Agentsmith

just been looking round the regular dealers and the cameo recordings have just disappeared from sight...another typically cheap record that probably no longer is...

top venue bro, groundbreakin' tunes, big happy families, dancers & crate diggers,...wether you were on the floor or hoggin the bar, the earholes were firmly pinned to the music and the dj's were thoroughly appreciated,...great hosts as well,lynn, tate & martyn. thank fook it wont become a retirement home either...its holy ground and should be treated as such!....and there ought to be a plaque erected on the spot.

CUM ON YOU MANORITES.....GET SOME MORE SOUNDCLIPS UP HERE SO EVERYONE CAN GET THE GIST OF WHAT THIS PLACE WAS ABOUT!!

just seen it in paper, looks worse than the last one but whats really heartbreaking is the fact someone's got a twisted cruel mind...whoever the scum is, obviously realises the significance of this building to many and are appropriately taking a course of action that sentences the building to a lingering death....well perhaps now, the local authorities will do the decent thing and bulldoze it so least we can still preserve the good memories we had of it.

dave, yer a top man and sincere appologies for last week, was not feeling well so went early, in the meantime GET YOURSELF on in the windsor suite mate and get me on the dancefloor!!

its obvious that the move to a more more dynamic, free enterprise music policy, is paying dividends with respect to the windsor suite at stoke and it hasnt gone unnoticed by people who, quite simply wouldnt attend stoke on the basis of it being a predominantly oldies orientated niter, the change of stance indicates a nod towards what the hard bitten, hard to please connoiseurs regard as progression and whilst the concept here is playing catch-up with whats been going on elsewhere for the last twenty years or so, nobody's complaining that it isnt welcome...infact as kev said, the punters ARE voting with their feet, not that they are foregoing all the other enterprising niters...on the contrary i believe they are acknowledging conformity. it also DOSNT have to ring true that the niter itself IS strictly oldies of the well engrained type..with andy dyson & mick.h on in the wee hours the emphasis shifts to records that perhaps havent been given their due or they've gone right over our heads and got lost in the mists of time. and of course...the younger generation that is growing, it seems, relentlessly at stoke are quite naturally appreciative of whatever they hear...its not a question of forgiving them...its a fact they want to hear the classics but they are also endearing theirselves to the abundant material that we class as being ordained for SECOND rooms and on this premise, stoke is making its stature felt once again, instead of just being a monolith drifting along with average attendances.( the fact is, its NEVER heard the word "average" ) ive complete respect for everything else thats going on, in this day and age its about competition...ive had the experience of the 100 club.....i understand burnley & rugby's popularity and wouldnt understate them for one minute, but stoke IS also a magnet, it draws a huge crowd and tonight WILL be a packer and the range & diversity of people who attend is every bit as welcoming & fascinating as anywhere else in the u.k. on any given day. "you could play deputy dog and they'd dance" sounds like a cruel jibe but that would be to take it out of context,...the soulies here, quite simply enjoy the music and their demand for more borders on averice!!,....one thing is for sure....IF ALL ELEVEN DJS IN THE MAIN ROOM DECIDED...LETS ALL PLAY ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SETS,.....it wouldnt make a blind bit of difference to the congregation....every tune would be treated with equal enthusiasm. to the unconvinced, its understanably hard to swallow that the kings hall all-niter should embrace the tag " the world's biggest" but its undeniably true,...and not for one minute, am i going to stand here and think somebody isnt going to rant and rave at me, like who the hell are you and what do you know?...sure im expressing my opinion, safe in the knowledge that 1500 people will back me up....yes there are ONLY five a year......BUT WHAT A SPECTACULAR FIVE!!

here, here that man, carms is a top lady and yer rock mate...always look forward to meeting you both and tomorrow night is no exception...oh, and appologies for getting on me soap when this is supposed to be your thread...its always funny how things get sidetracked but, it had to be said and i for one dont want to spend any dotage in a zimmer frame regretting chuckin in the scene because it wasnt of any interest anymore.... FACE FACTS...ONCE YOU'RE BITTEN, ITS IN YOUR BLOOD FOREVER, THE BEST ANTIDOTE TO EVERYDAY MONOTONY YOU COULD EVER TAKE! ...p.s. whats on the playlist for main room nige? fidels for me if you've got it

aye up brother peter, are thee alreet?, bye eck lad we're fine down here but cant wait to get to tha neck o' the woods fer lowton & the dunk....shall we be having recieving of your attendance appen?

