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Wigans Chsoen Few
right on malc! just like plasticine, they bend anyway!! rob.h p.s. the wolverhampton lads were awesome....you just had to stand, watch and learn
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Wigan Playlists Early 75
FOOK! YOU'VE BLOWN ME COVER!!
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Jethro
pete, remember watching it there and then, infact i think steve powell said they made at least three appearances the "tourists" just stood around in amazement!. bloody footsie.....the late bryn lane (r.i.p. 1979) had blue max's original soussan acetate with car horns on and no football crowd and.....a record collection that mysteriously disappeared from sight?. remember, that was 1975.....anyway SO AS NOBODY GETS THE WRONG IDEA.....I'LL EMPHASIZE, I DONT WANT PERSONAL RECOLLECTIONS OR EXHIBITS FOR ME .....I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY SCRATCH THEIR HEADS, RACK THEIR BRAINS AND ALL DO IT IN UNISON, NOT JUST IN THE UK BUT WORLDWIDE....WHEREVER THERE ARE SOUL AND EX-SOUL PEOPLE WHO JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE IN COMMOMN THE FACT THEY WERE THERE.....I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.....DONT WE ALL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE EPITOME OF ALL WE HAVE KNOWN, SEEN AND HEARD IN ONE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION. IF ITS A PHOTOGRAPH ALBUM WOULDN'T THAT BE BRILLIANT?.....NOTHING LIKE THAT EXISTS TO STIR EVERYONE'S MEMORIES AT THE SAME TIME. people are posting pictures on here.......BUT THEY SHOULD BE ALTOGETHER IN A COMPREHENSIVE BOOK! can you see what im driving at?. as for cinefilm, we could and should, be getting somewhere, AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO BE REMINISCING OVER A FEW EDITED CLIPS. INTO DOTEAGE?. THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR RANKS WHO HAVE THE CONNECTIONS AND KNOWHOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 800+ on the board now, lets keep it going but we want 800 POSTS AS WELL!. i'll bet many of you are nodding your heads thinking this is a potential project....WELL, I BELIEVE IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAKE OF POSTERITY AND FOR MUSICAL HISTORY BECAUSE, MARK MY WORDS, WITHOUT DOUBT NORTHERN SOUL IS THE BIGGEST SINGLE CULT MUSIC PHENOMENON THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN AND WILL SEE AND THE VENUE THAT SEALED ITS DESTINY IS WIGAN CASINO. ROB.H
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Jethro
pete, remember watching it there and then, infact i think steve powell said they made at least three appearances the "tourists" just stood around in amazement!. bloody footsie.....the late bryn lane (r.i.p. 1979) had blue max's original soussan acetate with car horns on and no football crowd and.....a record collection that mysteriously disappeared from sight?. remember, that was 1975.....anyway SO AS NOBODY GETS THE WRONG IDEA.....I'LL EMPHASIZE, I DONT WANT PERSONAL RECOLLECTIONS OR EXHIBITS FOR ME .....I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY SCRATCH THEIR HEADS, RACK THEIR BRAINS AND ALL DO IT IN UNISON, NOT JUST IN THE UK BUT WORLDWIDE....WHEREVER THERE ARE SOUL AND EX-SOUL PEOPLE WHO JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE IN COMMOMN THE FACT THEY WERE THERE.....I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.....DONT WE ALL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE EPITOME OF ALL WE HAVE KNOWN, SEEN AND HEARD IN ONE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION. IF ITS A PHOTOGRAPH ALBUM WOULDN'T THAT BE BRILLIANT?.....NOTHING LIKE THAT EXISTS TO STIR EVERYONE'S MEMORIES AT THE SAME TIME. people are posting pictures on here.......BUT THEY SHOULD BE ALTOGETHER IN A COMPREHENSIVE BOOK! can you see what im driving at?. as for cinefilm, we could and should, be getting somewhere, AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO BE REMINISCING