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i have some of the gaps, will try to look into them and post some tonight. one not mentioned here is by the "green grunchions all stars".

Hi. Today on my radio show I interviewed Flint Lloyd, member of the St. Louis soul group the Salvadors. Flint came from a musical family -- his aunts sang in different gospel groups and one of his uncles sang modern harmony with Rex Middleton and the Hi Fis. Flint began singing with his family in church and singing modern harmony at an early age. In the late 50s Flint joined the group the Salvadors, singing with his brother Donald; the group mainly sang modern harmony. The group was soon discovered by St. Louis DJ E Rodney Jones (who also was a DJ in Chicago). Jones became the group's manager and took the group to Chicago to record for Chuck Colbert's Nike label. The group's single "A-E-I-O-U" / "Daddy Said" got some play on Chicago and St. Louis radio. The group stayed together for a few years and soon broke up. Around the same time, Lloyd was also a member of another St. Louis group called the Alpines. The group sang backup on a St Louis record by White singer Little Mojo called "Paula" (Mojo was backed by the local St. Louis band the Caravans, who were credited on the record). The Alpines broke up in the early 60s. The Salvadors also reformed and broke up (with the same lineup) several times. In the late 60s, the Salvadors reformed with the same lineup as the earlier record. E Rodney Jones took them to Chicago to record again. The group recorded "Stick by me baby" / "I wanna dance" for the Wise World label in Chicago; Flint's brother Donald sang lead on both tracks. "Stick by me baby" was written by Jo Armstead. The record did not get any play in Chicago but did get some play in St. Louis. The group broke up for a final time a couple years after "Stick by me baby" was released. Different group members continued to sing in other local groups but none that recorded. However, in the 70s, "Stick by me baby" became a big "Northern Soul" record in England, played by the DJs as a dance record, and is now highly collectible. Two members of the Salvadors are still around today. You can check out my interview with Flint at the bottom of my interviews page at:https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html . Thanks for your interest. thanks, Bob

some us ad uses this song, i think for claritin or some other allergy mediciation

can anyone post audio of the vv and the superbs? I have never seen it but a collector (who also had a photo of the group) assured me he has a copy of the record.

Thanks Matt. The problem is that if you look at popsike, there's clearly many legit variations of the record from different plants, so I'm not sure if all legit presses were done with the same plates as yours. I think it's safe to say that no legit press has 65L though. Thanks.

Just following up to say that the ebay seller gavin6783, Gavin was super honest, helpful, and friendly. Thanks.

I emailed him and said I doubt that it was released

the just brothers looks like a rare lupine original and not a bootleg

no, according to posts on this board (I don't know first hand), it's from delaware and the mello souls are somehow related to silas phipher and the mellow fellows on candi

never knew about an alternate version, thanks.

no, this is the same label as marvin sims, etc.

aren't you a chicago expert? it is chicago, written by chuck colbert if i remember correctly.

that connie mcgill record is so slow you couldn't even slow dance to it... great record though.

I scanned it high res enough that you can blow it up and read the deadwax yourself if you want. It's clearly an "L" in this particular case. Thanks for everyone's help.

Thanks a lot. The only other thing was that it was muffled sounding, I have to listen again (too late to play it now without pissing off my neighbors), maybe I was being too critical given the labels? Anyone else have an opinion? Thanks.

my scanner made the yellow appear darker than it is but even in the scan you can see it's lighter than regular atco labels.

I think Derek did at least one issue since I lived in my current apartment, and I moved here in 2004.

Hi. I bought a 45 on ebay that seems suspect and I'm trying to find out any info on a VINYL boot of the coasters "crazy baby". Manship bootleg guide only makes reference to a styrene boot. Tim Brown guide, however, says this: "This is a tricky one. Certainly one boot is on an issue with Monarch number 95372 and another is on vinyl with a moulded label which isn't quite even around the edges. ..." Does anyone have more info on the VINYL boot of this record? The record I bought on ebay has the following characteristics: 1. label has weird ink smudging / fading or possibly transferred print from another copy which I haven't seen before on atco labels. It should be totally glossy and not transfer ink like this. In this case, the label looks almost like a jamaican labels in the way that the ink has smeared (it's not papery looking like a jamaican label though, it still looks at least sort of glossy). 2. sound is muffled sounding 3. deadwax has hand-written on one side, 65L-9290-1, handwritten on the other side 65L-9291-1. What's strange is that the label says 65C, not 65L on both sides. Nothing else is written or stamped. I know that stuff like this happens on legit records, but the mismatch makes it more suspicious to me. 4. The yellow on the label is not dark enough (looks more lemon colored than the darker yellow of atco labels) and doesn't extend down far enough. The font (or spacing between the letters at least) looks "funny". I looked on popsike and there were enough label variations that it was clear that this record was pressed at different places with different label styles, etc. I couldn't find this particular label design in popsike though. Also, I'm not sure if the label is "not quite even around the edges" or not. Does anyone have any insight into this? Thanks in advance for your help.

The site was called sixtiesdetroit.com but that site is dead. There was a big public fight on soulfuldetroit a few years ago involving Bobby Eli (who was very active) and other members and like half of the regulars left. re: the original question, I look at these sites a lot: https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/ (Dave Rimmer's discography site) https://anorakscorner.homestead.com/ (Dave Flynn's site)

this is his third time listing it. he had dropped the price the second time, now it's back up.

does bobby patterson really sing lead (or at all) on that montclairs record as it says in your auction?

Hi. Today on my radio show I did an all music show. You can listen at https://www.sittinginthepark.com/shows.htm . Playlist follows. Thanks. Larry "Chubby" Reynolds - The bells of my heart - Tri-spin Escos - Whatcha bet - Federal Chuck Jackson - In between tears - Wand Yeomans - Unlucky - Heidi Corsairs - Time waits - Tuff Al Greene and the Soul Mates - Back up train - Hot Line Black Sunshine - A man needs a woman - Kyles Leroy Jones Jr and the Fusion Band - All over baby - no label Wendel Stuart and his Down Beaters - I thank heaven - Elite Surviving Hearts - Sailing my lonely heart - Surviving Hearts Maurice Jackson - Lucky fellow - Candlelite John Edwards - The look on your face - Bell Malibus - Ten times a day - Sure shot Elliot Small - Girls are made for loving - new Sound Larks - Heavenly father - Money Fabulous Flippers - Peace of mind - Lariam Associates Fondells - Love (is what the world needs now) - Pzazz 13th Amendment - Heart to be in love - Slave Ultimates - I can't stand it - Br-roma Rainy Days - Anything I would do for you - Seville (UK) Ellington Sisters - I'm only wanted when I'm needed - RCA Jimmy "Okera" Hightower - Love and life - BCN thanks, Bob

i've gotten the crap out of the grooves before. the grooves will still have a dull look when you're done though. i can clean it for you if you want. if it's styrene, the grooves might be permanently whitened / distorted.

emanons on phila 'o soul / all brothers

Carnival actually had detroit connections via writer George Clinton (I think he at least wrote the Pets record if not others).