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Well how would you dance to it? Sway from side to side? The record in question isn't even a mover.

Probably bit above a beat ballad? Certainly in places. Came out a few times.

The booklet I was talking about can be found in the following topic......

nice one, I actually caught these a week or so ago Will have a look for Peter's

yep I think so.

The story continues this time with the Keb Darge. https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/StaffordTOTW/files/tag-keb-darge.html Dorothy Berry - You Better Watch Out - Planetary Art Falls - I Want YoU Baby - Nautilus (another Keb covered up and used two different cover up names. Jimmy Jackson or Bill Hambric - Got To Have You Baby) Don & Juan - Heartbreaking Truth - Mala Atlantics - What's So Good About Goodbye? - Marquee Peggy Woods - Love Is Gonna Get You - Unissued The Changing Scene - When The City Sleeps - Jo-Vee-Jo Little Charles & The Sidewinders - Talking 'Bout You Babe - Decca (Danny Woods - I'm Talkin' To You) Danny Harrison - Girl, Girl, Girl - Coral (Jesse Davis - Girl) Phonetics - Pretty Girl - Trudel Vince Carey - Don't Worry - Turntable (Gerald Simms - I Belong To You) H.B. Barnum - It Hurts To Much To Cry - RCA Jimmy Seals - The Yesterday Of Our Love - Challenge (The Moving Parts) Willie Harper - But I Couldn't - Alon (Ammbassadors - Trying) J.D. Abram - Doctor Of Love - Reena Tommy Turner - Lazy - Elbam Kenny Shepherd - What Difference Does It Make - Maxx Joe Phillips - I Just Can't Help Thinking About You - Omen Gwen Davis - My Man Don't Think I Know - SS7 (Betty Turner) Tami Lynn - You My Love - Atco (French E.P.) Ruby Rowe - We Love Each Other - Resist Royal Five - My Baby Just Cares For You - Tyler (Fenways - Open Your Eyes I'll Be There) Freddie Scott - Mr Heartache - Columbia Rufus Wonder - Under The Moon - Lendo/Lando Gwen Davis - I Can't Be Your Part Time Baby - SS7 (Betty Turner) Joyce Davis - Hello Heartaches, Goodbye Love - Okeh Four Arts - Who Do You Think You Are - Shee Headlines - He's Looking Fort A Love - Luau (Brooks Brothers - I'm Still looking) The Changing Scene - You Can't Destroy My Love - Jo-Vee-Jo (Steve Mancha) Jimmy Armstrong - Mystery - Shrine Little John - Just Wait And See - GoGate (Jimmy Raye - I'm The Only One (briefly played by Pat Brady but it was that good Keb had to have it) Turbines - What More Can I Say - Cenco Plenty more to come yet so please keep checking back. Hope you enjoy.

I don't disagree with you.

Yes I agree with you Pete. I think plenty spend their time perusing playlists and podcasts etc for ideas for their sets. At the end of the day it matters little how a record was discovered or who has played it (although I like to see credit where credit is due) just the fact if it is good or not.

That was my point Pete, once you have seen both you can clearly tell without the need for matrix deadwax info or the need to have both side by side.

No but what I'm saying is practically every DJ is a collector first and foremost and not a DJ. I agree with you I've seen some with the best box of records some can only dream of owning but they couldn't put a set together for toffee. The vast majority don't have a clue how to work the equipment. Most set ups don't even have a monitor speaker so how on earth you can tell what it sounds like in front of you I will never know.

Influential DJ's are the same on any scene, any genre, not just Northern Soul and the influence of these DJ's has been felt throughout the years of the scene. People have always sought the records of the top DJ's and it takes a top DJ to get it a record to a wider audience. Joe Bloggs at the local miners welfare isn't going to be heard by to many even though he might have a set of unknowns.

99% of DJ's on this scene are simply collectors, intact I can't think of one professional DJ? Not one who makes his money simply by DJing at Northern/Rare/Modern soul events?

At the end of the day Matt it will never change for the mainstream Northern Soul event, most want one type of music all-night, uptempo and 60's. They don't mind the odd variation as long as it is in the style of the classics. Stray to far away even for a few records and people don't want to know, they have no patience and don't care others might be enjoying the music being played. It is a very selfish scene with little patience and no or little inclination for anything other than the norm. We can say what we like on here but the reality is much of what is being discussed here will be restricted to side rooms unfortunately and events that cater for a minority. At least until a large part of the scene disappear once again but I fear that might be too late.

The main reason we moved was cost. A venue the size of the Bell and the outlay in DJ's fee's, equipment etc couldn't be recovered and the dance floor was too small. Great venue for a soul night maybe but not an all-nighter. The conversion and renovation of the rooms didn't effect us really. We got a fantastic deal on the room, £20 a night!! End of the day the manageress didn't want ht hassle of an all-nighter, same with many venues. Many venue owners are just not interested as soon as Northern Soul is mentioned and all-night.

George did two great sets at Lifeline. Admittedly he isn't to everyone's taste but then which DJ is? George doesn't play just funk either, or funky soul, some great soul records in his sets as well.

Sounds a good show and look forward to seeing him at Radcliffe.

The all-nighters the rooms were open to all but only had problems once when fire alarm went off. The main problem was the manageress.

Possibly is Robb. This came on a cd with some other Motown unissued stuff years ago and has been sat on the PC for years as well.

Lifeline had all the rooms for the weekender, no "normal" people as you say. As for the Scottish weekender, I couldn't make the whole weekend, I wanted to go for the Saturday night but I wasn't prepared to pay the full weekend fee for one night (£80 a ticket I think), ridiculous and no wonder no one went really. I shan't be going this year as I will see Darrow Fletcher at one of the other two venues he is appearing at in the country.

Andy Dyson played it out at several venues over here for a while, including those who where those who supposedly can dance and appreciate soul and it didn't work, no one hardly danced Shame as it is a great record.

It is very difficult over here to get them dancing to unknowns the first time. They have to be comfortable dancing.

I've never seen it fill the floor in this country, no matter what time it is played. It is this country we are essentially discussing though, we aren't in Berlin or anywhere else...unfortunately. Oversees they have a different mentality, they dance even when they have never heard a record before, they don't care. Neither do they have the baggage we have, that was Wigan, Stafford, Torch, oldie, newie and so on. For the majority here a record has to be from a certain place and time the majority of the time, what they grew up with essentially. Many oversees are young and just growing up with the music really.

The Story of Northern Soul by David Nowell. Road Through Motown - Ralph Terrana Hype & Soul: Behind The Scenes at Motown - Al Abrams Only Human - Tommy Hunt I'm just reading A House on Fire: The Rise and Fall Of Philadelphia Soul, great reading.

Reading your post and the ones prior it read like a dig, apologies if I misread.

It is worse than average. I asked him to post what it was. It'll be taken down off my sound cloud soon as I need some space.