OVER A FEW EDITED CLIPS. INTO DOTEAGE?. THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR RANKS WHO HAVE THE CONNECTIONS AND KNOWHOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 800+ on the board now, lets keep it going but we want 800 POSTS AS WELL!. i'll bet many of you are nodding your heads thinking this is a potential project....WELL, I BELIEVE IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAKE OF POSTERITY AND FOR MUSICAL HISTORY BECAUSE, MARK MY WORDS, WITHOUT DOUBT NORTHERN SOUL IS THE BIGGEST SINGLE CULT MUSIC PHENOMENON THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN AND WILL SEE AND THE VENUE THAT SEALED ITS DESTINY IS WIGAN CASINO. ROB.H
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Vicki Baines Country Girl
OH BOY, SEE IT, WANT IT!......and it aint cathedral city. last time i saw one FOR SALE (not auction) was in butch's box at keele, year before last £1500. now the last j.m. auction realised £800+ so, big discrepancy and that was MINT as well. bearing in mind you have a chip but as you say it plays perfect, the ball is somewhat in your court where reasonability is concerned on price. it is truely an all-nighter record and with a long association to richard searling who covered it as christine cooper in 77/78 and kept it that way for a number of years, as well as being one of my personal holy grails! rob.h
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Margie Rimmer - Funeral Details
DAVE, BOOKED DAY OFF SO TELFORD WILL BE REPRESENTED AND PASSED ON MESSAGE TO LEN COOKE SINCERELY, MAY AND ROB
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Wigan Playlists Early 75
EXCUSE ME..............ARE YOU..........THE MATRIX?
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Jethro
ah, me old china, just took a days sabatical on account of internet dosnt like telford and every 2nd wednesday of month it pulls a fast one and logs off....very strange? so, 700+ have looked now and 20 replies....better have a nice bit of mahogany or teak ordered. if its true, i cant understand why people would not want to share their keepsakes and souveniers with the rest of the family as theyre achieving no objective at all....oh, by the way it took neil rushton, bless him, 4 years to put his brilliant observation of northern soul life together and he is living to see the result. im no author, producer,archivist etc., but if this thing ever stirs the imagination of enough people im sure that someone with collateral nowse will come forward and snowball it....THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND WHAT THIS THREAD NEEDS IS FOR 700 VIEWS TO BE OUTNUMBERED BY 700 POSTS. YES IT SOUNDS LIKE IM ASKING FOR THE WORLD TOMORROW BUT,...SOMEONE ELSE WILL SHUFFLE OFF THEIR MORTAL COIL JUST LIKE THERE'S NO 1ST WORLD WAR VETERANS LEFT AND WE AINT GOT NO FURTHER TO SOLVING THE MYTH AND MYSTERY. so there's some unique footage that no ones seen, thats great...if you believe there's life on other planets then there has to be more film...in the hands of a 70's tourist even?...this is it isnt it? we have to get to the bottom of the truth to build upwards. just think on this...A GLOSSY HARDBACK 800 PAGE DICTIONARY WITH HUNDREDS OF PREVIOUSLY UNSHARED PICTURES AND UNCHARTED TESTIMONIALS TO THE VENUE...AND....IN THEORY, A DVD CONTAINING ONE OR SEVERAL OFFERINGS OF COLOUR FOOTAGE THAT WERE THOUGHT, NEVER TO EXIST...BLOODY HELL, EVEN GRANADA WOULD BE INSANE TO TRASH ANYTHING THAT THEY HAD EDITED AND CANNED BACK IN 77/78?. DAVE, YOU'RE A FEW NOTCHES OLDER THAN ME BUT OUR GENERATIONS HAVE OBVIOUSLY EARNED THE RESPECT OF OTHERS, LIKE I SAY SOUL SOURCE MEMBERS DONT KNOW ME FROM ADAM BUT YOU MUST AGREE ITS AS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER AND PRESERVE YOUR PAST AS IT IS TO NURTURE THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS WHO ARE GETTING INTO THIS MUSIC AS A MEANS OF ESCAPING THE DESOLATION THAT IS POP MUSIC AS WE KNOW IT NOW. ROB.H P.S. EDDIE,....HOW GOOD IS SUBCITY?
