Everything posted by dthedrug
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Uk Tamla Motown Demo
HI ALL. This is my copy and you have had 2 copys that mean there are 246 un accounted for? I Don't ask for much but we have a Duty to the the ebay member, and to reasure the public, that the record TMG 855 has been correctly described. as I for the record call him Bill Shakespiar nfa, Don't believe him. However if he is proved right I will put up my copy framed with BILL'S own words on the sales section of Soul Source (any money raised will go to the dthedrug "not only but more than Skin Deep Vol20 © dtheddrug & "more than Skin Deep 2009.. DAVE(Keeps it in his skyrocket) kil
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Collecting British...why Bother?
HI MATE...NO YOU AINT SAID OR DONE ANYTHING WRONG AT ALL? I AM PUTTING A FEW BITS ON HERE BECAUSE I CAN, AS I HAVE COLLECTED THEM OVER THE YEARS, YOUR SET OF QUESTIONS ARE VERY ECLCTIC AND AS YOU ARE ASKING BUT NOT REPLYING TO THE FEEDBACK I AM CURIOUS TO ACTUALLY TO WHAT THE REAL QUESTION IS THAT YOU ARE ASKING, :- As I live in the UK and purch esd my 1st 45 in 65 "shapes of things" Yardbirds & the Who "mY Generation" and the 1st EP I got of my sister best Friend Joe Gibson who was 4 years older (Both Joe & my sister are on the classic film "here we go round the Mulberry Bush, Mods?) was on a UK London Label "Green Onions Pt1". Now looking at your question or any one who keeps asking this question! would you ask me if I was living in France and had buy Pop and Soul music why French or you don't have the originals it was issued and made in the UK 1st if you applied this stupid scenario apart from the UK & The USA no country in the world would have any of the most popular music of all time be it rock R&B, SOUL, FOLK, BLUES, REGGAE.It is this point I struggle with? lets get a bit of logic & history going on here, the question would not even be considered these days with receiving music digital the question of what country did your download come from is to weird even for my Acid Head (lateral thinking), you tell me how many Stax copy's of "Green ONIONS" Were knocking around the UK when it was released and available to Jo in 65 on an EP? that's put that to bed, I HOPE.The real start of my record collection started in 67/8 when I met the 1st collector, KEN ? HE WAS A GRAMMAR School kid the same age as me, but KEN who come from WEST HAM in East London collected BLUES Records and he also played a guitar, when i used to go to his place I was introduced to the BLUES Led Belly, Doctor Ross, Lux Meed Lewis, Mississippi John Hurt, Sonny Boy Williams, Little Walter, Howlin Wolf. Robert Johnson, the LP King of the Delta Blues Players is and has been an inspiration to many (why collect UK) and along with Elmore James every body had to learn the Blues as i tried with the guitar but could never get right, I Lent the Harp it was quick and easy and portable, Ken also had a collection of Blues recordings by white artist copying the blues like Cyril Davidson , John Mayel, and all the artists that were on the Blue Horizon Label these artist you could go and see at places like the Round House in Chalk Farm, The Middle Earth, I went to the Earth based on Portable Road opposite the Dog shop saw Fairport convention and Quintessence there and even closer to home the Blues-ville 67/68 clubs had taken over from the Ricky-Tic clubs Rory Gallagher Taste, Duster Bennit, Christine Perfect? Fleetwood Mac the New Yardbird, Manor House best was john Mayel and his mouth Harps in Gun Holsters Phew they were the days. It was Ken who introduced me to the Home of the Blues mag and the Paul Oliver book and LP the Story of the Blues, and my 1st look at an original US Chess recording, Very Rare Ken explained as handled all his records with care and wiped every time with EMITEX.The first imports I have mentioned before some where that meant something to me were from Jamaica and over the next 4 years i started my collection of about 1000 records initially I got the record that were om Tighten Vol-2 some of the Red Red Wine LP bad 4 from the Bang Bang Lulu Pama LP. While Mary Hopkins was winning opportunity Knocks taking the mantle from Freddie (Parrot Face) Davies Those were