Chalky

Bit like northern

I don"t disagree with anything you say Pete. My introduction was through what you describe, the classics, Motown etc. but it evolved to cover just about everything from the 60's to today. Like I said earlier we can argue all day long about the specifics and simply because it doesn't interest you what happened after any separation doesn't mean it should be dismissed as not Northern. The same arguments were being had wit the Wigan Mecca split and today the arguments are no different.

Cheers mate, hope you are well.

Northern isn't a musical genre though. It is a scene made up of different musical genres. R&B is every bit Northern as the Wigan pop & Modern.

Gritty = R&B?

But Northern isn't a genre jet a term for a scene in the UK isn't it? We could argue all day about specifics but to me if it is played at a Northern Venue then it's Northern. No different to pop, soul and other genres of music being played at venues. Leaving aside the Northern thing, what genre would you class Irma?

If you select will ship worldwide I think it shows on the US sites and others round the world.

And here's ten from me..... https://www.mixcloud.com/beatsofmusic/karl-white-straight-from-the-play-box/

Any other clues? What year etc?

But the other three have had massive exposure/plays on the northern scene so that would make all four as northern as anything? Maybe not your traditional northern but northern none the less.

I've a day off and I'm keeping from under the toes of our lass so I recorded a second instalemtnn for Ian Clark in the ever continuing Stafford Story. Some great late Wigan/Yate and Stafford plays. https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/StaffordTOTW/files/fd9cf2754bf676f80bad048b9b77f102-49.html Eddie Jasper Daye’s Four Bars - Lean On Me (When Headaches Get Rough) - Dayco Chuck Holiday - Just Can’t Trust Nobody - Gloria Jimmy Holiday - Shield All Around - KT Premonitions - In Love Together - Jade Eddie Daniels - Is He Better Than Me - Boots Delettes - Look At Me - Blue Rock Barbara Jean & The Lyrics - Why Weren’t You There - Big Hit Entertainers - I’m In Love With You - HMC Charles Sherrell - Things You Do For Love - Muscle Records Glenda McCloud - No Stranger To Love - H.G.E.I. J.P. Robinson - Our Day Is Here - Blue Candle Bobby Rich - There’s A Girl Somewhere For Me - Sambea Montclairs - Wait For Me - Sunburst John & The Weirdest - No Time - Tie Don Varner - Tear Stained Face - Quinvy Chi-Lites - She’s Mine - Blue Rock The Ideals - You Lost I Won - Satellite Bobby Reed - You Are - Claytown/Brunswick Charles Perry - How Can I (Keep From Crying) - Magnum/MGM Lord Luther - My Mistake - Schireck Montclairs - Hey You! Don’t Fight It - Arch Ruby Andrews - Just Loving You - Zodiac Lonnie Russ - Say Girl - Kerwood Ozz & His Spurlings - Can You Qualify - Goldenway Garland Green - Ain’t That Good Enough - Revue Bobby Hutton - Come See What’s Left Of Me - Philips John & The Weirdest - Can’t Get Over These Memories - Tie 49 podcasts now uploaded, well over 50 hours of listening pleasure!!

Wasn't it covered as Over and Over Again or something like?

Earnestine Eady wasn't it on Phil La Of Soul.

Some need to look at the origins of Rock 'n Roll.

Been a while since I recorded a podcast as I've been busy gathering the tracks for more podcasts but anyway here is the latest instalment featuring the records of Ian Clark. https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/StaffordTOTW/files/cba283833c47239f904bd58c905aa944-48.html Norma Jenkins - Airplane Song - Maltese Antiques - Go For Yourself - LaSalle Vondells - Hey Girl You’ve Changed - Airtown Utopias - Girls Are Against Me - Lasalle Excuses - Trick Bag - Vivace Tommy Knight - Don’t Bring Back Memories - Abtone Acetate Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms - Unissued Acetate Frank Everrett - Spellbound - Big Smokey Great Lakes Orchestra feat. Lou Ragland - This Is The Night For Loving - Great Lakes Recording Inc Prince Philip Mitchell - I’m So Happy - Atlantic Bobby Kline - Say Something Nice To Me - MB Margie & The Formations - Sad Illusion - COED Jimmy Castor - Just You Girl - Smash Virgil Murray’s Tomorrow’s Yesterday - I Still Care - Kool Kat Joanne Courcy - I Got The Power - Twirl Little ann - Lean Lanky Daddy - Unissued Acetate The Professionals - That’s Why I Love You - Groove City Eric Mercury & The Soul Searchers - Lonely Girl - Sac Seven Souls - I Still Love You - Okeh Cashmeres - Showstopper - HEM Argie & The Arketts - You’re The Guy - Ronnie Tony Middleton - Spanish Maiden - Storm/Speed Shadows - My Love Is Gone - USA Kell Osborne - Small Things - New Bag Bobby Wisdom - Handwriting On The Wall - Out A Site Willie Tee - Please Don’t Go - Nola Springers - Nothings Too Good For My Baby - Wale

Whatever. I doubt very much either Butch or Andy, or many others play records because only they have them, they also play them for the love of the music and because they feel and have faith in the music. They wouldn't spend all the hours they do and have down seeking out these records if they didn't "feel" the music. Neither would they be where they are if they didn't have exclusives, and quality exclusives at that. Neither of them are simply about exclusives either, both play cheap records, well they aren't cheap for much longer as the price of many of the cheapies Butch has played haven't stayed cheap for long. P.S. Not good enough maybe the wrong choice of words, maybe should have said not to their taste or fit in with what they believe?

There are half dozen for sale on discogs.

Rob Marriott early 90's.

I realise Nev was being tongue in cheek. I was just giving an opinion why Butch is up there with the best there has been.

Butch achieved legendary status on this scene a long time ago. He has done more for the rare soul scene than any other DJ IMO simply because of the length of time he has been at the top and for the amount of records he has discovered and introduced to the scene, both for himself and for others. There is probably only Andy Dyson who has come close the last few years in terms of discoveries, both for himself and for others, including what he has sold to Butch. The rest are simply sourcing what the likes of Butch and more recently Andy have turned up, if they play something exclusive it is more often than not because Butch or Andy sold it them and deemed it not good enough for them Butch can do everything all the rest can do and far more besides, oldies if he chooses, 60's and 70's. To say he hasn't reach the status of the likes of Sam is ridiculous. Anywhere else he is treated like a god, he is given the respect he deserves not like some in this country who simply like to put those who stand head and shoulders above others down. That is the trouble with the backward looking scene in this country, always ready to knock someone who achieves something more than them. Don't get me wrong Sam is a legend, much loved but he trails like the rest when it comes to the quality and quantity of Butch's discoveries.

From Memory it was Butch, off Rod Shard? Andy Rix got the copy of Barry James and there was one found in a shop in Blackpool.

I think that is cheap for a record that is far rarer than many records that achieve far more on auction. Maybe it isn't in vogue enough for some as they don't hear it at every venue.

I haven't heard the sound file yet but would have to agree with Dave. But if something like the Constellations is £1000 and this plays ok then who knows if someone who wants it badly. The whole market is all over the place with people paying mint prices for records far from mint. This is a genuine rarity, rarely up for sale and alway in-demand, wouldn't surprise me if it fetched £1k.

George Sharp played George Pepp first. Pat Brady for Timmie Williams. Lonette was Guy.

It would be good if the source was quoted in the first place, wouldn't lead to misunderstandings.