Chalky

I can't find a sound file for this one on your tube (I can the other side) but one I recommend wholeheartedly is..... Reuben Wright - You Done Me Wrong - Capitol. (Click on the website link of mine and it is in my podcast). It is a forgotten Stafford play of Chris kings only he played an acetate with different lead (one of the producers I think). It was covered as Eddie Holman, you can see why upon listening and it is also a Harthon Production. Brilliant piece of Northern Soul I've got behind/resurrected that IMO has everything. Killa since picked one up and now playing it too. You can get one for around £20, price of a carver and not much more than a boot, who said you can't get decent cheap originals As a bonus great deep soul flip too https://youtu.be/jdEy0SnKPoI

if you own the rights, have the studio tape, permission etc and cut to a carver then it isn't a boot.

Someday The Sun Will Shine actually exists on an acetate. As far as I'm aware 3 or 4 acetates/dubs/cuts (whatever you want to call them, vinyl carvers didn't exist then) were cut by the owner and given to some other DJ's. Any done since......I'll leave for you to decide.

As there has been two or three suggestions for a poll I will set one up. Memory says we have had one before though.

I did read that Robert Bateman could be involved with Hurdy Gurdy (was on Soulful Detroit) and the opinion was a bit divided whether it was a NY label recorded in NY or a NY label recorded in Detroit or done between the two. Not a lot of help.

Well they are booted because they are popular and had a lot of spins at clubs. You don't see many boots of unknowns do you

you look at ebay, sort by highest price and hardly any at top genuine sales, all teasers to get you to visit their shop. I thought this was against ebay rules anyway?

who is royalty? has anyone labelled you anything...no, so no need for you to make things worse by inflaming matters is there just because someone has a different set of beliefs.

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think you will find they are all properly licensed.

I wonder how many Constellations he had, it was everywhere at one time. Gerri Hall for £3 too. Kell Osborne on Loma for £4. where did this first get played? Interesting reading these old lists

Downloads, especially today's modern scene are a legitimate format...paid for and artist gets their money. Northern scene a different matter as they wouldn't be the original format.

As I said if it has been released then I wouldn't play it and I know some DJ's who are more than bit miffed when say a grapevine copy was played when he was on next with an original of a certain record. LTIO has been played from the Soul Series one, looks like the pink Marvin Gaye of Chris Kings only green.

Personally I wouldn't play either of them, the only legit release of LTIO is the one on Kent.

both boots as far as I'm aware. There is only one original of LSH put out by Motown in mid 90's (?) as a promotion at some seminar showcasing a Marvin Gaye cd or something like (?). it was originally played off a cut (carver if you like) as it was sent over here on a cassette originally. Let's Talk It Over taken from a Japanese CD or something like and never issued on a 45. There is another boot of it as well, looks like a 60's UK demo 45.

would you be a guest showcasing your collection? If so then it is your original vinyl only or anything unissued thou might have. If it is just a general radio show playing northern soul then I guess no one will care nor be non the wiser?

Dunno Russ but you are probably right, now a classic. The whole Tony's clip is has different DJ's to the records and different DJ's on the mic to the one on film. Think one clip has Guy in the film and Jimmy Wensiora speaking??? Anyway back to boots......

It was Guy Might be wrong but not sure if Horace issue had been released then? Quick search on Youtube and here is a screen shot of the disc on the decks when Magic Touch started.... (no whistling smiley)

Think the Old Grey Whistle test was showing a cover up and the wrong DJ when it was played, memory could be playing up.

I play it of the Kent Anniversary 45. Horace the first legitimate release (for sale) seeing as it was previously unissued. Any legitimate release is ok although I wouldn't play one if it exists on an original US release, thats just me though others have a different opinion.

If I go up to the decks it's usually to see what the record is, not whether it is a boot or not. You usually know the DJ's playing boots and who plays what anyway, well you do if you take note for nearly 30 years. You know where the really rare records are by and large and if someone plays one you didn't think had one then suspicions are going be raised. Plenty do go up to the decks, whether the motives are due to suspicion or simply to find out what the record is or the label.....or maybe simply compliment the DJ on the particular record.

It was a side project to his producing side of the business, I suppose to boost income. Now it looks like he doesn't have time with producing responsibilities on the rise. Plus there are now others that do it and in some cases better quality, especially on acetate. You could buy one of the cutting machines from Vestax when they first came out, they were around £7k. Discs were something like a few pence each.

Keep it on topic please, enough of the sock colours.

I realise that Kev I know why it is used but like Russ I simply find the term inflammatory and used by those on the defensive and losing the debate, incapable of putting over proper reasoned comments and have to rely on derogatory comments instead. I guess we are all guilty of such comments at times though.