John Reed

Darrell Banks mentions DB when saying what Jerry Butler said to him in the song Only The Strong Survive talkie bit at the beginning. Little Richard mentions "Richard" half way through the talkie bit in I Don't Know What You Got But Its Me

yes please

Oooh, I'd be up for it although my PC is knackered at the moment. How miserable can we get?

Its Sylvia Pittman and its pants, but thats not saying that some will class it as blue eyed soul and start putting a high price on it, like other white soulless versions that have been discussed in the past.

There seems to be three designs on Mine Was Real, which are probably down to different pressing plants. Clintone in block caitals with CT-001 and Pub Moonsong, Cotillion, BMI and time on the right hand side of the label inderneath the calalogue number (CL-20247 SP). Clintone in stylised font with 45-001 and Pub Moonsong, Cotillion, BMI and time on the right hand side of the label inderneath the calalogue number (CL-20247-MO). Clintone in stylised font with CT-001 on the right hand side of the label and the Pub Moonsong, Cotillion, BMI and time on the left hand side of the label (CL-20247-PL). The production credits amd horn and string arrangements are all also in a different order on the three releases.

If you're on the buy side Crazybeat has one for sale for £70 https://www.crazybeat.co.uk/more-info/Beloyd/Get+Into+Your+Life++Demo+copy+of+this+top+Modern+Soul+Gem/20th+Century++Demo/60994//

It's on a Thursday (next ones on the 24th) and in central London (edge of the City/East end). They're great nights, although circumstances have meant I havent been able to go as much as I would like.

I've ordered a couple of records from the states. I recieved a letter from Parceforce informing me that I have to pay VAT of £7.84 and ok I understand that I have to pay that. What's annoyed me is that I've been hit with an £8 Parcelforce Clearance Fee. Is this their charge for writing a letter to you, to say that you've got a VAT charge to pay? I've already paid it, but does anyone know if there's a way of getting round the parcel force charge, which I think is just a p*ss take?

Rob, I'd like to wait until this swap is completed before rousing the crowds for the next one.

Never seen anything wrong with a DJ playing a readilly available record, its quality not price/rarity that should denote inclusion in a set. Always dubious about poppy tunes as I expect to hear soul at a soul night.

What a fantastic idea

At £8.95, quality Soul for less than the price of a pack of fags and a pint of beer. I've ordered mine.

I have been to some very dodgy places...and alas they've come to nothing. I don't know what it was like in the past, but these days you do have to sift through a lot of clothing and jewellery to get to the people selling bric-a-brac, but the Rosebank Market is quite interesting. I think over the years and with the World Cup coming that they're more geared up to sell tourist trinkets and other stuff.

Not that I've seen. Working for a Safa bank, I've had a hunt whenever I've visited and never seen hide not hair of this one. Although there are some nice SA releases out there... I hope someone does get lucky if they do go out there.

It can be picked up quite cheaply. I've found that the pinky/purple issue tougher to get than the W/D even though theres really no price difference.

The Lulu release is rarer and Manship recently sold a Lulu one for £100. It was on his site for quite a while and I asked him if he still had it at Soul Essence this year, but he said he sold it the month earlier

Not really sure if I'm replying with the right answers, but here are a few tunes, with what I think are great or unique baselines. Jean Elias - How long Can I Go On Fooling Myself - BackBeat Jean Plum - Here I Go Again - Hi Clausel - Let Me Love You - Up Right Ty Karin & George Griffin - Keep On Doin' Whatcha' Doin' - Sheridan House Ann Peebles - I Don't Lend My Man - Hi Barbara Brown - Can't Find Happiness - Atco Candi Staton - Evidence - Fame

But this was the B-side of the potential Eurovision entry. The Eurovision entry was "Don't Bother To knock". I can't remember this at the time as I was 11, but did Keep on Walking By get any airplay at time of release?

