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you have good taste

what is the difference between M- and NM? recently I saw a NM-, which was funny because it didn't exist in the seller's grade listing in his "about me" page.

It's pretty easy for an unplayed record to not be mint

that makes it more likely to be the carolinas group (e.g. counts on yes, swinging counts, etc.)

the main bootlegs that still blow me away on ebay is those belgian bootlegs that have labels that look real and that the seller starts at $50 each, as if they were real. who makes these and how do they make them? are they one-offs or are a bunch pressed?

I remember when I collected soul LPs finding this more than once, forgetting what it sounded like but noticing the invictus, playing the LP and being like "what is this rock garbage!" and putting it back. Now I may or may not have a different opinion.

I saw that and was wondering about it too. Based on the bidding I assume it was something that was "known" by certain people. I was wondering if it was the carolinas counts or some totally different group (I could probably figure it out but didn't put in the time at least).

I agree with this. I think records should be graded visually and then then the play should be described if it differs from the visual grade. However, though, I'm confused by when people says "plays VG" as the grading guides are not for play and that can mean different things to different people. I do sometimes say "plays NM" but i usually will go into detail about how it plays (e.g. crackle at certain points, background noise, etc.).

I have had the US copy with the flip several times. It is rare though.

i have the pre-delite red coach press of raw hamburgers. just random info that doesn't really help, sorry.

I apologize if I offended anyone, I'm not trying to. I just don't understand what's going on in this thread.

Hi. I'm looking for the Valentinos on clean 60007. I have it as a promo, looking for a stock copy with "oh how I miss you babe" on the flip. PM me with condition, asking price, or if you want to trade what sort of records you're looking for. Thanks in advance.

i think everyone lives in some sort of alternate reality from me, this sounds like an average subway performance to me

on this forum you have to interact later with the person who sold you the record. People are also very hotheaded. Often it's not worth complaining to the seller which will probably blow up then or later. I just write off the seller as a person to be avoided.

one sign of a polished record you usually can see the large scratches that look totally different, like dull and cut in half. i imagine that a lot of the uk people that have polished records didn't do it themselves but instead got the records from certain US dealers and were ignorant themselves as to what a polished record looks like.

I think it books high but there was this dealer strugging to get money on ebay, probably just because it's unknown and not because it's not rare. I didn't bid on it because I assumed the puerto rican thing was some kind of foreign press. I probably should have bid.

Several US dealers who were great before recently started polishing records. One directly admitted it when I confronted him and another (in the same city) denied it and said he would "report me to ebay" for my accusations, but it was the second polished record in a row that I had gotten from him and I had a record of me asking about it the first time so he was obviously lying.

What's sort of more interesting to me is when they don't reuse the backing track but actually recreate it, so it's a different track that sounds almost the same. They usually put their own writing credits on the new version. There is a bobby jones record on kack where the backing sounds just like a ruby andrews backing track but is totally redone. There is that Jay J Jones on V-tone vs. frankie beverly. There is the cheers "i've made up my mind" versus big jim's border crossing on zanzee

it would be interesting if it was the same group. the phila of soul record first came out on LA label phoenix. This record was produced by "ron roker" whoever that is. If it said wally roker I would assume LA and the same group.

also there are the people who just sign up here to sell who don't read the guidelines

I don't think an explicitly written grading scale would make everyone grade the same. People see what they want to see. Although an explicit list would at least determine whether there was an "EX" grade and whether VG is more like Poor.

this brings up another issue actually. play grading alone is totally BS. I have trashed records that play perfectly, that doesn't make the record NM. Although it's fine to note if the record plays differently than you would expect from the visual grade. But I want a visual grade of any record I buy.

I agree with Rod, most sellers here are actually more conservative graders than me (although I don't feel I'm an inaccurate grader). However, the few poor graders not only screw everyone but they charge the same prices for their grade as a conservative grader, so it really makes you feel ripped off..

the originals doing sunshine pop was amusing

these are some of the best things on the CDs. One of my favorite is the Newcomers - Betcha can't guess who