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Jethro
see dave, jogged your memory didnt it...so suspicions would be correct...NO ONE'S GOING TO TELL ME THAT IN 8 YEARS, SOMEONE DIDNT DO SOME INDEPENDANT FILMING FOR THEIR OWN KEEP SAKES. its like antiques roadshow isnt it?. so far 200+ people have looked at this. THERE ARE 6 BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET AND AMONGST THEM ARE MILLIONS OF NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND 100'S OF 1000'S WHO WENT TO WIGAN. THERE MUST BE ANORAKS WHO HAVE KEPT PRISTINE TAPES AND LOVINGLY PRESERVED PICS. i can see this is going to take time to wake people up but as lainie hill said "time marches on". THERE ARE LOADS OF YOU I KNOW AND MANY WHO DONT KNOW ME FROM ADAM SO.....DO YOU THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING THREAD THAT DESERVES TO BE EXPLORED, IF SO AND YOU HAVE THINGS TO SAY OR CONTRIBUTE GET ONLINE AND DO IT!. SO FAR IV READ ALL THE THREADS ABOUT THE MUSIC, DJS, CLOTHES ETC,...WEVE ALL BOUGHT AND SEEN THESE....THATS TOO EASY....THIS IS THE REAL CHALLENGE....SO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EX-PATS IN OZ FOR INSTANCE, WHAT DID THEY DISAPPEAR ABROAD WITH TO KEEP THEM COMPANY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN HERE? COME ON SOULIES, START PULLING THESE THREADS TOGETHER! ROB.H
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Jethro
i went to the catacombs in 73, prior to wigan and surprise, surprise there is even less photographic evidence of a legendary venue but wigan was a massive stage for everything, with huge crowds year in, year out ....just thinking out loud, imagination or not, there has to be a possibility that someone was privilaged to have a cine-camera. on the other hand as years passed cameras became more accessible and better quality so by 1979-81 there should be some great pictures. like i say this was a global phenomenon as we all know....so who knows if someone in france, usa, australia, japan, thailand etc, who came as a tourist or a brit who emigrated, might have something in their posession that nobody has ever seen. you have to consider all possibilities. as i suggested this should be a broad concensus, ive posted this as a way of jogging peoples memories like no other...... I CAN SEE PEOPLE ARE VIEWING IT SO ARE YOU INTERESTED OR NOT....I SAY THIS BECAUSE THERE APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF INQUISITVE POSTS ABOUT WIGAN....IT IS A MAGNETIC FASCINATION....DONT YOU THINK, UK AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, WE SHOULD TIE ALL OF THESE STRANDS TOGETHER BEFORE WERE ALL IN OUR COFFINS AND LEAVE A LEGACY FOR OTHER GENERATIONS TO UNDERSTAND? ROB.H
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Jethro
thats the idea....somebody shot all the footage for the tv documentaries so its presumable ther may be some of the edited stuff boxed up gathering dust at the bbc or itv and the edited stuff could run into endless hours and its highly unlikely such evidence will see the light of day, but, for instance 250000 people went through those swing doors and a lot of those youngsters emigrated to all four corners, some still alive but even the deceased's relatives could have a tale to tell and souveniers. are we just going to settle for short clip re-runs?...sure most people werent aware of the importance of photogenetiscism and in the main they got blurred images, but for every ten of those there will be 1 visually perfect shot ....even with pure luck and we already have the evidence of such images...but we dont have a pictorial or dvd bible, a definition that says yes! this is it....til now its all fragmented. in this day and age we can buy the history of anything...concise anything. why cant we buy and hold in our hands the definitive wigan?. casino history
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Wigan Playlists Early 75
JOEY DEE CENTURIES MARVIN HOLMES GIL SCOTT HERON SAM WARD JEANETTE WILLIAIMS PRETENDERS AL WILSON ( PASSPORT ) MARC COPAGE JODI MATHIS EULA COOPER CHIFFONS BAND LARKS BAND TONY NEWMAN DON THOMAS G.DAVIS & R.TYLER PRESENT FRANKIE VALLI EARL GAINES FLORENCE DEVORE KRIS PETERSON LARRY SANTOS GRAHAM CENTRAL STATION HAROLD MELVIN YOU'LL KNOW THE TITLES! ROB.H
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Jethro
