Roburt

Ohhh dear ...I am getting sooo bored of the constant hype of OVO DJ's & their personalities!!! I was never star struck and although I respect CC's past exploits in the Strange World of NS, I'd rather hear him play a great jazz or Modern Soul format set than somebody play a rare soul 45 set on OVO.

Lou Barreto sent me a copy of Gloria Jones "Gone With The Wind" in March 2011 on CD and I played it as it was OCDO back then. Now there's a UK 45 with this track on, can I still play it as OCDO or do I have to buy a copy of the 45 to get to play it out ?? ... BTW, I think the OVO issue is a load of pigs-poo, hence my recent posts under this thread !!!

...... first uk release on grapevine when theres a 60s release in the us is not OVO ...... But I adjust the pitch on the deck controls (slowing it down a few BPM as we're all a lot older now) when I play my ol Grapevine 45's ... I then call it the 'Ro-burk Mix' and as it's an 'original' I can play it as OVO.

Colin did get 'slated' (mainly on here) for daring to DJ at a 70's club revival night and playing off of CD (maybe even CD-R). Most (all ?) Modern Soul DJ's have to play off CD-R as they feature numerous 'down-load' only tracks & these have to be played off CD-R at a soul do. Surely if you have bought a down-load track you are allowed to copy it onto CD without obtaining a special license ? (I always do to ensure I don-t 'loose' the track if my laptop 'crashes').

I'll be lending you my ears ... ... might even have to listen to the last show before I sample the 'Holy Spirit' edition.

Tenor sax man Noble "Thin Man" Watts was from Florida and went to A&M University (1942). After he'd finished college he teamed up with Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams, recording with him for Jax (1952) and playing behind Dinah Washington, Amos Milburn and Ruth Brown on the mid-1950s 'Showtime at the Apollo' TV show. In 1954 Noble signed with DeLuxe, who released the 45 "Mashing Potatoes"/"Pig Ears and Rice". By 1956 he was on Vee-Jay with Paul Williams' band ("South Shore Drive") but signed a personal deal with New York based Baton Records. With his band, Noble enjoyed releases with "Easy Going", "Blast Off", "Shakin" & "Flap Jack", etc for Baton from 1957 to 1959. His biggest track was "Hard Times (The Slop)" which made it onto the US Pop charts in December 1957. Boxer Sugar Ray Robinson had became his manager during the late '50s and remained in this role into the early '60s, Noble leading the house band at the boxer's Harlem lounge. His later releases (during the '60s) for Sir, Cub, Enjoy, Peanut, Jell, Clamike, and Brunswick enjoyed little sales success but he made a comeback in 1987 with a fresh album on Kingsnake (later picked up by Alligator). He was still recording in 1993, by then being signed to Ichiban's Wild Dog label. During the 1960's, he still played loads of live shows and returned to Florida (Miami) for some engagements.

Billy Wells seemed to establish himself in Miami at the same time as Kim Tolliver ... Kim was fetched down there by Sam & Dave after performing with the duo on their nationwide Revue Shows. She seems to have liked Miami (what's not to) & settled there, performing solo shows not connected to S&D. Don't know if Kim (long established on the Cleveland club scene) had anything to do with Billy (also long established on the Cleveland club scene) relocating to Miami, but they were good friends back up in Cleveland in the early 60's.

I wonder if there is film / video footage anywhere of the dance -- the AGENT OO-SOUL -- that Mi Mi & Cal Roberts did ??

Direct from Chicago's 'MUSIC BOX' ...

The cross-dressing Jerri / Jerry Jones .... .. down in Miami from Ohio (though she wasn't originally from there) ... .... a right PAL (associated with BRA) ....

Bob, a few days ago you asked me about Miami groups I wanted details on (been away watching William Bell, so couldn't answer then) .......... ANYWAY .... My original comment wasn't about any particular group .... but there seem to be lots of male & female Miami / Florida based 60's group that we don't know who the members were or when people came & went in their line-ups. Singers who went solo, such as the likes of Snoopy Dean, Paul Kelly, Annette Snell, Clarence Reid we know about which group they came out of coz they were written about during their solo years ... but lots of other local groups seemed to have very high profiles on the local 'white show room' & 'black' club scene without much of anything being known in detail about them. I know Jeff Leimlich's site contains good info, but there are still big gaps. When I asked about Jerry / Jerri Jones little seemed to be known about her time down in Miami (except the info I got from Jerry Williams who produced her Miami tracks) ...ALSO .... Kim Tolliver was an everpresent on the Miami club scene for a few years but nothing much is known about her time there (she was even billed as Kim Tarver for a few months after a type setters error). Not too much is known about another Cleveland guy that had a group down there; Billy Wells (who fronted the Invaders / Outer Limits). His exploits back up in Cleveland are known about ... but not too much (I believe) after he relocated to Miami. But there are numerous other artists (Helen Glover for instance) and groups I'd like to know more about.