the Days my Friend, I thought they would never end, now Reggae came in 2 forms UK release AND JAMAICAN RELEASES, These where in several different variations called PRE RELEASE and Versions of a popular record or production of rhythm my first find was when i listoned a record by ANDY CAP who produced a version of the old FAT MAN standard that had been a hit for Derrik Morgan in 62 as REGGAE developed many JA fave had to be re recorded from SKA to the new format and FAT MAN appeared on both TROJAN AND PAMA outlets , but it was the RHYTHM track that every one love and Andy Cap turned us on to VERSION With DJ' mimicking the tune Dubbing Vocals on top, although PO-PA TOP period on treasure Isle at the time (I NOW KNOW DIFFERENT) you had to get the imported version.This leads me to the conclusion :- Soul collect ores understand that i/we collect as such we buy which means especially in the 6ts & 7ts without hearing the record at all, as such digging for new tunes in junk shops was not only fun it was profitable, if you are new to the soul scene that means you first attended after 1973, you have it so easy, if you all you need to do is type northern soul onto a computer or go to John Manships Excellent Soul Shop on the net you can buy all the records you want in and at your own pace, but you can only imagine what finding a UK SOUL CITY or ACTION is like, then what about Carl Douglas UA, or Bok Bach once you start you will be at it for years, and finally you should applaud those UK collectors who made the 1st trips to the US as there knowledge enabled the rare Soul Scene move into Northern Soul which opened the gates for modern crossover and so on, for me I will stick to collecting all soul but as Niel Rushton said or was it KEV Roberts there is nothing more satisfying as owning a a few dozen UK demosDREAM ON, if you don't get it now you need a kick, and yes i do have the Kent 6ts 100 club collection however since no 17 I did not get any more, as it was like asking Mick to give me 50 pounds for nothing every year as they fetch good money, Dave
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Collecting British...why Bother?
HI ALL.. WHAT A NICE SET OF SCANS ESPECIALLY THE ACETATES, WE NO THEY ARE RARE, BUT WHAT IS VALUE MONEY WISE? THE FOLLOWING ARE FROM THE PYE GROUP, EXCEPR THE JR CAMPELL DERAM DEMO THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED LAST WEEK SEE RELEASE DATE? THIS GREAT SONG COME FROM THE SEDDION SINGER AT HIT THE LOWER END OF THE TOP 50 IN THE WEEKS FOLLOWING THE TORCH CLOSEING A GREAT RECORD, THE CAMEO PARKWAYS ARE ALWAYS NICE TO OWN, THE TYMES HAS THE CRACKING "MALIBU" THATS WORTH HEARING AGAIN IF IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE YOU PLAYED IT. THE TIMEBOX WAS ONE OF THE UKs CIRCUIT BANDS AND ALONG WITH GENO ALAN BOWN, BILLIE DAVIS, KIETH POWELL, AND JIMMY JAMES AND THE VAGS WHO RECORD A MUST HAVE VERSION OF "THIS HEART OF MINE" WHICH IS ON SOME EARLY CO PIES OF THE LIVE AT THE MARQUEE CLUB WITH ALAN BOWN ON SIDE A, GETTING BACK TO TIMEBOX WHEN THEIR "BEGGIN" WAS POPULAR. I TOURED THE UK WITH HIS BAND BOXER, A GREAT MAN AND MUSICIAN WHO SEEMED OVERWHELMED BY MY KNOWLEDGE OF HIS MUSIC AND SOUL, TIMEBOX WERE CONTROVERSIALLY AT THAT TIME WITH THE STUDENT FEMINISM (I hate any thing that ends with ISAM) THERE IS A MELODY MAKER WITH A FRONT PAGE ARTICLE ON TIMEBOX AND THE BURNING MAN AT BATH UNIV THAT MAN WAS ME, I HAD SET MYSELF ALI TE WHILE LIGHTING UO A FAG AND THE PETRO OIL FROM AN EFEX GUN HAD LEAKED OVER ME, I JUMPED OF A 15 FOOT STAGE FLAMES ALL OVER ME AND RUN THROUGH THE PROTESTERS PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS A PART OF THE ACT, ALSO WE DID A 5 DAY CONFERENCE AT THE NEWLY OPENED NEC IN BRUM, ALONG WITH TIMEBOX JIMMY HELMS AND ALEXIS CORNER, WE SMOKED DOPE AND HAD CARAFE'S OF RED WINE FOR BREAKFAST AND TALKED BLUES AN SOUL, ALSO I THREATENED THAT MUPPET FROM GUYS AND DOLLS HE WAS A COMPLETE ASS HOLE, AND IN FRONT OF 400 EXECUTIVES FROM THE COMMERCIAL RADIO CONFERENCE, I WAS GOING TO KNOCK HIM OUT EVERY ONE CRAPPED THEMSELVES UNTIL I SAID "THE SHOW GOES ON"..HAPPY DAYS & WHY COLLECT BRITISH? HAVE A GANDER AT THESE FEW:- DAVE KIL
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Collecting British...why Bother?
