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Seller also has an "ultra rare" Mungo Jerry - In The Summertime I think it was a hit all over the world and was No 1 in the UK for the whole summer when it came out. 10/10 for trying though.

I've just realised I did! I'm old enough to have been there first time round, I heard NS and went to a couple of local nights, I even went to Wigan once (about 1975) but was never really "on the scene". I lived in York at the time and going to York Soul Club these days I know nobody that I could/would have known in 1975. In 1995 I was working in Camden and for my wife's birthday I went into one of the record shops and bought some original soul LP's for her (Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye etc). She has always liked soul music and even has a small collection of NS boots from the 70's. I didn't collect records really though I did have some LPs. Listening to the LP's and Helen's bootlegs got me hooked; I even put up a website called "Our Northern Souls" (geddit? - we were living in London). More for doing the website to be honest, the tinterweb was still relatively a novelty then. I joined the internet mailing list "keepingthefaith", conversed with other people who had been into Northern Soul for ages, heard new music (to me), bought some records off Pete Smith (he sent me a tape and list of records no more than a tenner) and went from there. 1997 saw me meeting Jo and Martin - we had only conversed in cyberspace - and These Old Shoes was born. I went to my first allnighter in 1998 - 100 club - at the age of 41. I now talk almost as good a load of b*ll*cks about NS as the next man, although I am still not sure of the difference between an oldie and a newie. So I got into Northern Soul via the Internet and social networking! Cheers Paul

The only issue I have had with a (very) few sellers in the states is when they massively overgrade a record and when you take it up with them they offer you a refund if you send it back. Sounds OK? Anything expensive goes back, but if it is a cheap record it isn't worth returning as in most cases you have to send it tracked (£8 = $12) and you only get the refund for the amount of the record. You can end up spending $40 and getting $20 back plus no record. I'm sure they know it isn't worth the return so deliberately send you a trashed record, one guy claimed that I had trashed the record as it was OK when he sent it! (I had to throw it away). I'm sure that they look on your ebay feedback, see that you buy Northern Soul (sometimes at a high price) and think you have fiddled them in some way and so send you a trashed record. Maybe I'm just bitter, and it is only a few sellers. These days I try to buy from sellers that I know but when you find a good record that someone has listed in amongst a load of rubbish you grit your teeth once you've won and prepare for the iffy packaging; iffy grading; will they send it; etc. Funny old game Cheers Paul

I think I'm on the side of those that think that buyers who repeatedly claim they haven't got things are just dishonest. The standard post (UK and from the states) is surprisingly efficient. I can only remember two parcels not getting here from the states; one was back in 98 and was a pack of cheap records, the other was last year sent insured but only tracked in the country of origin - I'm convinced it was stolen at this end by someone in the postal service who saw the value of the insurance and knew it wasn't being tracked in this country. I got my money back but lost £30 on the exchange rate change (and postage) over the time it took to sort out. So no Troy Dodds and minus £30 for the privilege. I actually think it is safer getting records via the standard postage as long as there isn't a high value on the front. Isn't it a good rumour that the Hatton Garden diamond merchants send all their stuff standard post because it is so anonymous and so stuff never gets stolen? Or was that in a film? As a seller I won't send anything that has been paid for by paypal unless the buyer pays sufficient postage for it to be insured to its value. Post goes missing all the time and people are dishonest. With paypal always finding for the buyer it is too easy for people to pay standard post and then claim it hasn't arrived. Saves them the cost of the record. The b*st*rds! I agree with MB - chop their nadgers off.

Spat my coffee out! errrr.... your tongue is in your cheek there, yes?

Just received an almost pristine demo of this if anyone would like one: Carolyn Cooke - I Don't Mind - RCA 8553 WLP - M- 50 It's not on my web site yet, you can listen to the tune (not from this copy) [here] Recorded post included, Special Delivery is £3 extra, paypal welcome at no extra charge. Please pm me if you would like it. Cheers Paul Edit: And it's in a company sleeve

Can anyone see the irony of having this debate on an internet forum?

That's ridiculous! People have more money than sense.

I think you were, somebody bought it. Not me though, love the tune but I just can't do with the lyric: " ... we were so happy So ginger and snappy .." No wonder its called For Crying Out Loud!

