Chris Turnbull

Interesting couple of hours today - had to go up to Preston for work so decided to call in at Wigan on the way back to see how it has changed with the new shopping centre, etc. Too young to have gone to Wigan but made a pilgrimage mid-1990's when the Casino site was still completely flat and you could walk up the back and stand looking over what would have been the dancefloor, as per an old RW TV feature. At that time you could look along Station Road to the right with the cinema, and it was essentially as it would have been back in the day, minus of course the most important part. However now Station Road appears to have completely gone, and the whole site is virtually unrecognisable. Am I right in thinking the front of the Casino was where the back end of Debenhams is now, directly opposite the blocks of flats? Inside the shopping centre of course you could be anywhere, other than the Casino Cafe which has some memorabilia, record mural, etc. Interestingly a big photo on the wall of the 'Major Lance with crowd' shot which David Nowell's book says was Wigan Tiffanys, not the Casino. NB. imagine living in those flats back then - can't imagine what the residents must have thought, though lucky for some I guess - a short walk home

Great photo

Thanks but it wasn't anyone that well known - more a dance type 12"

Who was it a big tune for back in the day - Searling? Presumably c. 1978 as the Destiny reissue is from 1979

No, again much more modern i.e. with a drum machine type backing and just instrumental I seem to recall All the other versions are essentially the same laid back kinda vibe but this was more punchy

Thanks Baz but neither of those - going to have to go up in the loft and dig out old Manifestos to find Sam's reviews as I'm sure it got a mention in there Again much more 'modern' sounding than either of these, though of course Buddy Miles is a fairly recent recording Faster paced and more dance oriented

Hi Andy, thanks but not that one - meant to include it in the 'no' list As above it was much more modern, definitely a 12" and probably late 80's / early 90's by the sound of it. Also fully instrumental if my memory serves me right - just a blaring sax solo

Still trying to find out what this was - anyone able to find out from Sam now he appears to be up and about again? NOT Bay Bros, Kenny G, Tony Rome or Kellie Evans! I know it is mentioned in Sam's column in an old Manifesto but can't locate it Cheers, Chris.

Any chance of uploading the tapes, or copying onto CD? Would buy a copy

Bought a set of Denon AH-D2000 a few years ago after trying out numerous pairs in HMV and being utterly blown away by the sound quality of these. https://www.trustedreviews.com/Denon-AH-D2000-Headphones-review-denon-ah-d2000-page-2 Was only looking to spend up to c. £100 and the Denon were something like £220, but with hindsight just about the best money I have ever spent - top notch on both hifi and ipod, though there is a fairly chunky cord. Can't recommend highly enough - worth every penny

Had a similar error message the other week so I did it a second time and got the same message, however I realised later that both payments had actually gone through - I would check your payment history to make sure you haven't already paid several times! Luckily the seller (on here) refunded me the second one straight away but it could have caused problems - not sure why it happened and has been fine since

Some superb nights there mid-late 90's - great mix of oldies and newies with Butch and Pat Brady spinning and selling tunes. Remember Butch berating the crowd one time when his Dennis Edwards 'I didn't have to' cleared the dancefloor, but generally a real buzz about the place and always very busy when I was there. Used to go with my good mates from Notts Stuart Leyland and Pete Rear, who I haven't seen for a long time now

When did it peak then - Torch? Casino? Who played it?

I sold a couple of bits via JM auction a few years back and got good prices and real sales - Annette Poindexter 'Wayward Dream' and The Ultimates 'Girl I've been trying'. Both went for something like £450 which at the time (c. 10 years ago) was above what I was expecting. One went to Japan, the other Sweden. JM was great to deal with and all hassle free. If he did hike the prices up behind the scenes I wasn't complaining at the time

Funny how it never seems to get mentioned as a classic Wheel sound

Looked for a youtube clip to upload but doesn't seem to be one. Remix probably a bit of a misnomer, basically it is cut and pasted to give a longer version - presumably Neil Rushton would know more about it

And a long (remixed) version on the 1979 Inferno 'Out on the floor tonight' LP, but sometimes less is more

Brilliant, thanks - anyone confirm?

The strings come on a bit like Gloria Scott 'Lovemaking' - would have been a good cover

So when was it first played / popular - Torch?

And mine, title etched on both sides, plus In - 6311 etched on both sides too. However the ebay one says no numbers, just titles. Mine was sold as an original by a reputable dealer and to me certainly looks like one, but what do I know Are there several variations of 'original' press?

Cheers Ted, enjoyed that one

Ted, re. Blackhearts, what was the big R&B one you played towards the end of your set - a bit like ZZ Hill, something about coffee - great tune

While on the subject of Gwen Owens, just come across this interesting (if knackered looking) Jamaican issue of 'It ain't hardly over' on ebay:- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1015-GWEN-OWENS-IT-AINT-HARDLY-OVER-KEEP-ON-LIVING-JOSIE-REGGAE-45-7-/191336654446?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c8c8da66e The advert lists it as 'reggae' and says recorded in Jamaica, however the audio clip just sounds like my US issue which I assumed was a US recording. Are they correct and it was recorded in Jamaica? Sounds odd to me. Top tune either way

Dug this out of the cupboard, from May 2002 Shades of Soul when 'Little Love Affair' was probably at the height of it's popularity - a quintessential Butch spin of course and a major floorpacker at the time. For me the long intro gives everyone time to hit the floor and get into the groove before the vocals kick in, and so cool how it ends the same way. Used to love hearing it at The Ritz 'Rarest of the Rare' niters, most of which were absolute packers and superb nights, with Butch, Soul Sam, Ady, etc. NB. what happened to the Ritz? Went up to the Neil Rushton one a few months ago and it was virtually deserted - a massive club with hardly anyone in, and no atmosphere apart from downstairs with Ian Dewhirst and about six people in a little room. Doesn't make any sense - one of the last surviving original venues, if there was to be one last great all nighter I would have the Ritz any day of the week - wouldn't that be something! Scan reproduced without kind permission from Derek - hope you don't mind Derek Patrinell Staten.pdf