[][] Hi All Did I post these:- the JAMES WALSH IS HARD ON A ISSUE. LALO SCHIFRIN IS A CLASSIC MOD/HAMMOND NUMBER REALY GREAT (I HAVE A MINT ISSUE FOR TRADE, IF ANY ONE IS INTERESTED) BIG Sound. PIONEERS IS THE RAREST AND BETTER LOOKING AND LONGER THAN THE MERCURRY 1st Issue IS THERE A 12" COPY???THERE SHOULD BE?JOHNY NASH IS QUITE HARD AS IT IS THE ONLY DEMO I HAVE FOUND ALL THE REST HAVE BEEN ISSUES?. THE GINNY ARNELL I FOUND AT SHARESHILL CAR BOOT ALONG WITH QUEENS BOHEMIAN RAP EMI DEMO, THE JAMES WALSH ISSUE FOUND IN CHARITY SHOP IN WOLVES, THE FREDDIE WATERS IS AN OLD WHEEL SOUND OR BEDFORD BLETSO! I LOVE IT AND BEETS ALL THE MODERN STUFF ONCE AGAIN I DONT KNOW THE PRICES JUST THE RARETY OF 45,S DAVE
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Old Blues And Souls/echoes
Hi in one of the early issues theres a regular feature by Chris Savory. I would be greatful to find a copy thats got a feature about myself and selling records at Wigan Casino, thing is I cant remember the Date, what I do remember not only did he name me but he printed my full address (a Good way to get busted at the time?) i am pretty sure it was in 77 just around the time the Kempston Rovers FC nights started with Franco running the show with Hammy Brillo Me & Mick now & again, can any one remember this little club night held on a Thursday?? any way I would love to have a copy with the article or even a print. I no I have asked before, but had no joy cheers ears. DAVE KILWORTH (Formally from Letchworth) quite close to the place they dumped the headless man also near to Micks & Taffys. the PITS
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triple birthday bash 053
Taffy apart from some people can you identify who's who in these photos and do I know any one apart from LOUISE DAVE BEDFORD PETE??and how come I never get invited is my reputation still that BAD???
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Spare Copy's
HI ALL - IT IS A VERY RARE EVENT FOR ME TO SELL ANY THING THESE DAYS, HOWEVER IF YOU ARE A DJ AND WANT SOMETHING SPECIAL! I HAVE 2 COPIES OF THE YET TO BREAK VERSION OF THE SMOKEY ROBINSON TRACK "WHAT LOVE HAS JOINED TOGETHER@ by DOBBY DOBSON on SUCCESS 12" 45rpm,This is SOUL not REGGAE. IF YOU KNOW THE TUNE (B) OF It's Fading by the TEMPTATIONS, THIS VERSION IS THE ULTIMATE VERSION AND VERY RARE TO LOCATE ON 12" CHECK IT OUT FIRST, THEN MAKE ME AN OFFER STARTING BID IS 35.00, I CAN ASSURE ALL THAT THIS WILL BE A 100+ WHEN BROKEN, BOTH COPIES ARE FROM 1982 AND IN EX CONDITION, THE ORIGINAL 7" WAS MADE IN 68 JAMAICAN ISSUE ONLY BUT WITHDRAWN AFTER 7 DAYS, DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND ADD THIS TO YOUR CURRENT PLAY LIST EXCLUSIVES. AUCTION ENDS SUNDAY AR PM EMAIL ME WITH ID OR HIT ME WITH A GOOD OFFER ON 1 OF THE 2 COPIES FOR A BUY IT NOW DEAL HERE IT ON SOUL SOURCE OR YOU TUBE. ONLY PO ACCEPTED AS PAYMENT AND IF I KNOW YOU I WILL POST ST THING MONDAY EVEN BEFORE I RECEIVE YOUR PAYMENT,GOOD LUCK.TO HEAR RECORD CLICK ONTO LAST PLAYED, IN MY PROFILE... DAVE KIL Hi and thanks to those who e-mailed and trade offers - I will give it some thought as such I sold just 1 copy left for sale at min bid of 75.00 + P&P-THIS AUCTION FINISHED AT 20.00 TO-DAY DAVE (I will sell something else) KIL
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Ray Barretto - Acid - Fania - 1968 - Album
Hi All ..You have chosen well my Boy. great LP and the 45 is collectable with great B side MERCY MERCY DAVE KIL
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Allnighter Issues