The rarest record I own is my 1975 (?) West Ham cup squad "Bubbles" 45 on US demo - found it in San Francisco. 1 known copy. I used to have it in my sales box for a laugh but most people never noticed it. After noticing this I stopped taking a sales box out with me. God knows what people are looking at when they go through a record box.

One of these up on ebay [here] with a couple of days left.

There's a VG+ one on ebay [here] fpr $7.99

There's a pile of them on ebay [here] - the lowest price mint one (he says unplayed) is $4.49 Buy it Now

The Ruth Brown is a gorgeous tune, got one off ebay the other day. There are 3 on ebay [here] - one is Buy It Now for $5 and only lists the b side (Papa Daddy). Cheers Paul

It's a christmas offer ................ ............ buy one get three free

True

If you're still looking for this there is a mint demo (Lendo) just gone up on ebay [here] - you'll need to beat my snipe though

I've never heard of speedlimit records but I believe Paul's Records - Selling Rare Northern Soul are wonderful to deal with.

After reading this a couple of times, you know what? I think you've got it spot on. Top post.

Gil Scott-heron - The Bottle - This is guided at £10 - £20 and is on various labels (Turbo, arista). There's a groovy french pic sleeve copy on ebay [here] Soul Tambourine - Betty Lavette - don't know it and it isn't in JM's guide. Rough copy on ebay [here] for $40 (or maybe less) Just like the weather - Nolan Chance - this is on Constellation (£250 - £300) and Bunky (£1500) though it has been bootlegged Hope that helps.

I'm sure this has been discussed on here before and the word was that the record sold so well they needed to put out more copies. They had run out of the current multi-coloured labels so recycled some blank red/white ones (hence the mis-spelling of You're). Which makes the multi-coloured one the first press. edit: Though the red/white is rarer. Also I believe there are other later issues on the label which are red/white labels? I may have dreamt this though as I have the multi coloured copy (and thankfully only paid about £25 for it some years ago). Perhaps someone could do a search for the offending thread? (I can never find anything I'm afraid).

There's a copy of this on ebay [here] - it's not a clean copy but it is an $8.00 start with a soundfile . edit: There's actually a couple more: A M- one [here] - label is not the usual one though, not seen this before. and a VG+ one [here] - 0.99 start for this one!

That's the difference between price and value in a nutshell: you would normally sell it for 15, you sold it for 25, you think it is worth no more than 25, your could have sold it three times for 25 so could probably have sold it for 40.

I think you've missed the point. It's not about the choice of medium or keeping up to date or what is more convenient. It is about finding, owning and (if you are lucky) playing to others the original product. Your argument is the same as the one Bill Gates used to suggest that if you could digitise all art and then have the digital images on your wall to look at, people would then stop going to art galleries to see the originals. Please can someone close this thread now? cos it is boring. People who want original vinyl and travel to hear records on original vinyl will never agree with people that can't understand why its not OK to play bootlegs, CD's or mp3's at these events. People who play CDs etc at events are not wrong in any way they are just different events for different people. That's it. Apart from tracks that are CD only. ...... .... Bugger.

Something doesn't look quite right about the bidding but it is hard to tell as ebay hide the bidders ID's. Both were won by the same person (t***t with 18 feedbacks) who looks like he had large snipes placed. On the Trade Martin the under bidder was a***o (89 feedbacks) who seemed to push the bidding up in the last 15 minutes or so of the auction from $150. He pushed it past l***6 (20 fb) and then 10 bids later (in 10 minutes!) past o***o (109 fb) who had two bids of $250 and $300. Odd for a record that is £30 in the price guides. On the Hannibal the under bidder was our friend o***o (109 fb) who again had two bids of errrr $250 and $300 before t***t struck again with an overbearing snipe. Again, odd for a record that guides at £30. I might have a look at a few other of the sellers completed auctions to see if there is a pattern or I might just go out and have a few beers at York Soul Club and consider if I am just an old cynic or not. It is probably nothing other than a couple or more people in the same area of the world who are both after a couple of records that are getting some plays in that area. Who knows? edit: actually a***o appears on a few of his completed auctions