This reply comes on the back of a long conversation I had with my Son at the weekend after we went to see the film StreetDance UK and his statement to me "I don't really like Northen Soul" I think as we move further into the new millennium interest in the standard view of "Northern Soul" in the UK will wane. Soul music as we generally accept it, is no longer a mainstream musical genre and has passed in a similar way as: Rock and Roll, R&B, Swing, Punk, etc... There are still new music releases of these genres and for soul we have: Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings, Kings Go Forth, etc.., but these are classed as retro and are not part of the music mainstream. Soul music IMO has morphed/evolved into what is discussed in the EMS Thread "New Music" (this is not a plug, by the way), but even that can be left field compared to what is played on Radio1, Capital or Kiss. Getting the above artists played on these stations could spark a renewed interest in old music, look what happened with "Rare Groove" with the likes of the Jackson Sisters and Archie Bell & The Drells, although that revival was only 12-15 years after release, whereas for a 65 release it'll be more like 45 years. Another reason is relevance of this music, to today's young people. Some of the music I play dates from the early 60's and my son has listened to them, but he just can't seem to get connected, although there are a few he likes but maybe the production is so different to what he's used to listening to that it's going to take some time for him to truly appreciate the difference. It's not just a case of listening to music his dad likes, but its music from his granddad's era and I think an appreciation of music with a two generation gap only comes with maturity and an active interest in things out of the norm. You also have to be quite dedicated to go to a club/do when the majority of the patrons are your parents/grandparents age, so it's a bit like the chicken and the egg. So I feel the days of young people falling into the music have gone. I'm not saying that the past is a bad thing as the majority of my collection is over 30 years old, but there seems to be a lot of harking back to the Wigan/Mecca days. I know this was a significant period in a lot of people's lives and it's nice to hear stories and look at memorabilia from those days. But for those too young to have experienced it and especially for me, they're just clubs from the past (albeit a significant part of Northern Soul's history) and the over-reliance in looking back at club venues rather than focussing on the music is a bad thing. There still seems to be a lot of bad blood going back to those clubs which tarnishes the "scene" going forward. As I said, I was too young to go to any of the significant clubs and don't understand what really went on from a politics side and I've been into soul for 27 years, let alone someone just entering the scene in their late teens/early 20's and seeing all that baggage must be quite daunting. Sadly, I think that for the majority of young people, music format is secondary. There is still a big hang up on OVO (even though I love and collect it), with sometimes rarity overriding quality, just because something is rare doesn't necessarily mean it's good. People new to the Northern scene haven't necessarily gone through Manships price guide before attending a do, when I was young I danced to what I liked irrespective of value and surely the same goes for everyone else? I also think that the competence of DJ's is also a factor for young people. When you look at the presence of the big name DJ's on the dance scene, they're sets are slick and professional and they put on "a show". Comparing these "shows" to quite a few collectors cum DJ's sets on the Northern scene with muffled links (I put my hand up to that also, even though I don't DJ), and bad cuing which we generally seem to have put up with it over the years. For young people professionalism/showmanship is a key factor of the entertainment experience. Look at concerts these days (ignoring previous Parliament and EWF spectacles) they are all glitzy with many costume changes, whereas my favourite concert was Curtis Mayfield playing the guitar with 3 other musicians. Young people want more these days and there can be quite a void between what they get from main stream club events compared to Northern do's. I'm not saying that this doesn't happen in the UK, but from reading the reviews and talking to people who have attended events in Europe, attracting younger people seems to be a different matter. A younger crowd could be due to a more varied mix of what is played/accepted and maybe that's where the UK is falling behind. It does seem that I have a very jaded view on life, I don't. I just don't expect nights in the UK to start filling up with younger faces. Though at present there seems to be a glut of soul nights. What I do see (I'm waiting for the fortune teller, digs) is that the scene will contract further as the years go on (effectively when people get too old or die) and in 10-20 years those few young faced people now, will take up the gambit of Northern Soul and lead it into a new future devoid of the hang-up's it currently has.

What about an EP? The Goldwax one Kent brought out for International Record Store day really stood out as something special.

Sebastian, you've hit the nail on the head and I think that's what peoples bugbears are with his records. His songs have been recorded by soul/black artists and as you said, it doesn't mean that his versions are soul, but its seeing them categorised as soul and people telling me its soul that doesn't sit very well with me.

We've seen the frenzy over his rendition of I Believe in Miracles. Well Moerer has really struck gold this time with his version on "A Day In The Blue" which is the other side of the UK Mums release of the Jackson Sisters. If you though Miracles was bad, listen to the sound bite on this...... https://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item51930989b0

Pete, I had issues paying for something on ebay this morning. The seller had trouble updating combined postage costs on the ebay invoice and suggested I change the postage amount via paypal. This generated a "non-normal" activity on paypal account and changed my status to "limited account access". I logged on using the www.paypal.co.uk, I've got it saved as a favourite for ease of use and saves me typing in the wrong address. After reading through thoroughly, it seems that they are reviewing frequent user accounts and this action is also generated if something out of the ordinary happens on the account. I think its cosha and just an additional periodic check. John

Tony, Nope its the Stevie song. It's a "live" version, but don't know of its "really live", if you know what i mean. I remember Norman Jay used to hammer this quite a lot in the 80's. Theres a scan of it at discogs. https://www.discogs.c...release=1136039 I also like Act 1's version of Still Water, but no... before anyone says anything.. It can't compare to the Tops...

Bobby Byrds version of Signed, Sealed & Delivered on Brownstone is a cracking tune.