Hooker1951

No it’s Bristol this week ML

There was loads of music from 1963.onwards that could be classed as NS the term NS only came in approx 1970 but the music already existed and soul music lovers were dancing to it , trust me I seen it, We in this country put our own stamp on it as in Germany and Belgium to a degree, To say Americans didn’t go to venues in groups of people is a sweeping statement there are 350, 000000 people in America 50 states each one like separate country with major cities in each , ie, Detroit , Chicago New York , New Orleans eg each with its own stamp on Soul Music each with Ballrooms, Cellars, Night clubs , underground clubs which hosted many Major Soul Acts, and Soul Acts that were only famous maybe in their home state they would have.had DJ,s playing in between the acts Soul music and RnB as seen on the flyers Roburt posts on here they were in fact probably 5 years before us with the music, Because you didn’t see the scene in the USA and it happened before your time doesn’t mean it didn’t excist, I’ve been to Soul venues and shows in America and they are well attented, We didn’t invent NS in Britain what we did do was put our stamp on it which can only be a good thing. Trust me they had the right chemicals there too, I did a post a couple of years ago about how in Germany they had a thriving Soul and popcorn scene running all nighters, Somebody posted they only had drink there to get high, I explained that the Germans have always had the strongest speed for the last 100 years the German Blitzcreig was fought on it every German soldier sailor , and Luftwaffe pilot was given it , one of the reasons they were winning all the battles at the beginning of the war,So if you could fight on it you could certainly dance Mick L

When I would start even giving these influencers the time of the day is when they could tell me they have been too a 1000 all nighters around 2000 Soul nights and all dayers all over the country, Had over 20 years of getting out of a bed on a Friday morning and not getting back in it till Monday night, Dj,ing and dancing , having a great time with a little help from our friend, helping your mates when their having a downer, making sure their safe etc and carrying on regardless, knowing at least the history of some of the artists that you love to listen too and still carry on with your employment and everyday life, then I might listen, as regards White British stealing black music and claiming it for our own I’m with Chalky on this We along with to a lesser degree European countries kept it going and saved it from being forgotten, That music was recorded for everyone to enjoy on this planet, Do you think for one minute? That those artists who recorded the tunes we love would not be pleased we are listening to them buying them and dancing in to them, I’m sure they would. And just because we had our scene here , there still was a scene going on , maybe a slightly different concept in the USA, I remember being in LA 46 years ago and live bands playing some our favourites n various bars, The Soul scene has been alive now following RnB for over 60 years It’s a very complex scene and way of life yet it is simple in that it is good music good people having a good time 3 ingredients add a little chemical magic and you have a cracking recipe never fails because there are no ego,s involved, It doesn’t really matter what Scene it is there will always be the pretenders watching from the sidelines waiting to reflect on the success and inflate their ego,s in some shape or form and financially if possible.im sure there are to many old Souls on here to be fooled by this influencer nonsense. Mick L

Hi Shinehead I have done and reacted to it, I was the first to react to it

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Who are these People? I’m glad I’ve never met them, Do they really believe that their more important than the music and the thousands that came before them, not including the artists, They come across as Superficial and Me Me Me folk existing on the echoes of NS, Leaves of a Tree, blowing in the wind , They are not that important, ML

Emperors New Clothes Record, sorry if I’ve upset anyone

Help, We’re all doomed, it’s only a short step now to Songs of Praise, and Pantomime, Cartoons Snow white and the 7 Soulies etc etc

Don’t know you Chris but zHappy birthday

Sorry to hear that Martyn, Nogger was a lovely guy ,loved his Soul music , was always loyal to his friends,and a great friend of Neil and Paul, I was always glad to see him at Keele when Neil was running the show, he will be sadly missed but never forgotten, I’ve had some happy memories with him back in the day R i P Nogger Mick L

Here,s three British remakes Hollies ( Searching) Rolling Stones ( You’d better move on ) Bern Elliot n the Fenmen ( Money)

Hi Lionel its artists who have not copy versions and it’s about who you think would’ve done good versions if they had? Mick L

Happy New Year to Mike and the source team and every body on here, We might not agree most of the time, but that’s what makes the world go round, but when we do its well worth it. Just Remember this year if you like what your doing keep on doing it If you don’t stop doing it Good Luck and Best Wishes to Everybody Mick L

Hi Tempest Not those who have made copy versions, those who you think could have done a decent try at the originals ML

Just a bit of trivia, keeping it simple who do you think could have done a good copy of an original Soul recording, just two artists and tunes each please, I’m a believer that originals as a rule btw are always the best, I will start things off. Tom Jones vocals on the Great Chuck Jackson song ( Hand it Over) Levi Stubbs vocals on ( Al Kent the way you’ve been acting lately) just a curious bit of fun ML

NS and any kind of music will last as long as people want to listen to it , as to what format that is in the future remains to be seen, nothing lasts forever sadly so I say live for today enjoy it while you still can, nobody can take your memories away they will last as long you do. And that’s all you can do ML

Hi Roburt Fantastic Artist and performer and Elvis Presley, s favourite singer along with Roy Hamilton, a bit of Trivia, in a scene in Girls Girls Girls movie where Elvis is singing (Return to Sender ) in a night club , Jackie is in the Audience. ML

Hi Mal Same with the Soul Sisters too many to mention and like the Soul brothers a hell of a lot who never got the recognition they deserved, I salute both the brothers and sisters they helped too make my life a lot happier, God knows what we would have done without them! ML

Far too many to mention and too good to be forgotten ML

Here,s another Geno Washington n his ram jam band ( If this is Love ) Mick L

Yes Dave Clarke Five were absolutely massive in America on par with the Beatles, they had a bigger sound using the sax more and a bigger bass line which the American audience seemed to love and of Course Mike Smith on Vocals was a strong presence ML

Good Post I started to watch the big acts of the day in early 1964 there was various tours over the next 3 years or so usually at the local ABC cinemas, there might be 5 or 6 acts on usually 4 British and maybe 2 American acts , Even at the age of 13 I was aware that the American acts were better has a rule than most of ours , there were exceptions of course but not many, eg Charlie and Inez fox second from bottom on bill the acts that followed couldn’t really follow them and they were a n thing at the time , anther what comes to mind was Gene Pitney, everybody that followed him was on a loser, the class of the American artists shone through every time, ML

Here,s Another Gene Chandler ( Check Yourself ) Mick L

Georgie Fame ( Sweet Thing) Tammy Terrell( This old heart of Mine) Wilson Picket ( She,s Looking Good) Mick L

Jackie Wilson Who Who Song You showed me how to be happy Mick L