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That redman song is classic, one funny reference is in the lords of the underground video for "what I'm after" where they sample "tonight's the night" they actually have redman do a cameo for the sample part (not gonna post the video to further derail the thread).

i just listened and the lyrics you mentioned aren't in the song so that's not it, but i'm sure i know the lyrics you mention so i'll think about it more.

otis leaville - can't stop loving you - brunswick

rod is the james trouble of this thread

that's not the same label

Ultimate 1999 0002 - Ultimate Ovation - Mountain of love / Deep down in my heart

yeah, although most sound gems things are philly, if you look at it it's written by jimmy hudson and the same other writer that wrote the cle-an-thair 45. i figure it must have been his biggest record because I think it charted nationally.

I bought a copy of the stimulators warm summer nights for $10 off them from gemm once, ended up being the color wax boot, I emailed them and they said usually they were more careful to list whether it was an original or repress and apologized, I wrote it off since it was only $10. I recently met the producer of the record and gave it to him so that was kind of nice too that I had a copy to give away, but I didn't get a smartass reply at that time, they did say it was a mistake. at least their prices for cheap records (like the delfonics on philly groove) are truly cheap (like closer to $1) and are worth buying off them then buying them for like $10 apiece from places like craig moorer. I would also be careful and triple-check that a rare record is an original if the price is low.

four tops - still waters miracles - ooh baby

i thought your wife was an around the way girl with extensions in her hair, bamboo earrings, a fendi bag, etc.

this is 5 by the way: https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360177192077#ht_4530wt_1602 Ultimate 2 1005 - Ali & Aliyah - Come to the front / pt. 2 I will post #2 when I get home

I will post 2 and 5 when I get home from work but if someone posts 7 that would be awesome. Thanks.

I have the first number through 1008 but I don't have 1007 and don't know what 1007 is, can anyone tell me what #1007 is on this label? I don't even know why I'm interested in collecting this random label, it's just random. There's nothing past 1008, is there? 1008 is by an artist named "Kush". thanks.

that's miss madeline with the baby miracles (aka the young folk)

Jimmy mainly managed female groups, he had the Carnations with him on the Act IV record, he later had a group called Spice (who recorded on Cle-an-thair and Sound Gems) and then had Love Devotion and Happiness. I don't know if there were common members between the groups.

i interviewed the "tell me whatcha gonna do valiants", they were from Gary, IN and not Boston and did not record on My.

thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it, if you want, if you pm me your email address I can add you to my email list for my radio show. I will post a photo of the baby miracles with miss madeline to this thread when I get home. Thanks.

the jimmy hudson is pretty rare, I think the "what's that" side is better, maybe someone should try playing that side.

the story behind this is in my larry blasingaine interview (www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.com). Miss Madeline was the lead singer of the young folk. The young folk are not the backing group on the "behave yourself" side but they didn't record another song for the flip so they just released the young folk track that was previously released as the b-side. The young folk were previously known as the baby miracles, they only did miracles covers before they signed to mar-v-lus. Their previous lead singer was the lead singer of the Ivories, she had a growth spurt and had to leave the Baby Miracles because she was too large to be in the group so she was replaced by Miss Madeline.

all the records being quoted in this thread were all local hits. all the stock was sold a long time ago and all the copies going on the market now are the ones sill being turned up from people's basements since these are still around.

