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Frank Abel at work ...

The Cobblestone 45 would have escaped some time around August 68 ... at that time, Stan Vincent was mainly working on tracks for Bang, Kama Sutra & Buddah Records .... BUT his work for those labels was all tagged as either for Progressive Media Inc (PMI) or for Music Dynamic Corp. not for G.S.G., the production company this release is badged up with ... JUST MAYBE, the CJ 45 came out earlier and the Cobblestone release followed on afterwards. The music piublishing on the CJ 45 is also different to the Cobblestone release (on which it's assigned to Kama Sutra Music), again this leads me to think that the CJ release is from a bit earlier. "She Must Have Heard" is still registered with BMI, via Kama Sutra Music.

Frank Abel was the writer of YOUR ATUMN OF TOMORROW, the leader of the Crow and the lead singer on the track ... ... he's on Facebook if anyone wants to 'friend him' and drop him a message about the record .... https://www.facebook.com/frank.abel.39

Luther was never that lucky in love ... even when loving em was wrong ...

Two obvious ones ...

But it had dancin for 10,000, what's not to like ??

I'd put up scans of the CJ 45 ... but it seems I'm currently unable to post jpegs on here ... . . . . . . . it's working now ...

It seems to be the same track ... the mastermind behind the CJ 45 was Stan Vincent (the guy also behind the Crow 45 on Inner Ear) ... Stan worked out of New York and was a staff member at Buddah Records around 1968/69/70 (an in-house producer/arranger and songwriter). Joe Fields Cobblestone Records was distributed by Buddah at that time and was on the look-out for 45's to license ... guess that's where the link originated. There's guys on here who have met / talked with Stan, so maybe one of them knows more about this.

Watts Chelsea Bank (Heritage) was a May 71 release, the Red Fox 45 seems to date from earlier (69?) and that label was based out of Pittsburgh ... producers Gary Knight & Gene Allan seemed to have some Canadian connections as they had a 45 out on Roulette by Castle Creek (A Canadian rock band) around the same time that the Heritage 45 escaped ... As writers, (earlier on) Gary Knight had worked a lot with Bob Crewe AND Gene Allan had written songs with / for Bobby Vinton, then the Archies. He went on to do songs cut by the likes of Marian Love, Jay & Techniques, Donny Beaumont, Jimmy Jackson, Sarah Dash, Floaters, Don Downing, Lenny Williams, Marlena Shaw, Loleatta Holloway, etc (some of those songs written with Gary Knight). In 74, the two guys produced (& wrote) for J Kelly & Premiers (Roadshow / UK People).

The article is more about them remembering their days in Manhattan / Greenwich Village clubs in the mid to late 60's and not a full career rundown .. so it doesn't seem strange to me that the interviewer didn't touch on who were their managers back then (or later).

August 68 Soul Allniter @ Queens Hall ...

First person to use the venue for a similar show was Pete Stringfellow a few years earlier (Whit Monday 68) ...

In New York in 69 to spread some blues around ...

.... STRANGE BUT TRUE .... It seems that the idea for CELEBRATE was originally hatched during a show @ the Cafe Wha .... ALSO ... ... the club's exterior is seen in a scene during the SHAFT movie (it's also seen in another movie). A more contemporary soul song performance @ the club ...

A decent article on Kool & the Gang in a New York magazine ... In it, they talk about their early days playing in a Greenwich Village club; Cafe Wha. The club was owned / run by (rocker) David Lee Roth's uncle. Back then, they were still known as the Jazz Birds and used to dress like hippies and go to a number of Manhattan area clubs .... https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/06/25/kool-and-the-gang-put-the-fun-in-at-cafe-wha

A few off the WMBM charts ...

More from WMBM ....

Down in Miami ...

The new edition of SOUL UP NORTH mag is out .... if you want to know the full story behind THE CROW, buy your copy now ...

About the best places to find info on Ronnie are on Soulful Detroit OR on here ... see earlier thread ...

Another from Johnny ...

His partner in crime @ Suron Publishing & Productions (SU_san / RON_nie) .....

As the clip in the 1st post of this thread stated ... Ronnie started his own record label (Gold Dust) ... AND ... he had big plans for it ... but the label only managed 2 x 45 releases and all the other acts he worked with were placed with other labels ... no idea why (one of the labels he licensed stuff to was Roulette and he can't have had many hopes that they'd treat him right) ... it seems Lee Horne was also in a NY studio cutting stuff for Ronnie's Gold Dust, but nothing seemed to escape the tape vaults .... wonder what happened to his label and it's big plans ... guess we'll never know ...

He quite quickly progressed from being just a singer ... he got into writing, then arranging, then production work ...

Another picture heavy thread from me ... Ronnie Savoy was on the music scene for well over 10 years BUT look for detailed info on him now and there ain't too much out there ...