the scene is dead is it?.....mmm...well NOT according to the REST OF THE PLANET...isnt it now described as a GLOBAL PHENOMENON?,...HASNT IT ALWAYS BEEN THE GREATEST, MOST OBSESSIVE MUSICAL CULT THE WORLD HAS EVER WITNESSED?.....THAT WE INVENTED?....SOMETHING THAT, BY DEFINITION, WE BRITS ARE GOOD AT?...AND ISNT IT ALSO THE ONLY MUSIC THAT CANT REINVENT ITSELF IN SO MANY DIFFERENT FORMATS AND STILL BE GOOD TO LISTEN & DANCE TO?....AND CAN EVEN THE 70'S BE SAID, EVEN IN ITS HEYDAY/INFANCY, TO MATCH THE VAST THRONGS THAT FILL VENUES ALL OVER NOW?....to small minded people it may be viewed as a cashcow to be milked indefinitely but what matters is that the music is still LOVED.....ITS PURELY AND SIMPLY INCOMPAREABLE...ITS GREAT LYRICS LIKE NO-ONE IS CAPABLE OF WRITING NOW, ITS IRRISISTABLE MELODIES AND UNRESTRAINED PERCUSHION & BRASS, SWIRLING STRING ARRANGEMENTS, DYNAMIC VOCALS, SUBLIME HARMONIES....ITS ICONIC MILESTONE RECORDS THAT YOU WILL LOVE UNTIL YOU DIE, THAT YOU WILL DANCE TO TIL YOU DROP....BECAUSE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE OUTSIDE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT NOW IS UNRECOGNISABLE FROM A MUSICAL POINT OF VIEW...IVE SAID IT BEFORE ITS MIND NUMBING, BORING, CONTRITE, UTTERLY MUNDANE TRASH......the real world is where we are, a world with a semblence of sanity and respect, where what we listen to sounds RIGHT. " a hundred years from now, there'll never be anything as good as this".... thats quoting keb darge...AND HE'S RIGHT...long after our generation have all passed over, the mantle will still be carried by our siblings, because the one's we educate will see exactly what we saw, all those years before. like everything in life, you always know a good thing....THATS WHY THE SCENE WONT DIE AND THATS WHY IT ISNT DEAD NOW

nige lad, i remember well when that unfortunate incident happened in 2004...about 3 weeks later, i think, you came to prestwich...everyone was stunned when it happened, but when you returned to the longfield suite, you were welcomed with open arms mate. ive always considered you a top bloke, a great laugh and a very knowledgeable anorak...long may you continue to be...you give 110% in every set you do and you actually LOVE every record you play. ...im an old fooker as well and do i stay til the old brandy ball pops its head up?.....yeah right!...even ruppy says im off to cuddle up to the teddy & hot water bottle...he even accused me of coming to the kings in me jim-jams YOU dont have to justify nowt...so we'll see you and the good lady carms in the windsor suite...no time to be yawning in there!!

JUST TO STIR THE MEMORIES....why dont you all check DAVE RIMMER'S SOULFULKINDAMUSIC WEBSITE to look at the very last all-nighter playlist in its entirety, compiled by yours truly, its a real eye opener and a brilliant line-up of djs to give the old dog a fitting send-off.... how about posting up some piccys if anyone's got any out there?

we've covered this ground, i think last year. there were pictures in the shropshire star when it suffered an arson attack, badly damaged inside...amazing its actually still standing...i really thought everyone knew about the manor's circumstances. truly a great venue and THE ONE that broadened my horizons from a musical perspective. even fortunate enough to get to dj there....such was the set up there, no residents...a different line-up of djs every month and the music policy was also across the board regardless of the fact it wasnt a 2 roomer, although for the all-nighters martin, tate & lynn did use the rear lounge. im of a mind that lea manor carried the torch after totw and as it stands now, the windsor suite & junction 11 are very much carrying on the trend ( appologies, to name just two! ) yes, the lea manor hotel was a landmark venue for thinking man's music...its such a shame its suffering a lingering death.