So I was keeping quiet about all this, and I was pretty pissed already, but I got my record in the mail today and now I'm extremely pissed at Ian's total BS (which I'm sure he'll respond with more smooth talk). I was going to just keep quiet but I'm just posting my experience here, hopefully other people will avoid getting burned. I sent Ian a priced want list of very obscure sweet soul records. They were all sweet soul with no northern interest, priced pretty fairly in my opinion. He came back with 3 of the records, saying that they all were priced too low for the seller and that he had no control over the prices and that the mystery seller all wanted 550 pounds for each of the 3 records. I felt that 550 pounds was way over the top for all 3 records but one of them (the major III -- what girl a girl on TOI) is a very rare Chicago record. I'm in Chicago, met two of the members and want it to record for them (the fact that they don't have it means nothing about the rarity, no Chicago groups own any of their records, even the most common ones), and want it to collect. I had offered $600 which I felt was fair and was way more than it would go for on ebay or any other auction, it's just an obscurity and there's no northern side. I'm not rich but I feel it's a rare chance to get the record, and I can't really afford it right now but I went for it because when am I going to get a chance to get it again. So I go for it. I asked if I at least could do a paypal transfer and have him pay the shipping. I get an email back saying something to the effect of "the way it's going to work is that I'm going to do a bank transfer into Ian's account" which adds an extra $45 in fees for me. Anyways, I figured if the seller's being a hardass about it, fine, there's nothing I can do. When it's revealed that the seller is TIM BROWN, I'm pissed as hell, because THIS RECORD IS PRICED AT 75 POUNDS IN TIM BROWN'S NEW PRICE GUIDE. EVEN IF THAT IS A TOTAL BS PRICE, DID TIM BROWN REALLY COME BACK AND SAY THAT $600 WAS TOO LOW? HERE IS A PIC OF THE PRICE GUIDE: This is all done in secret and who knows what Ian is telling Tim, I usually wouldn't believe a word that Trouble says (e.g. he obviously did not have 2 copies of "james lovejoy" in the back of his hotbox packed up while he was moving that he couldn't post because he was moving), I have no idea why Ian didn't play it a little smoother and just deny that the seller was Tim. AT LEAST I WOULDN'T BE PAYING $1000 TO A SELLER THAT HAD PUBLISHED A PRICE GUIDE (WHICH I HAPPENED TO HAVE BOUGHT DIRECTLY FROM HIM BY THE WAY) WHICH CONTAINED THE SAME RECORD LISTED FOR 75 POUNDS. Hey Ian, how much did you take off the top of that???? No commission, right???? At the LEAST you could have been smoother and run your game a little tighter and denied everything Trouble said AND EVERYONE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED YOU. THEN, in the transaction, I asked several times for 1) the package to be sent signed for and 2) the package to be sent packed in a US-style mailer and not in a flimsy-UK style mailer. I have had AT LEAST 5 packages broken specifically because they were packed in a flimsy UK style mailer. Here are exact quotes from our PMs: Me: "please make sure the record is shipped in a US-style mailer well padded, signed for, to..." Ian: "No probs. Will confirm from this end as soon as money arrives, which I presume will be tomorrow or the day after. And don't worry about the packaging - I send out hundreds of packages every year and never had a breakage yet (I do Disgogs and E-Bay myself)." Me: "Thanks, I have had several records packed in the thin UK-style thin mailers broken which is why I have am asking for the US -style mailers if you got one, even a used-one reversed. Thanks." Ian: "Don't worry Boba, you'd need a sledgehammer to bust one of my packages (he said with justifiable pride LOL)......" Anyways, I get the package today and 1) it is NOT sent signed for and 2) IT IS PACKED IN A FLIMSY STYLE UK MAILER. Here are pics so you can see how it is sent (note the lack of "signed for" on the front) There was one filler pad on each side of the record, I could easily crack the package with much less than a sledgehammer and I have had better packed packages broken with less which is why I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR IT TO BE NOT PACKED NOT IN A FLIMSY UK MAILER. I guess if you read the back and forth above he never specifically says he won't, but that's his smooth-talking I guess, don't trust a word he says. He did say "no probs" specifically in response to my request of it being sent signed for in a US mailer though. There was never a word about condition of the record throughout the transaction, the record was in about VG+ condition and had slight mildew spotting on the label on both sides (I can scan it if people care), you'd think if I were paying $1000 for a record he would mention it? All the stuff about having to pay a premium to get stuff out of Tim Brown's personal collection is also total BS, I'm a casual buyer off of his list, occasionally buying lower priced items, and I'm sure even I have an email I can dig up from a couple years ago saying he's selling his collection and to send a want list (I had sent a short want list back then and I remember buying a copy of first class on thereway for 25 pounds at the time). Usually I wouldn't believe a word Trouble says but everything he said in the thread is 100% true. This had been an extremely bad experience. The worst part is that Ian is totally shaking you down mafioso style for every penny, yet responding with total BS about how he's such a great guy rooting for you, trying to fight for you and get you the best price, do you a favor, etc. Total sleaze. At least he could be straight up with it. I can't believe the total BS that went on. The only positive thing for me is that I paid way less than 2000 pounds for the precisions on hen-mar recently, I didn't know that anyone wanted the crappy northern side. BUYER BEWARE.

my advice is that if you're just starting out, 50 and 100 pounds is WAY to much to be spending on records, there are plenty of good tracks to be buying for $5 and $10, you can get good stuff on ebay or at local record shops, etc. and should exhaust that route before forking out a premium at major dealers sites. especially if you're looking for stuff to play at home in a jukebox and not top items to dj out with. i bought every 50 cent record i could buy before i started spending $1 for a record and only bought every $1 record before I would spend $5 for a record, etc.

Hi. Today on my show my interview cancelled so I did a music show and a tribute in memory of Johnny Carter of the Dells. I played all music and in the last half hour I played my favorite Dells tracks, focusing on, in my opinion, the most underrated period of the Dells career (the 70s). You can listen to the show at the bottom of my shows page at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/shows.htm Playlist follows. Thanks for your interest. Naturals - I'm the one - Smash Sam Bing (w/ Rufus Cannon Combo) - There'll be no next time - Zaraks Celebrities - You didn't tell the truth - Boss Determinations - That's what I like - Important Other Brothers - Little Girl - Amy Bob and Gene - Which love - Modo Johnson Brothers - When I was a boy - Smoke House Billi Welles and the Outer Realm - Date with Destiny - Mercede Southern Production - Whatcha gonna do (when I'm gone) - Chanita Temprees - Love ... can be so wonderful - We produce Kool and Together - His beginning is my end - Magic Machine - Ma ma - Jarrett Insiders - Nighty night - Mercury Brothers by Choice - Oh Darling - Ala Pulse - Baby I miss you - Olde World Dells - Ooh I love you - Cadet Dells - It's all up to you - Cadet Dells - Just as long as we're in love - Cadet Dells - Give your baby a standing ovation - Cadet Dells - The love we had stays on my mind - Cadet Dells and Dramatics - Love is missing from our lives - Cadet thanks, Bob

craig moorer's buy it now price tells you nothing except that any price over that is way over the top

i know someone else who did this on an expensive record that was packed with strapping tape (like that brown tape with rope in it that you need a knife to open) and cracked the record in half.