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I see... do you want to talk about the solid centre Timi Yuro?!

Did you see the scan in post 120? Now that has to be rare - if there were two pressings of this, where are all the solid label copies?!

Who me?! Is that not exactly what I said - that the split line runs right round the diameter? And not as a radius? Not exactly on topic, but here's an interesting wee clip of vinyl getting pressed at Archer in Detroit... I presume when making a styrene disc, the mould is in two halves (A-side and B-side) and separates similarly?

Sorry, I don't buy the "injection seam" theory - when the record is manufactured, it's two metal plates which join together and when they separate, the disc is left manufactured. The two moulds would come off vertically - not slide off horizontally, leaving a line across half the disc. If it did leave a line running across the disc, it would leave a perfectly straight line across the entire record, from rim to rim, right through the exact centre spot. If you look REALLY closely at the smooth flat edged rim of a styrene disc, you can see a very thin line running right around the whole edge - THAT's the line where the two halves of the mould separate. I'm afraid, if it looks like a stress fracture on the disc, that's what it is - a hairline crack. One drop, one clumsy mailman, record box packed too tightly - all can cause hairline cracks. And I daresay, some records DID come off the press with hairline cracks manufactured as the styrene material cooled down too fast or there were problems with the press...

Why would a multi-millionaire who's putting on a profit-making venture not pay his DJs?

I like your style... and look forward to further topical sales posts!

Sorry, they've been reserved as a job lot...

WHOLE JOB LOT NOW RESERVED! Selling a wee job lot of six Tamla Motown UK demos. ALL REDUCED! TMG 551 - THE ELGINS "Put Yourself In My Place" (red & white demo) VG £250 £200 Record has most of its gloss, but has a few surface marks. But it plays well, with just some very light surface during intro, B-side has a couple of swooshes before the music starts. So, looks VG, plays better than grade. Labels are clean, no writing. TMG 654 - BOBBY TAYLOR "Does Your Mama Know About Me" b/w "Fading Away" (green & white demo) VG+ £40 £30 "Mike" has decided to put his name in the form of four small letters in a square shape on the A-side label (see scan). Few light scuffs, plays with some light background - close to EX. TMG 690 - STEVIE WONDER "My Cherie Amour" (green & white demo) GOOD £10 £5 Rarer single sided demo (other side white label, plain tone), in pretty poor condition - lots of scuffs and light scratches, collection filler. TMG 782 - THE SUPREMES "Nathan Jones" (green & white demo) VG £20 £15 A few surface scuffs and marks, not far off EX. TMG 805 - GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS "Make Me The Woman That You Go Home To" (green & white demo) M- £25 £20 Nice clean copy TMG 852 - STEVIE WONDER "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" (green & white demo) M- £25 £20 Complete with 7" square info sheet, originally glued onto paper sleeve. Clean vinyl. Total separate price = £290 - will do the whole lot for £250 if interested! Paypal preferred (fee included in price, if you want to do friends and family you can get the discount!), postage extra. PM if interested, thanks!

Out of 14 items, FOUR ended under £100 - THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!

Soul Stacks has one on this week's list... https://www.soulstacks.com/shop/deep-heet-funky-beatbreak-away-heet-ex/

I don't think it sounds the best, sounds like it's mastered off a slightly crackly JA original. Fine once it kicks in, though... Killer track!

Think someone said the ebay copy is a boot?

Selling a wee job lot of six Tamla Motown UK demos. I say a wee job lot, one is the Elgins, so it's a big job lot really... TMG 551 - THE ELGINS "Put Yourself In My Place" (red & white demo) VG £250 Record has most of its gloss, but has a few surface marks which don't look too pretty. But it plays well, with just some very light surface during intro, B-side has a couple of swooshes before the music starts. So, looks VG, plays better than grade. Labels are clean, no writing. TMG 654 - BOBBY TAYLOR "Does Your Mama Know About Me" b/w "Fading Away" (green & white demo) VG+ £40 "Mike" has decided to put his name in the form of four small letters in a square shape on the A-side label (see scan). Few light scuffs, plays with some light background - close to EX. TMG 690 - STEVIE WONDER "My Cherie Amour" (green & white demo) GOOD £10 Rarer single sided demo (other side white label, plain tone), in pretty poor condition - lots of scuffs and light scratches, collection filler. TMG 782 - THE SUPREMES "Nathan Jones" (green & white demo) VG £20 A few surface scuffs and marks, not far off EX. TMG 805 - GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS "Make Me The Woman That You Go Home To" (green & white demo) M- £25 Nice clean copy TMG 852 - STEVIE WONDER "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" (green & white demo) M- £25 Complete with 7" square info sheet, originally glued onto paper sleeve. Clean vinyl. Total separate price = £370 - will do the whole lot for £320 if interested! Paypal preferred (fee included in price, if you want to do friends and family you can get the discount!), postage extra. PM if interested, thanks!

"Whilst still maintaining that the economy is in recovery, with inflation falling and standards of living supposedly increasing for those other than thieving bankers, George Osborne was today unavailable for comment upon being informed that a single sold for £25 on John Manship's world famous barometer of the super-rich's disposable income - a new record low, which has sent shock-waves through one of the most volatile sections of the marketplace..."

The problem is that once things are out of copyright, anything's fair game and legal, they're not even bootlegs. 50 years ago used to seem like a LONG time ago, but now... well, 1965 and earlier means there's plenty of titles in the queue for booting. I like your stance though. It's like prostitution laws - in this country it's the people providing the service who get prosecuted, in Scandinavia it's the end user that gets prosecuted which seems far more effective tackling the problem...

I didn't say anything about a Jamaican copy. Just that there's an (obvious) bootleg. Which someone else reckoned seemed Jamaican... Maybe this merits its own thread, but all the info seems to be stated on this thread!

I think it's four: 1) "A" label demo (with push-out centre) 2) issue copy (with push-out centre) 3) solid centre issue 4) wonky looking solid centre bootleg

I was pondering this exact same issue myself when I saw this auction item. However, it looks totally bang on to me - the exact same label layout as the push-out centre version. The bootleg version looks pretty bad, where the logo should be metallic gold it's actually beige and you can see pixels round it. If you look at the writing credit "Steve Royal" - it should be the same width as the name ESTER BYRDE, but on the boot it's really small print. But the copy Mr Manship is auctioning just looks like a solid centre version of the push-out centre one. Never seen one like that, obviously another pressing came out at the time. Great track and looks like someone got a bargain! PS Does anyone know anything else about Esther Byrde? She sang backing vocals on the first Orange Juice album (probably of interest to me and Pete Smith and two other people on this planet) but never heard another mention... Original: Bootleg:

Is the UK Mums sleeve not just a plain green CBS bag, which doesn't really suit the purple label? Didn't think there was a UK Mums sleeve, just a US one...

There's three different label variants for this, amazing track...

Think you would, you'd be walking away with the shirt off your back missing.... ...only joking!

So maybe the French picture sleeve copies will turn out to be rarer after all. Woo hoo!

Yes!

I'd rather find a UK original on Mums out in the wild...

I'm sure it's not ill thought out at all. It'll be EXACTLY worked out, to make it confusing for buyers and a few will just end up paying the extra and ebay get their 10% cut of the postage fee... shareholders happy, everyone else pissed off.