true, jordi true, remember rog nicholls playing me this over 20 years ago, great underated, underheard crossover

who's spinning a yarn?

mike, do you want to merge the kenny & colin threads into an ongoing forum? right, im going to hold my hand up and say im guilty of playing frank as well, 2010 at the tower from the 45th anniversary motown box set whilst promoting tim's book....is that reasonable excuse yer honour?

no, you're right bro, its a joke alright when it runs into......how many pages?

OH, AND KEN ALSO HAS ONE, IF NOT THE ONLY GENUINE STUDIO ACETATE CUT BY FRANK,...SO, TECHNICALLY HE HAS A RIGHT TO PLAY THE RECORD AS WELL.......BUT HE'S RETIRED, A HAPPY MAN

HOW COME COLIN HAS MANAGED TO SNEAK IN HERE AS WELL?

RIGHT THEN, YOU BORED PEOPLE....I'LL EITHER SEE YOU ALL AT THE STATION HOTEL, DUDLEY FOR PAT LEWIS OR.....YOU'LL ALL BE TRYING DESPERATLEY TO AVOID ME AT LIFELINE!!

you're absolutely right, it dosnt matter where its disappeared to, but it attracts a lot of sneering conjecture, there are a lot of people who genuinely dont like the record and the repetitive talk of its celubrious history. why should it be hard to swallow that it sold for such a sum of money?, somebody had the financial clout to obtain it and i wouldnt doubt for one minute, john's ability to sell the product...lets face facts here,... even john's eyes must widen at the prices some of the records he's auctioning, are realising and just from a personal point of view ive listened to countless soundfiles of what i would consider utter dross and others AND they are few and far between, that are out & out winners ( most recently, judy hughes & vivian jones )

i cant believe you all want to bring this one up again...........are you all bored or something?....or waiting for lifeline tonight?? IF you want, i'll put you ALL straight about this......the price IS correct,....NO, to this day no-one knows WHO the owner of THAT copy is.... THE OTHER ONE belongs to tim brown, and, bearing in mind and we're talking about oneupmanship here, TIM is the ONLY person who has a genuine right to play it,....EVERYBODY ELSE plays u.k. motown issues or.....dare i say it, bootlegs. AND, just to nail this once and for all, ken & rona are close personal friends and, as we've been to visit on many occasions, ive SEEN the evidence of the sale with my own eyes.

YOU SHOULD TAKE "MOTOWN " AS A GENERAL TERM, IT COVERS ALL ITS MAIN & SUBSIDIARY LABELS AND THEIR OUTPUT...NICK & THE JAGUARS, AS EXPLAINED, IS THE CORRECT ANSWER AND OTHERS SUCH AS THE VALADIERS, DEBBIE DEAN FOLLOWED SOON AFTER...BY THE TIME R.DEAN TAYLOR TURNED UP "WHITE" WAS A MUCH USED Expression....KIKI DEE CAME RIGHT AT THE END OF THE 60'S/TURN OF THE 70'S...FIRST BRITISH ARTIST,...YES.

here, here!!, how good are they when he's " indisposed" jules? im completely astonished now, that this has gone into 5 pages, same as chalkx, infact, this tree has sprouted a number of branches that have entirely nothing to do with what the debate is about anyway...and anyway, hasn't everything been said that needs to be said?, its a rehash of a recurring arguement, just using someone else's name as an excuse....IF WE ALL KEEP THIS UP, THERE WONT BE ANY PUNTERS AT ANY EVENTS THIS WEEKEND!!!

for the propagandarists.....SHOULDN'T THIS TITLE BE: HAS COLIN CURTIS SOLD HIS...."SOUL".....COLLECTION? i think not

i decided against it pete, stick your head above the parapit so to speak, i know everybody hates me..... uncle ted keeps telling me to shut the barn door!!