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I didn't think it was related either, I was responding asking what the "other" record referred to here is. I haven't heard the scream 45 to be able to compare the voices though. Thanks for clarifying.

oh wait, I see you said it was a "black guy". I don't know who it would be then. Maybe Bob Stallworth, but I don't think he had frank wilson.

If you're talking about Bob Miner (fat white guy), he never had Frank Wilson or Patrice Holloway but had pretty much everything else (including the charters). I don't think there was another big motown collector in Chicago.

trashed ones sold for a lot more than that on ebay

I have a lot (especially of groups), anyone who wants to trade original 300dpi scans of 8x10 glossies (not crappy jpgs downloaded off the internet) should pm or email me. i'm interested in getting obscure groups or chicago soul photos.

not being part of the scene, I'm sort of confused given these two copies, how the record got played in the first place. Was it 'discovered' via one of these two copies, via an acetate, etc.? thanks.

I have the GSF skull snaps reissue, the cover is glossy, I think originals have more paperish covers.

i really like the flip of the metros

I think Ron Murphy did the Soul King issue. I don't know if he did any licensing or not. Legal or not, I wouldn't call it a "boot" which is a illegal repress of a released record, as it wasn't released.

my "6 copies test pressed" story comes from Ron Murphy, who posted the story a bunch of times on soulfuldetroit. he seemed to have pretty good knowledge about record pressing (given what he did) and how motown worked in its production process, but who knows the real story now...

sorry I was not clear, I apologize for being a smartass. I meant people who are into soul but not active collectors. Thanks.

yes, I obviously meant that elvis and beatles collectors will want it. that is exactly what I meant. Also, country and western collectors and classical collectors. and stamp collectors, especially stamp collectors.

if anyone is taking side bets on this i'm in on over 25 grand

I'm guessing motown didn't test press 6 copies of the record so that DJs from the UK could import two known copies and play them in their club.

the record has such legendary status and is the ultimate holy grail that people who do not normally bid on soul record in auctions and who are rich enough to not really be affected by the economy will come out. I think it will go higher than that. I also don't think that the signature affects the value on such a holy grail item with only two known copies.

Hi Darryl. What was the name of your high school group? Did they record? It would be awesome if you posted a full bio here, I'm sure people would be interested in reading it. Someone would probably be willing to put up a webpage with your bio, pic, etc. so anyone can find it too (I would put it up if no one else wanted to).

i have the chilites on daran and daren, no real difference. a lot of stuff on that label has the artist spelled wrong (for example, chuck rives instead of chuck rivers), but it's funny that they spelled their own label name wrong.

I agree it's good but people wouldn't be dropping $3300 for it if they didn't need new things to DJ with to prove they have a new record. You can get better records at that price.

craig moorer just sold it on ebay one week ago and it sold for $141.50. I though that was high but he gets a lot of views on his auctions.

I think it's a decent record, but not amazing. It seems to clearly be a symptom of a scene that has run out of things to play, so people jump on any rare leftover thing that is okay.

awesome curtis-mayfield type soul

sharlow45 on here is looking for a copy, you should PM him, I paid $125 for a copy recently but it hasn't come up for sale publicly for a while.

dyson won the last one that was on ebay, it was beat up and went for $150. This is not a common record but I've had or seen it maybe half a dozen times (3-4 times in real life, a few times on ebay). it used to be nothing (i still don't get it, it just sounds like random funky soul to me), even on ebay it went cheap until people started looking for it in the last couple of years. it's always beat up. it is Communication 7303-32 - I can't make it without you / can you feel it the address is the same as on the hot coke 45.

OK, I don't have time to record stuff tonight but I just listened and they are all TOTALLY DIFFERENT TRACKS. The version on the jerry walker LP is a very 60s sounding mod groove. The cherry red track posted here sounds similar but is clearly a different recording, the jerry walker LP sounds sort of like a live version of the song. The generation 45 sounds much more modern. The generation 45 says it's from the turning point LP but I don't know if it's identical since I don't have the LP. And I've never heard the money 45 either. So there are at least 5 releases of "put your weight on it" and at least 3 of them are different recordings. I listened to the eat out more often track mentioned, it has a similar groove but obviously with rudy signifying over the track.

any criminal activity, especially ones that rip off the original artists, is okay legally and morally, you know, because "it's a free market". if your car gets stolen, that's cool too because it's a free country. the bigger target of people's hate, more than these bs dvds and even vinyl bootlegs, should be the unlicensed mass produced and well distributed CD compilations.