READING DUBLINMAN'S THREAD....WELL, BEARING IN MIND THAT RICHARD SEARLING TOOK HIS BOX TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD STAFFORD WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I PRESUME ITS POSSIBLE THE SPRINGER'S MAY HAVE BEEN A TAIL-END WIGAN RECORD LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT GOT STAFFORD STARTED BUT ITS PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT NOTHIN'S TOO GOOD IS DUBBED OVER A SHORT FILM CLIP FROM WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUTUBE, SO ITS LIKELY , IN THAT FILM CLIP, IT WASNT WHAT THE DANCERS WERE MOVING TO. BUT THIS STARTED ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THATS INTRIGUING....SO HERE WE GO!. BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE WHO IS 49 IN 2010, WOULD HAVE JUST ABOUT BEEN OLD ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE CASINO IN 1981, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHO: TOOK A CAMERA TO THE CASINO AND STILL POSSESS PHOTOGRAPHS? TOOK A CASSETTE RECORDER ALONG AND STILL HAVE TAPES? e.g ones that still sound audible as opposed to muffled. WERE IN A DECENT JOB AND....COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE A CINE-CAMERA AND.... HAVE GENUINE FOOTAGE....INCLUDING SOUND RECORDING? LOOK... WEVE ALL SEEN THIS ENGLAND, SOUL FUNCTION AND EVEN FOOTSIE ON TOTP! BUT, BEARING IN MIND OVER 8 YEARS 1000'S OF PEOPLE MADE THE PILGRIMAGE SURELY THERE MUST BE ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO: MAKE A CONCISE DVD AND EVEN A GOOD HARDBACK PHOTO ALBUM OR BIOGRAPHY. SO....AFTER 40 YEARS, LETS HAVE A CONCENSUS AND GET EVERYONE IN ON IT...WOW!, MASSIVE PROJECT OR WHAT? WELL, THIS IS SOULSOURCE, THE BIGGEST WEB SITE PURELY FOR NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND IT SURELY CAN BE DONE. NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER YET THERE HAS TO BE SO MUCH THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW OR WERENT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF SO THIS COULD BE THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE EDICT OF THE SCENE WE LOVE AND THE VENUE THAT CAPTURED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF NORTHERN SOUL. ROB.H
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Does Anyone Know Who These People Are?
catacombs dancer with graham jackson and paul derby, and a host of other names ive forgotten...oh, and my old mate steve powell who lived in goldthorn hill, wolverhampton where all thes people originated from and, of course, when they made the transition to the casino as i recall, no one had ever seen their style of dancing before and they literally blew everyone away!...some of the best dancers this country has ever seen, personally, i was in awe of them at the cats...if im correct , and im sure dave.k will back me up, jacko passed away some years ago? rob.h
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A Celebration Of A Life
may and me didnt get to meet maggie very often but on one of the few occasions i offered to take dave to ludlow to do a set on sunshine radio and maggie met may properly then. it was a good hour/quarter drive so plenty of chatting great tunes for two hours, then the charlton arms by the bridge for copious amounts of beer for dave and andy.v whilst we brought up the rear on coke and lemonade!, oh and several baskets of doorstep sized chips!!....then back to london heights with dave leavin a smoke trail behind. its funny because the first time i took dave to the station the year before he witnessed me chatting up my future partner on the phone-in...how ironic is that?. will never forget either the train journey's from wolvo to london for the 100 club...dave was a godsend with the groupie tickets...£7 return? HOW GOOD WAS THAT?!...with ken,mr. preston, carl and a host of others. you guys out there witnessed her devotion to dave and the scene far more than us but on the occasions we were local we did see maggie with her man and we always had a chat....we both agree with this thread.....EVERYBODY OUT THERE, WEAR YOUR HEARTS ON YOUR SLEEVES AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS ....MAKE MAGGIE AND DAVE'S BOOK TALK. MAY AND ROB
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What Killed Wigan Casino?
didnt realise maxim's was a shopping mal is it b.o.g.o.f then on admission?