Hi to you all...I have looked through this thread from top to bottom...My conclusion is WHAT Point are YOU TRYING To MAKE.. It seems that you are all attend All-Nighters and Weekender's just to moan about issues that don't mean F all, the Soul scene ain't Dieing its just that you are getting old and cant except this fact of life?? What the majority of this thread want, is unclear to myself. Also BUTCH is a good bloke a great DJ and I don't like to here BAD things said about good People. You are all good people but if you must go to weekender's every other week no wonder you are Burnt out? and sound like lost souls, Enjoy yourselves don't attack one another as there is only 10 to 15 years left for most of the originals.// DAVE KIL
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Literally - Look At This Box (B&q)
Thats a Great Tip! I used the same Idea when I used to make SPLIFFS!! DAVE KIL
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Literally - Look At This Box (B&q)
Hi All - I like talking about BOXING However having a natter about BOXES Is as close as we will get to-day, my more recent purchases were from John & Talk when they had the SHOP, I miss that place best thing to do on a Saturday morning since TIS-WAS, Q:-WHO SAID..I COULD CRUSH A GRAPE??.. I still have my converted Bottle Beer Crete that is the perfic size for 250 45s that I used to take to the CASINO and the one that is featured on the Granada ENGLAND this ENGLAND RED BOX.....But my rarest Box was given to me by Mick Smith it belonged to BIG CLIVE EVERETT and it was the box they took to the TORCH & the MECCA, and is lined with the MINIT LP 33 1/3 Sleeve..So theirs history with my BOXES are they worth anything I wonder?? By the way TOADY BOY Cheers for the support last Friday I made it there and it will happen next March and they booked 4 weeks to here me? BUT CAN I SAY TO ALL THOSE WHO KNOW WOT I AM RABBITING ON ABOUT! I AM GRATEFULLY FOR YOUR CONCERN. AND TOADY BOY YOU ARE A PROPER GEEZER AS WELL AS A No1 SOUL BOY! THANKS DAVE KIL Back on SCRIPT..
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What Year Was Wigan At It's Peak?
Hi All - In my umbel opinion! it was 1973 to it's peek in the spring of 76, and the long hot summer days HOT! HOT! HOT!. Also by then Ken Cox had established his East Anglia's Club that was a big change also the fact the MECCA lost it's sparkle and with SOULFUL SAMANTHA'S with the great JOHN VINCENT doing his thing with EMI disc's , I remember him raving over the Zenith band inst on Beacon? and again you had MARY and her 2 PIERS to go to along with early members of th 6t's rare soul collectors doing Yate a early version of the 100 Club?. and after being busted in the sumer of 75 and being banged up in Leicester nic for 5 months listening to Diddy David Hamilton playing T.D Valentine on the radio (the lengths of time I suffered so many of you had a good time is a cross I have to carry) and busted again in JULY 77 on the way to Huntington this time for intent to supply it would seem that the first 4 years were the best 74 & 76 on par with each over especially for all the different sounds played from UK Pop Flops to New York Disco..HAPPY DAYS DAVE KIL 2 loves have eye!
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American Recording/british Release?
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Collecting British...why Bother?
Hi Heres a couple of winners both Rare in a sort of UK collecters frame of mind? Rare = Elusive, Not cash alone/ DAVE K PAID #2Quid for this of Mick S years ago
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Collecting British...why Bother?
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The Holy Grail Of Lp's?
