAVE

HI ALL It's a good point!! that applies to many great rare soul sounds that have quality B sides the ALEXANDER PATTON is a typical example of what I believe was PETE'S point, I no TED (#1 midlands DJ) played it, it's a hard one to choose if you have a full dance floor is it the A or B side? As I say there's loads of examples to choose from DAVE

HI Has anyone got issue #2 for sale or swop? please state condition and price, will give a good deal for it, i will consider even a poor copy just to complete the set Dave K

HI DID I SEE AN ISSUE ON PETE SMITHS LAST LIST? PROBER LY GONE BUT WORTH ASKING HIM? DAVE

HI YOU ARE LOOKING AT HUNDREDS OF RECORDS, YOU NO! WHAT ARE YOU AFTER? AS SOME ONES THAT WERE ONCE COMMON ARE NOW HARD TO GET. AND NOT SO LONG AGO MOST WERE UNDER £5, HOWEVER THE COMPLETE RUNS OF PRE-1975 ARE GETTING A HIGHER PRICE AS FOR MANY PEOPLE THERE FIRST NORTHERN SOUL COLLECTIONS, CONSISTED OF BOOTLEGS, EARLY COUNTERFEIT RECORDS SUCH AS ALEXANDER PATTON & JERRY COOK ON CAPITOL AND NOLAN CHANCE, DEE CLARK, & GENE CHANDLER ON CONSTELLATION ARE VERY COLLECTIBLE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED, SEND A LIST OR A PRICE GUIDE ON HOW MUCH YOU WILL PAY, GOOD LUCK DAVE PS I HAVE A SPARE 1ST COPY OF JIMMY RAYE IF YOU WANT IT?

HI ALL,,Just to put the record straight October 72 it was available, making it the 1st time it appeared on a 45 RPM 7inch, in the world, I am certain a studio dub plate was available if required by a local Detroit Radio Station on request on a 7 or 10 inch acetate, So to put pedantic to one side and legality of the disc, it is the first original 7 inch, the UK Contempo was the 1st legal copy, on a personal point of view the Bootleg for me has much nostalgic associated to it, and as I have said, I sold the LP, and I still have the boot, My thinking about the BOK to BACH mix up, can be explained by the photo of the 1st Boot, Then it had a legit release on HERITAGE, Going back to the CATS the BOOT OF SWEET SHERRY was available before the Butch Baker Joker release, and that was in JAN 73, Before the close down of the TORCH in MARCH 73,? if that helps DAVE

HI PETE You are so right, of coarse it's got love-in Inst, I no what, Bootleg never had FATHERS ANGELES, It was me who had it, still have the issue, and after looking through records in jumble sales car boot sales junk shops, second hand records shops charity shops and all the boxes that i have looked through, apart from Mick's house, I have never seen an issue for sale, back in 72, I was certain that I would find it, but alas, also back then DEMOS of all UK 45s pot you straight in the elite of soul collectors at Blackpool Mecca, it was not to 73 when for a reason I don't no about, that rare Demos become more common,and 74 before I sussed out that about 7 UK 45s on issue were worth more than the DEMO, Carl Douglas, Jimmy Thomas, Little Hank, Sly & the Family stone, Hoagy Lands, and what else? also it was around the same year that Chubby Checker on a west coast Parkway making the US 45 worth more than the UK CP copy,and the find of Nolan Chance on Bunky, all this info was kept very quite and every one has there secret places to get records from again back then Ed Win gates (Love In Strings) was a BIG Rare Demo, now it's £7? There was only the 1 BOOTLEG, That had JJ Barns on, I remember Laura Lee on a fake RIC-TIC LABEL and the first batch of OOTP coming out a year later, and John Abbey the ED of Blues & Soul Mag, making statements about counterfeit records only to be out whited buy Chris Burton from Soul-on-Spoon. That reminds me after to-night in 2 Days & a Breakfast their's a Children in Need event on for the kids,.... Hewer for the HARD CORE IT'S THE LAST OF THE TRILOGY OF TORCH SPECIALS, NOT SPONSORED BY BEN & JERRY'S ICE CREAM.. **IT'S TORCH 11 THE MUST ATTEND EVENT OF THE YEAR! with all your TOP KING SPINNERS + #1 DJ from Outer Space,"HERE WE GO AGAIN" Mr ALIEN DAY,, also I WILL BE THERE WITH BLOCK EYE? DAVE K

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I DO PETE And I don't buy CD's often, However last Sunday I was driving home from north Yorkshire remanising to Marie about how I went to the CATS WHISKERS VAVA and lied in PRESTON the turn of to Wigan, as we went oer the Ship Cannel and singing knutsford city limits, we stoped for a burger, in the shop I spoted a 4 CD SET caled 101 NORTHERN SOUL ANTHEMS £4.99 and sat in the car park playing great records and being taken back to 1974, to me that's when you really get the best from CDs much better than playing the tape of last nights records played at the casino? DAE

Hello to Ali the children who's Mummy & Daddy are in the 50% of we just want to go out and have a god night, and only moan at the cost of finding a baby sitter, in case the cheap one niks some of daddy's bootleg records, Don't forget Boys & Girls to tell them when you get a bit older, Granddad DAVE said, when you die, it would of been better to lEAVE SOME original rare records, than a pile of worthless Bootlegs, What kind of inheritance is that to leave? a real soul brother or sister would not have wasted my Sweet money and left us alone with a baby sitter while pretending to all-nighter goers, It was all a front for you to get stoned! "that's what Granddad Dave said! Now close your eyes you tight fisted f**ker and thanks for nothing' GOOD NIGHT CHILDREN EVERY WHERE, GOOD NIGHT DAVES AUTO EGO

HI ALL This would be a question for a pub quiz, and it still amazes me, that it never come out as 45, and is one of the original must find recordings, that helped the RARE SOUL Scene to be kicked into the obsessive scene that we love, rather than a late 60s fad? when it got bootlegged in late 72 on GROVES-VILLE, with BOK TO BACH on the other side, I quickly sold my STAX RARE STAMPS LP, which was the only way to play it, as a boot it was a big seller and many collectors would agree it was one to keep. I still have my copy, John Abbey was a nice man, but his work with JJ & MAJOR LANCE turned him, and he was misled by the type of businessmen like Chris Burton's style of make the most cash, in the shortest time,? An opportunity missed! DAVE

Hi i have an interest in your decks, I have always used the mk2s since I gor rid of my sp25s in the 70s, these would be useful for a new project of mine, if you still have them could you send a few pxs and info on how sharp the brakes are, have they got flight cases?, DAVE

HI PETE The Golden Aples from the Sun, is a fantastic cheap buy! sometimes I just wonder, how do you do it, I no ?I did not pay muh for my copy? but that was pre- web days? I don't believe it!Vic!(*(!?| DAVE