I woudn't try anifin on that there Tamla-Toytown label .... that's just a later rip-off of Stateside which was a real OVO label .... the uda un (T/Mot) came after so cain't be OVO .... Same with Atlantic & Stax ... only try playing out wiv London-American label stuff ... And as for Chess ... nope, can only play a US Chess track on UK if its on a Pye International R&B series logo 45.

BTW, in addition to no Fish sorting out the Modern Room .... Different guys organizing the radio (if there will indeed be a radio stn next time) ... ... seems we will not get Bernie O'Brien's great backing band & singers supporting the live acts either. LOTS of changes then for the 'New' Prestatyn !!!

Do you like cruisin ???? Are you a soul fan ??? WELL if you said YES to both the above questions read this .... Jeffrey Osborne may not be a fan of cruises, but he is a fan of Don Cornelius. So much so that the former L.T.D. frontman had no trouble signing on for his first "Soul Train Cruise" in light of one strong reason. "It is Don Cornelius. That really inspired me, just being a part of it because it's the first one. It's always nice to be a part of the first one," Osborne shared with EURweb's Lee Bailey, while touting another factor in being on the cruise: "On top of that, to work with George. I mean George Duke is probably one of my all time favorite people in the world. He did produce my first three records. It just looks like something that I think everyone would like to be a part of. The list of artists on this is just ridiculous." In addition to Osborne and Duke, the 2013 "Soul Train Cruise" will include performances from Patti LaBelle, The O'Jays, Kool & the Gang, War, The Spinners, Jody Watley, Harold Melvin's Blue Notes, Russell Thompkins Jr. & The New Stylistics, Cuba Gooding & The Main Ingredient, Gerald Alston of the Manhattans and The Intruders. "For me, it's gonna be fun to be able to mingle with all these people that I have worked with over the years and at the same time pay tribute to Don Cornelius, who, really, was the person that tied us all together and kept our careers going," Osborne said. "Even when we weren't hot, Don was still there for us. So for me, it's just going to be a great event. I'm looking forward to it."

Is this a piccy of the Helen Glover who cut "Just Like That" for Nelber Records ? This Helen Glover was from / performed in Miami from (at least) the mid 60's to late 70's ....

No one know if the Nelber lady was the Miami Helen Glover then ??? Helen was still around (& singing) in Miami over 11 years later ...

Come on Chalky, don't hold back ... say what you mean old chap !?!?!

Phil, the top grade of chalet is just about OK .... ... by hotel 'room comfort' standards I'd class Prestatyn's 'top grade' chalets as 1 to 2 * (star). If the weather ain't too severe, then you should live through the experience OK.

It's not EXACTLY the same ...... ... but it is just about the US equivalent of NS. Loads of 'old track's reissued on Beach labels as well (some legal, some boots).

Missed you at Cleggy Keith !!

Mentioned that one in my opening post JB ... though I didn't mention it's UK release.

Well Snowy got a real gud deal then when he bought my mint issue for about £5 !!!!! ..... mind you, that was almost 40 years back.

Brett, the above may have been prompted by the 'attacks' on CC that took place on here after he DJ'ed a '70's club' revival night & didn't play OVO (or even any vinyl at all hardly). I'm with you entirely, if you want to transcribe your collection onto CD-R & play those out, then everything's just fine. There are those (especially on here) though that will only accept OVO being played at all do's (& it's impossible to play OVO at a Modern Soul night as lots of the top sounds have never been released on vinyl).

RE: Any "modern" acts on ? None have been announced so far .... BUT ... with Richard Searling now being the organizer of all things 'Modern' at the new Prestatyn Weekender (& Richard -- along with Ralph -- owning / running Expansion Records) ... I'd be amazed if an Expansion-related artist didn't put in an appearance in Nth Wales next March .... ..ALL THE ABOVE (regarding live acts) is just guesswork though & I know nowt really.

RE: is fish involved ? ..... NO ...... he is not involved in any way, shape or form with regard to organising or sorting out this event. I believe he has been asked to be one of the DJ's in the Modern Room but that's it. So the Modern Room set-up (co-ordination, layout, acts, DJ line-up, etc) will be nothing to do with Fish. Guess he will DJ there though as he will be there 'selling his wares' (he is a 'dealer' by trade after all). Don't think Mark Randle & Co. will be organising the radio stn happenings either ........ ALL THE OLD PONTIN'S GUYS involved with the Prestatyn weekenders in the past have also gone ... ... so basically (as I understand it).. it's Britannia + others as promoters + John Poole as front man (& 60's room organiser).