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Joe 90
im having an arkwright attack ken....IIIIIIIIITS THE WRONG FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLAMING TRACK GRANVILLE...PPPPPPPPAINT IT BLLLLACK YER DOPEY APETH! ROB.H
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Joe 90
joe 90 part of our childhood, played theme tune at mod disco's....ken knows that and by barry gray. lord sitar booted by soussan but original capitol issue. cochise?...huge!, footsie ....soussan even did an acetate with car horns on and no world cup crowd!. pop records galore all points north, south, east and west and for how many years? and we castigate r n b....our scene evolves like the gaudi in barcelona and it feels like its been around for centuries.....dont you just love it!. dance to the music?...we did at stoke nye to sly & the family stone, dance floor rammed, 1000 people cant be wrong?, well done dave.e. fast forward connie stevens....yes, youve heard this one already on SS but richard,s given it his stamp of approval and he's no schmuck!...see, were still finding them now. oh, and talking about theme tunes, here's one to make pete.s's neck hairs stand on end, and wednesfield man...."locke's theme" by bob's band on atco and tho' you want to hang winstanley high, he played that at the casino!. rob.h
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Don't You Dare Laugh At Me
AYE UP LAD, SEETHIN BECOZ I DIDNT LOOK AT YOUR LIST SOONER AND MISSED A COPY OF PRINCE & PRINCESS SO: YOUR MISSION.....FIND ANOTHER ONE PRONTO!!! ROB.H
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Help Wanted
DEFFO JJ JACKSON..(SHO' NUFF) GOT A GOOD THING GOIN' ON WEA CD "SOCK IT TO EM' SOUL...TORCH/TWISTED WHEEL SOUND THE AGENT
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Instrumentals That Are Better Than The Vocals
ah!....you must have heard the rumour that john pugh has the vocal to 6 x 6?. j.p. used to say to me i was imagining things....im not ready to be sectioned yet! rob.h
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One Of Your Fav Sounds That Was Nackerd By You Or Your Mate Or Your Self
had a uk demo of ray pollard "aint that a sad thing" with no middle, scoured bag of records in attic and found a 60's pop record on coloumbia which just so happened to be a red and white demo....with a removeable middle...which i did...i then proceeded to attempt to glue it in with superglue, a side up....and in the process spilt some glue on the vinyl....OH DEAR!! tried to remove it with acetone but it dug a hole in the vinyl like a navvy diggin up tarmac!! rob.h
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Which One Artist Is The King Or Queen
major lance, roy hamilton, marvin jones( jack montgomery)....LETS PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE....THEY HAVE A REPETOIRE OF SONGS THAT, FORTUNATELY DUE TO US HAVE BEEN TAGGED, IN THE MAIN WITH THE "NORTHERN SOUL MONIKER"....IT JUST SO HAPPENS CERTAIN TRACKS HAVE THE RIGHT APPEAL FOR THE DANCEFLOOR...and of course there's curtis, marvin and jackie wilson. rob.h
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The Best Record Cleaner Yet
by eck lad, can thee brush teeth wi'it as well? rob.h
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Souled Out
hit the nail on the head there big fella, PROFILE with those adds...IF EVERYBODY WATCHES IT REGARDLESS OF OPINION...ITS A SUCCESS ANY WAY!...more than the mindless junk that the youth of today worship. you know when you look at QUAD it looks dated ( which is what it was meant to be ) and the acting, in places is wooden but its a LANDMARK that portrayed to the world what the mod culture was about.to a mod... it was saying...LOOK AT ME!!. THIS SCENE OF OURS IS, WITHOUT DOUBT, THE BIGGEST CULT MUSIC MOVEMENT ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET AND ITS PLAYED ON EVERY CONTINENT, in the 70's the ugly scourge of journalism didnt do us any favours and tried to bury us as a fad...huh! and paul o'grady with misplaced reverance made us blush temporarily (cringe...oh no, not again! ) but as the dust settles again we relax, safe in the knowledge that the media has given us a more realistic and sharper focus, thanks to some clever marketing by....none other than northern soulies in suits with a substantial I.Q. plus, the compilers of cd s with attitude and sleevenotes to match....applause for ady, tony, tim and richard and last but not least, the sound emitted from the airwaves. so, weve had quad...now northern soul takes to celluloid....i used to love saturdays at the abc minors in walsall and a ZOOM and cheering on flash gordon!....THATS AN IDEA....WE CAN ALL STAMP OUR FEET FOR JENNY ELLISON WHEN SHE DOES A TWIRL!! rob.h