Modernsoulsucks

It is now but I wonder if it was thart when Mark first posted. He wouldn't put unknown instr when it's a vocal. Some re-alignment of Refosoul? ROD

Looks like a boot to me. Sorry. Value very little. ROD

OVO back in the day and even earlier than 1980 was just a by-product of playing something new. It was nothing to do with OVO in itself. In fact at one time once a 45 had had it's day that was it. Rare OVO or not. My contention is that it should be no different today. If it's one of these so-called upfront clubs the 45 will be on OVO anyway. If it's an oldies do then what does it matter what format the music is on as long as it entertains the crowd. And what would be the point of differentiating between OVO and any format oldies nights, other than on the basis of your own personal preferences/prejudices. AS for soul snobs if us OVO collectors keep having a pop at those places where the rules are lax then it's no wonder others see us as superior or condescending because for a lot of people it doesn't matter. Playing OVO doesn't drive the scene forward, for instance Johnny Howard, Lee Fields. Playing new discoveries does. ROD

I just checked and you're 59!! I now feel inadequate as I can't do the soundfiles. I did ask ages ago for someone nearby to help me set up some vinyl to MP3 convertor or whatever but no kind souls out there and after 2 years it's still in the box!! I may now have a go cos you're right although in my case it's not laziness just fear of f**king the computer up. However whilst your suggestion is helpful for hearing 45s you might not know, most collectors buy 45s using visual grading so it doesn't help that much just to hear that the record plays fine. Play grading at say Ex doesn't mean the record is Ex. More OK to dj with or whatever blurb sellers use to offload a beat copy. ROD

AMEN!!!! And add Mint/Ex/VG+ but cracked ROD

Thank you. That takes me back to the days of hiding my school report from my parents. ROD

I understood your rationale and was attempting to save your fast fading reputation against the strict implementation of the OVO policy as envisaged by Paul. And re.c/u's, yes I believe Bobby Goldsboro was uncovered quite a while back. What's wrong with sellotape and scissors? In this age of web-based design and 1.09mmm 45s I just feel the magic is disappearing!! ROD

Agree with your final two paragraphs although completely unaware of "pooling" practice. Thing is though I could bore you to death with my OVO as no doubt could many others which is why I think the emphasis should be on the "newer" aspect rather than the format. You wouldn't be playing newer stuff on CD anyway unless I guess it was some previously unreleased thing. Adey plays carvers but I suppose he drops the track when it gets released on Kent CD or 45 to make way for next addition to playlist. Unfortunately it's not 1975 anymore and our more cavaliar attitude to the actual records has gone. I think that's a shame as it does seem more of a business rather than a pleasure. I was reminded of this reading Manny results. Imagined conversation at Wigan "Have you got Salvadors,mate" " Yes, the 1.09 mm version" WTF is that about!! ROD

I think it was around £14 and before anybody accuses me of nasty bootlegging it was just the one for a mate and I think I got a pint. ROD

I like it. Reminds me of the Doors and similar in feel to Surrealistic Pillar 45. Not Northern though. ROD

No, you've misunderstood Marc. The Terry Goodnight and Little Charles were regular 45s. ROD

This is true. I did Guy an Emi cos I quite liked the Jackie Day. I did sell him the Terry Goodnight though cos I wasn't keen on the vocal and Little Charles "Talking..." which I got at the same time. ROD

Found this in '92 or thereabouts and sold it to Butch. No idea how cos I've forgotten details but couple of years later me and Alex I think got a contact #. I know we were in Kannapolis which is southern bit of NC and Al went off to meet him whilst I looked somewhere else. Think we got 2 copies off him. Al might remember something about him. Pretty sure it was Al that Alex met although not 100% . ROD

Realistically Mel this is worth bugger-all unless Mint nick and then there's a copy set sale on Ebay at $9.99. If you look at completed listings three went through recently inc a copy in VG++ with no bids on any and all low starts. £5 if you're lucky!! ROD

It's a bit cryptic but are you saying the first copy of the record came from Rich Rosen? Is it then that Rich found "X" number of copies of the 45, got good money, tracked owner down to hopefully get more. Answer was "how many do you want" and owner repressed it. Rich then has originals and represses. Rich doesn't differentiate between the two so bit of a lottery whether you got one or the other. Manny then has reduced value in guide as more copies turn up over here from that one source. Does the guide mention there are represses/reissues? ROD

Well if I were the owner of the other copy and had a fair amount of disposable income I'd certainly be giving that some thought. ROD

I just wish "cottage" had occured to me in relation to Wensleydale as obviously there is no connection with Mr. Winton there. As for "Kraft" I'd discarded that as whichever way you slice it the comedic impact is minimal. You're probably both thinking that hasn't stopped me in the past. ROD

I'd agree with the "frightening prices". Just had a quick look tonight and I saw no bargains. Only time you get something "cheap" is if no one else wants it and if it's in demand it don't matter how many copies are floating about. Last 45 I got was Archie Bell "I can't stop dancing" on a WDJ M-. $10 + $8 postage. That was f**king £12 for a £5 45 if that. ROD

I usually restrict the cheese jokes to midweek. As I was only recently saying to Mr. Winton "Only on a Wendnesly. Dale" ROD

I do try to curd it but sometimes there's just no whey. ROD

This site has nothing on that of the Chartered Accountant Forum. A nest of adders!! ROD PS I'd like to publicly disassociate myself from this feeble pun as it falls way above my usual standard

The West coast is Double Gloucester and the East is Stilton. Do you Americans know nothing about records!!! And I'd tread caerphilly before making any smart-ass replies as Im running out of puns. ROD

Simple to tell. If it's got a small "45" next to "Okeh" logo with a delta # beginning with 9854763027 pressed on styrene with a moulded label, unless it's a paper label from the pressing done on the Tuesday cos the lady who sorted the labels was undergoing a hysterectomy, and when you hold it up to the light you go blind and it's made of cheese.... Then it's deffo a boot. ROD

Im confused. What's the beef with Tim's auction. Is it that he doesn't publicly publish on the site what the 45 went for? Is it that he doesn't inform the non-winners or that you are not kept up to date on current bids if you are participating. As far as I can see as long as there is an end price and you are aware you've been outbid it's as good an auction as any. If you didn't take part even that is of no concern. I understand transparency. I've only took part in John's auction once and I knew I'd won when he sent me an email. As Im a bit of a technophobe I've no idea whether I could see number of bids on one of John's auctions or watch online how it proceeded. All I knew was that I had top bid. Gotta admit I was a bit shocked [but then Im a pretty straight-laced type of person] when I found out it appeared to be common knowledge that Ebay auctions were sometimes manipulated in the seller's favour. I mentioned this a couple of years back when I figured out I'd been outbid by the seller on a 45 I was about to win and which I did when the seller re-listed it a couple of weeks later. He even gave himself feedback on the fictitious sale. ROD