Hi All - I can highly recomend the following rareish LPs:- the MAR.V.LUS Sound of R&B & SOUL - VA - President PTL 1002 (essential LP for soul in 69 = Tighten Ups 2/3 Motown chartbusters 1,2, & most Def #3, SOUL CITY - VA, and so many more Dthedrug Rates ***** (2) the DUCK - Jackie Lee - LONDON HAM 8336, BEspoke to the rare Soul Scene, Before it got started??? ***** (you havn't got a record collection if you ain't got this!) it is a MUST. (3) this is BLUES - VA ISLAND PINK LABEL IWP5 this brilliant LP contains the FAB Willie Mae Thortons - TOM CAT, A Rare RECORD worth $$$$$ on 45. (4) the RUFFIN BROTHERS - I am my Brothers KEEPER Tamla Motown STML 11176( a EXCELLANT ++ LP that includes the great - Turn Back the Hands of Time. Always a winner. ***** all the way, what do you say! DAVE WHUFC WINNERS DID YOU EVER DOUBT THE EAST END SHOUT CUM ON YOU IRONS!
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American Recording/british Release?
HI ALL the FATHERS ANGEL are the SIGMA STUDIO HOUSE band, IN THE SANE WAY THE FUNK BROS WERE THE MOTOWN HOUSE BAND, FATHERS ANGELS, THE VIRTUE ORCH, MFSB, TSOP FAMILY. ARE ALL THE SAME BOK to BACH IS A US RECORDING THAT WAS ISSUED FIRST ON UK MGM & LATER ON A HERATIGE LABEL (4 YEARS LATER). DAVE KIL
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The Holy Grail Of Lp's?
Hi All...If this is not classed as a classic Rare Soul LP that got a UK release, then what should be in a top 50 must have UK LP listing?? DAVE KIL (CDs NOT ALLOWED)
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Just Like A Yo Yo
HI ALL Ruby Winters "Just like a YO-YO" Diamond Records was one of the 1st inports I got in my 1st Soul Pack from CONTEMPO in 1970, it is a fab record no UK issue however it is on a Goldmine CD the TWISTED WHEEL STORY VOL 1 or 2 both CDs are classics to own DAVE KIL
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The Holy Grail Of Lp's?
You are to lucky I dont know it's true value but at a guess it must be 100 at a min, Gibo yes Iremember him, I have @cryin days are over on SUE@ what a classic? DAVE KIL.
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The Holy Grail Of Lp's?
HI ALL..I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE KELLY BROTHERS LP ON PRESIDANT FO 35 YEARS PTL1019 ANYONE GOT ONE? DAVE KIL.
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The Holy Grail Of Lp's?
- Collecting British...why Bother?
HI TO ALL UK COLLECTORS..HI... I HAVE FORGOT WHAT THE ORIGANAL QUOTE FOR THIS THREAD WAS? (BUT A QUICK GLANCE OVER THE SOUNDS ON THESE PAGES WILL TELL YOU WHY WE COLLECT UK TO MAKE THE POINT GET TO THOSE WHO JUST DONT GET IT, IT IS GOOD TO COLLECT UK, COULD YOU LEAVE THESE BEHIND??? WELL COULD YOU PUNK REGGAE TO YOU! GEGGAE TO ME? DTHEDRUG© 2009- Collecting British...why Bother?
Now the point of records was at the time only a very few people collected records out of the top 20, it was my fortune to meet a Sound System owner who took me with him when he bought new sounds, as such places like MUSIC CITY SHOPS Brixton market were all places that exited myself and my record collecting roots were formed. In 1970 I acquired my first SOUL imports, Stevie Wonder "nothings to good for my baby" on TAMLA, Tammie Terrel's "this old heart of mine" Earl van Dyke "the Flick" VIP and so on most available exports were mainly R&B OR UPTEMPO BLUES? MOST SOUL RECORDS WERE ON THE Action label and Tamla Motown Atlantic & STAX this continued into the hunt for more elusive and exclusive finds. at this time I met MICK SMITH who has always been a mentor and Sage and its through Mick I learnt about RARE SOUL I Have never tried to compete with the Micks and ANDY'S on the scene preferring to collect my way and get stoned but if it was not for UK reggae and soul there would not be any scene at all. and Pete is right with his 3 rules. T0 conclude over the YEARS I must of collected 25000 records but its my UK collection that means the world "Ready Willing & Able" green & White Demo can be played at any time in my book, try and find a copy buy it play it enjoy it and then wind your neck back in and you will be respected DAVE I TOLD YOU! KIL- Records With Train In Title
Hi All...About 18 months ago I stated that there is not a bad record with train in the title? I still stand by mt statement My question is about the Classic Funky Train by Bill Black, my copy camme of an LP as a Accitate yrars ago, can any one tell me was it issued as a HI Single? and how much is it worth in 2010. DAVE K - Collecting British...why Bother?