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maybe, I would definitely get in contact with Cuba Gooding or some of the pre-Cuba main ingredient members, I think they hold the key. Tony Rounce posted the tracklist of some Main Ingredient reissue here once and it included some versions of Charades songs. Also, if you listen to "Never set me free" on MGM (my favorite Charades song) it sounds exactly like Cuba Gooding.

that is a totally different charades group, I actually have talked to a member of that group, they have an ok funk record called "corruption". No connection to the MGM group.

aren't the charades on MGM, Okeh, Mercury, and Harlem Hitparade all the same new york-area group? and don't they have some sort of main ingredient connection? There is some webpage with Dave Moore saying he was talking to someone getting info about it, maybe he can give more info? Also, I swear on a couple of their tracks it sounds exactly like Donald McPherson singing lead but it could just be coincidence. But I think the main ingredient did cover at least one of their tracks unreleased.

probably another boot also. this is a record that was 'discovered' by different us collectors markets after the time of release and "reproed" on different local labels. for example, it's a steppers cut in chicago.

oh wait, i see he goes into other stuff in the bit, sorry

more specifically, this is a parody of shirley brown 'woman to woman'

I think the ronnie and the parleys version is earlier, there are 3 ronnie and the crayons 45s, one on domain and two on coun-sel, all are by the same LA group. I'm assuming it's the same Ronnie as in Ronnie and the Parleys but I'm not sure. I always meant to sign up on spectropop and ask there about this because they would have more info there, but I never got a chance to.

brad hales was one of the people that sold the pat lewis on ebay

it definitely was on recently, I think butch won a trashed copy recently, it went cheap and wouldn't be in popsike. I think it was a couple of months ago. It was a jamaican seller from florida. I'm sure I've seen it before too.

that's a 78

Hi Ian. I have a question for you. I know almost nothing about your productions so excuse my ignorance. If I google, it says you worked with Herb Rooney of the exciters. I have a record by Black Stash on US Contempo that I think is also Herb Rooney related. Did you have anything to do with that record? Do you know anything about the group -- were they exciters-related? Thanks.

they had the same manager as the Vels, which is why they were on the same label pre-mala

it's cole and the grandures, , u-r-e-s it's an early soul / doowop transitional thing, one side is more doowop and the other is northern-ish, always much better known to doowop collectors. it's not r&b-ish at all if that's what you were trying to find. it's a chicago record.

cole and the grandures was on ebay at least twice. a new york sell-for-you-on-ebay place had it mint and it went for $750. Kevin Cox had a beat up copy recently, I was the high bidder for pretty low but didn't meet the reserve.

crash is a bootleg for the jamaican market. the group was originally called the joy-tones, they were from new york and had doowop records on rama, so the joytones press is definitely before the love potion presses.

the quantrells were from stateway gardens, projects at 35th and state that the lost generation and a ton of other group came from.

i have a beat double of the three jades if you or anyone else here wants to trade

both are real, I think the first is rarer and might be the true first press but both are from the early 60s

i do not think this was bootlegged

there were two good guys albums (and a WNOV, the milwaukee station had a similar album) that you used to see around a lot, they were actually put out by the station and compilations of popular records. Definitely didn't look like the tracklist above! I think the most 'northern' record on them was linda jones hypnotized, they even had lots of jazz like pearl bailey on them.

music show link is: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/1-4-2009.mp3 sorry about that.

they were on t-neck (their own division of buddah) after leaving motown. this came out on t-neck. I have no idea about the UK label that this got licensed to, but they were never signed to epic until like the 80s between the sheets era.

what a joke -- what do any of the tracks have to do with WVON chicago except maybe the cheryl berdell and otis clay? was this some UK LP? where did they get that idea?

i paid more than that on ebay recently, pretty obscure kiddie record

thanks so much for the info. do you are saying that there are definitely 4 copies? Do you know if the other two are 7" acetates or 10" acetates? anyone have any ideas on the other record?